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Info TRUTHS ABOUT THE HIDDEN GENE WOMA THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT OF KEVIN MCCURELY(NERD)

That picture is a Woma x Enchi. Period. As far as the Lesser stuff I think the HG Woma reacts with the Daddy Platty aspect of the Lesser Platinum..... as I understand from Ralph not all Lessers carry the Daddy Platty gene.... So, this is basically is what I think is happening...if the Lesser carries this hidden aspect then I believe it lines up with the HG Woma and makes Soul Suckers. My Lessers from the Soul Sucker are what I am referring to.... the carry "it". You can NOT make a Soul Sucker from a non-HG Woma, PERIOD! As far as comments about 2 alleles on a locus matching up..... Umm YEAH! What??? And we can have many allele locations on that locus too.... EXactly what is happening we can only GUESS! Why do Coral Glows change sex from one generation to another??? (Males) So far I have not a single explanation from people with Degrees in Genetics, and it makes no sense!
This entire thing is LAME..... Joe & Clark you can spin your tail all you want as you try to confuse people and sell your snakes. I find you both amusing at best but your endless lies and twisting belongs in a reality show, your drama is pathetic. IF you confuse people and actually rip people off with your new notion then you are SCUM. You really seem to have a hard time with your eyes...the above claim that a Enchi Woma is clearly a Lemon Pastel Woma..or HG Woma is out there! What an eye....... you both might want to stick each other's thumbs in your eyes since this will ABSOLUTELY help with your future DISCOVERIES. Funny, how you go to great lengths to detail so much of your tired mush into some kind of babbling argument(with yourself) but fail to clearly post my emails where I "confess" my sins. You may want to talk to a few children before you muster your next response, they might be able to help the both of you argue and evidently SPELL!

Kevin
 
Funny Kevin you have it listed on the WOBP as an Enchi Hidden Gene Woma. Everyone just has to go from the list that we gave and go to the WOBP and Ray Charles could see it if he were alive. I can't even believe you are keeping this up? You know go ahead and post what you want and we will pick everything apart like we have been and reply.
 
No....I did not list it as that... Do you actually think that I put all that stuff up there??? I have HG Woma Enchi stuff that is WAY better looking than that!!!!!! I do not have the time or attention to go through every morph up there........ I have made both. I get very overwhelmed when I go there with the endless morphs. But again, I do NOT put all that stuff up there!!! In fact, there are multiple copies of the same snake that we made.

Ask Allan, he works very hard to keep things up there and list stuff but often checks back with me on stuff to make sure he got it right.....

Kevin
 
Joe, where is your Soul Sucker????? The Kamakaze ball????? That is what you are claiming as your ace in the hole????? PROOF? You are trying to prove a wheel is square with that????

K
 
a lesser simply cant carry a hidden gene without being a platinum in phenotype.

when u breed a platinum to a normal u get lessers and het daddys- but these lessers are just that- lessers.

u better talk to ralph if u dont believe me- he has explained it a thousand times in forums and on his page.


a het daddy is simply a inc dom gene like the lesser too. that gene basically has two different homozygous forms- the platty and the lucy- and my guess is that theres a super het daddys aswell- i just dont know how itll look like.



so the soulsucker is just a single two gene combo- hg woma and lesser. if ud breed a platty to an hg woma ud get soulsuckers and hg womas het daddy- breed such a hg woma het daddy to a lesser or platinum or super lesser and ull get a platty version of a soulsucker- it would statistically be a 1 in 8 ratio when u breed a lesser to a hg woma het daddy.


as far bananas and sexes goes- i think we better leave this topic alone...lol:rolleyes:



i mean u can tell us what u want all day long- but why not simply posting some pics about hg woma granite clutches were granites and granite combos are in?

ud close this discussion immediantly leaving all people with the good feeling that they actually have what they paid for.

shouldnt be a big problem i guess...
 
This is the last post. This is starting to turn into spins and lies. Were not here to prove anything to the world but to show you the truth. If you don't like the truth it doesn't concern us. We just came out here to point out the truth. If you want misconstrued snakes more power everybody buy them from Kevin. If you want to listen to more confusing conversation, than just listen to Kevin. Otherwise go to our list and to the WOBP and watch Kevin come up with tons excuses why and he answers nothing about non granite Hidden Gene Womas. Kevin as your email stated to us you said 2 different types of Womas came in from two different sources and they looked the same. The only other Woma is a regular Woma and those snakes don't get you upset but ours do.
 
Joe: Can you please answer my question about the Soulsucker??
Why are you avoiding my question?
This is very important for all of us...
If you have a HG Woma for so long you must have tried to make Soulsuckers?
 
Joe, I originally had two wild caught snakes(imported) that I thought were the same. They looked similar enough for me to think they were the same at the time. As I bred them I learned otherwise and the snakes educated me that there was a difference.

Ok, so you need to see a HG Woma Granite and a HG Woma no Granite? Pics? Ok, I can do that.... same with Pastels that have the Granite Gene. I think that some of my Super Infernos get very busy from the Granite gene gene.

If you were correct why have so few people made Soul Suckers? And, has ANYONE made a Soul Sucker from a non-HG WOma..... other than you?????? (You have not!)

Spinning and lying..... me? Ummmmm...... funny, that you keep saying this stuff but you seem to be twirling out of control. I am being told by a few people that you have done this same kind of thing to other people regarding the Highway/Gravel and White Out....??? Three's a Charm!

Oh, maybe you explain to me the genetics of the Pearl Ball too??? I have lots of questions about it and why?

If I breed a HG Woma to a Normal and make some normal babies and then raise them to adults....breed those back to a HG Woma.... What will I make?
If I breed HG Woma x HG Woma what will I make.
If I breed HG Woma x Champagne what will I make?

Please, tell me....

K
 
Joe, if this is all true about Kevin why not just post the emails where you say he admitted lying? And then everyone will know for sure!
 
ShenandoahReptiles said:
Kevin's a big name in this industry, and I'll be the first person to say that I trust Kevin a lot more than someone that makes threats to go to run to the BOI if a breeder doesn't do as they say.
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David, do you still trust Kevin knowing that he concealed the problems with the bobble head spiders and the genetically kinked spine caramels while he built up his bank account on everyone who bought those defective morphs from him.he kept his mouth clammed shut while raking in the cash.

Kevin can not be trusted.
 
If there is so much evidence against the hg woma where is it? I am still waiting for Joe to put up something of substance other than a list and false claims. I can put up picture after picture showing a pastel woma, well guess what its still a pastel woma not a hg woma. So post the emails and all your other evidence or just back down and say you were wrong. You came here with the claims Joe, your the one that needs to prove what you are saying is true.
 
I see I got confused by all the names...I did not see a pic of a Kamakaze Ball python..
Now I'm very curious??
How did you become a Kamakaze Ball (Soulsucker)?
I like to see it very much...
 
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