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Bad Guy Ty park/ ty lizards FL

it seems that most people here that do not agree with the OP are under the illusion that:

well you only paid $400 so isn't a lizard, any lizard, worth $1000+ more than sufficient to satisfy your prize?!

in general I understand what people mean by that (and I think most of you all understand that too).
however, michelle doesn't have to accept ANYTHING that was not in the contract. sure a $1000 (or $3000 or whatever) lizard would be cool to get for half price but she is under no obligation to settle for that when the terms were outlined very clearly. even if she did flat out refuse in writing, can anyone blame her?? I mean really really blame her??? again she doesn't have to accept some random prize!! TY perhaps assumed (assumed wrong) that she would be happy to make more than she spent. TY didn't realize that michelle takes more pride in the animals she brings in to her collection...as do I and most others as well. maybe if TY would have handled it better and described in detail what lizard he was going to get for her, she might have been at ease with it and accepted it. fact remains that TY was nasty about it and testing her for greed, finding any way he could wiggle out of having to live up to his own terms and be out $3000 cash or the more expensive lizard he would have rather not given up. that is greed on TY's part.

my opinion says TY is making a HUUUUGE mistake by going in front of a jury. Specially once the jury sees the evidence and realizes that TY could have fixed this issue way long ago but chose to strong arm the OP into going broke fighting him in court. Most people on a jury will see right through that and be on michelle's side even more so. If the judge is won over by the OP as well, he will then advice her of punitive damages OR will issue damages on her behalf. punitive damages can really be expensive so TY will be in deep doo doo if that's the case. I have a sneaking suspicion that he is going to get buried in court. he will be upset most likely, display some anger, and given the evidence against him and his very own written terms (which michelle has hundreds of pages of evidence) he will not be able to wiggle out of it. weather he is hit with any additional damages will likely come down to laws/protocols that I am not educated enough to understand and/or know....hence why lawyers exist. but I can say that I am 99% certain he will at a minimum be responsible for the $3000 reserve prize as stated in his terms as well as all attorney and court cost. I would imagine punitive damages to cover lost wages, time, embarrassment, etc etc will factor in as well.
 
How did Ty Park "strong arm" Michelle into "going broke" fighting him in court? Did she not chose that course of action willfully? Was it not her decision to hire an attorney and seek his professional counsel?
 
How did Ty Park "strong arm" Michelle into "going broke" fighting him in court? Did she not chose that course of action willfully? Was it not her decision to hire an attorney and seek his professional counsel?



HE was the one that filed (in my opinion frivolous) action for alleged "defamation" on me for posting here, So yes I had to hire a Lawer in FL.

We wouldn't even be in this mess IF
he had simply answered a few relevant questions and/or when he "allegedly" finally decided to send me the t+ HE could/should have just simply said something like "I've decided that because I didn't produce any of the less expensive tegus this year , I am going to send you the "more expensive" t+ albino that I produced"
but HE chose to not tell me WHY????
Because he "wanted to see what kind of a person I was" and said he felt I was greedy till the end!

So I don't get the prize?!?! Because of how he felt about me?
 
How did Ty Park "strong arm" Michelle into "going broke" fighting him in court? Did she not chose that course of action willfully? Was it not her decision to hire an attorney and seek his professional counsel?

He also told her he was done and she can sue him !!! that he was raffling off HER prize to someone else ... just there and then, if he would have simply told her, it's one of my T+s it would have been over, OR with the 5000$ he made raffling off the same animal twice, could have sent her the 3000$ in his own cited terms. and again be done with it..

good news now is, Ty has secured 2nd place when we google search for Ty park lizards :) so at over 20000s views it's taking it's tole.
 
Michelle,
I re-read the entire thread. He owes you the tegu. I am amazed he did not resolve this quagmire before it went so far.
 
I don't thinks this thread will affect in anyway his Tegu bussines,since he has some of best tegus around,look at Undergound reptiles selling sick animals and doimg other bad stuff and he's always sell all he's nice tegus and for a lot of money.
Ps. I'm not in favor of Ty or the Op,but this is very entertaining thread.
 
I agree it wont affect his business in general. but I can say it will affect it on a small scale. I tend to only buy higher end quality animals. I'm not interested in tegu's myself but if I ever become interested, it will certainly not be purchased from TY. so some damage has been done to his business in that regard. I can only assume others feel the same way I do about that. he will continue to do his but those that may end up with a problem from TY and have read this thread don't have a leg to stand on to complain. they have been warned, in other words.

the people that are "on his side" or agree with TY, deep down know he is wrong here! I'm not asking for a debate about it either. the human mind knows right from wrong and anyone with a human mind knows deep down he is wrong. they will keep that to them selves because it is not them being burned. plus they still need a source to buy these lizards.

he will have something to say when he looses in court. he will blame it on a technicality and people will still shop with him. he could likely come right out and say that he stole the op's money and people would still buy from him. its a sad world we live in when most people think that its ok if their boat rises because someone elses sank!
these are likely the same people who wont stop to assist in a vehicle accident unless their is something in it for themselves. its a mentality and a display of poor humanity.
 
I don't thinks this thread will affect in anyway his Tegu bussines,since he has some of best tegus around...

Best...or most obese?
 

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"A fair prize" but not what the original raffle was for, fair judged by who, you? If you pay for and have the rights to something would you be disturbed and feel cheated if someone arbitrarily changed what you were going to get? If you paid for something then the person did not have that thing and said they would send you something else, would you not ask what they are going to send and if they do not reply would you be satisfied with that? Would you not want to know exactly what you were going to get?
Based on your comments here I guess not, no matter what you buy moving forward you are OK with getting what some one wants to give you not what you bought. Ming that is very cool of you to take anything that would be considered fair by some person you don't know as a replacement to what you were actually supposed to get, you are one righteous dude.

The final prize offered to OP was an albino tegu produced by Ty. Since purple t+ tegus were the only albino tegus produced by Ty, it doesn't take a genius (or does it?) to figure out that is what Ty Park is sending you.

There is no doubt (prove by screen shots of text messages) that Ty said he is going to send OP an albino tegu produced by himself. Never did the raffle state you get to see an picture of the exact animal he is going to send you.

The other two winners got their albino tegus and are very happy with it.

If you know anything about albino tegus, they are a very new thing. Very few people breed albino tegus, maybe 3 or 4 breeders at most? They are not like albino ball pythons or California Kingsnakes.

OP wrote a few post above about winning a BMW and getting an bicycle. That is not the case here. You win a BMW, sadly all the German made BMWs didn't make it to USA, and you are offered a BMW made in Greer, South Carolina. But then you get upset about it, raffle winner offers you an German made BMW that he was saving for his collection.
 
So attached is the actual raffle post that Ty posted so readers can actually read it without turning their heads sideways. A couple of things stick out. 1) Where does it say winner will get Tegu that Ty produced? 2) baby albino tegus.

Now, Ty did post about starting the raffle a day before, but I don't think anybody can say that the posted on March 9th is "official," since it was just tossing the idea out there.

Picture above is from OP's post #24

Picture below is the post that Ty posted about the idea of starting an raffle for albino tegu a day before the official post about raffle.

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Let me try that again.

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So above is the actual raffle post that Ty posted so readers can actually read it without turning their heads sideways, posted on March 10th. A couple of things stick out. 1) Where does it say winner will get Tegu that Ty produced? 2) baby albino tegus.

Now, Ty did post about starting the raffle a day before, but I don't think anybody can say that the posted on March 9th is "official," since it was just tossing the idea out there.

Picture below is the post that Ty posted about the idea of starting an raffle for albino tegu a day before the official post about raffle.

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