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Bad Guy Ty park/ ty lizards FL

Andrew, the documentation I've found differs with most of what you say. Can you provide some sources to your research? You mention personal experience, can you explain what the background is that leads you to believe what your post states? I am in no way a lawyer, but from my minimal business law courses I'm curious if Canada is just that different, or if you are perhaps mistaken. I will happily admit I am no expert, but I'm always open to learning something new!
 
You can have seperate non profits on the side as well as for profit business. Its vey common especially in the upper echelon tax bracket.
 
Allison if you look up mass raffle laws the statute pops right up and it seems pretty clear to me from what I read. There's a post I made way back referencing the refusal, as i can see it interpreted as well.
 
Even if ty was a. In profit. Which I don't believe he is. There are laws that weren't followed
Just a couple
You can't say an amount for the tickets.
You must deliver the prize

Also because it was in mass court and in mass you can't have raffles. This is why they told me that I need to go to FL court. I didn't do anything illegal.
I have not read anywhere that a mass resident can't enter a raffle in another state.


Casey you clearly stated
"It's just NOT COOL to call someone a liar and scamy, if you expect any kind of amicable relationship after that!!!!"


I never called him those names. Whether it was implied or not.

He call me (not "implied")greedy, thankless, uneducated, and a few other names. Is that ok?


When I asked if he produced any albino blues yet on July 31 (the date on the raffle terms when it was supposed to be delivered)
He said not yet soon I hope

Then aug 16 I asked again.
he told me he "only hatched the purples (t+) and I sell those for $5,000"

Then said he would "pick one up from another breeder"
Yes I asked for the breeders info but he wouldn't even give me that!

Then he said "you are not getting the money"

Then he said "I will get you an albino like I promised. It's the same quality"
And after he said "I should have said if I didn't have any albinos to give you I'll give $3,000"

then he said "ok I'll send you one I produced, I was going to keep them all but I'll send you one I produced"

Any person would wonder what is going on with all of the I did , I didn't I did I didn't
I have a headache just writing this!!
But yes at this point I did question it all and said "if I had known this was going to be shady and scammy I probably wouldn't have bought tix for the albino "

His response was if you are going to complain please do so. You will get an albino tegu like I promised. I'll post out concersation on lineFB"

I said I'm so confused

He said " you are welcome to post anything u want on FB and let other people decide. Purple tegu is albino tegu"

BUT HE IS SUING ME NOW FOR POSTING ONFAUNA????? Doesn't make sense when he told me he would and I could post it.

Then I said "ok then give me a purple. U said you only produced the purple albinos not the blue albino"

he said "you will get one like the one in the photo"
HE ALREADY SAID HE DOSNT PRODUCE ANY BLUES!! So one would wonder where it was coming from. No?

Then he said "u are getting nothing FROM ME going forward escort one baby albino tegu that will grow up LIKE THE ONE IN THE RAFFLE PHOTO"
WGERE IS IT COMING FROM??

" albino blue just like the raffle photo"

During this I asked for photos etc. and I got nothing!!

Later he posted that He couldn't even get one from the other breeder



Casey you said
" I could tell Ty was very irritated that you did not show the gratitude he was expecting"

Again nobody owes him "gratitude"
But I messaged John omg omg omg I'm &;$@ing crying omg omg omg

in a Pm to ty when I found out I won I messaged him this
"I want to personally say thank you. You are truest amazing for the donations. And I posted a thank you on his page too.

Isn't that gratitude?

In his Oct fb post he replied to a few people's comment he stated that he was going to send me a purple so I commented I said he never offered me a t+ tegu but I commented and I asked (I believe I tagged him) him are you saying you will send me a t+ purple? I said it 2x and he didn't reply to either comment.

I then pmd him (Oct 13) and asked for clarification because yes I was confused and he replied with
"To late for that. I've already hired a lawyer. If you asked nicely that you needed the money instead of telling me I'm trying to scam you. I would have considered it. After that, I am not willing to give you anymore information for you to twist my words. I did not mention your name on that post. You chose to id yourself. I have plenty of support. Good luck in court.

But He didn't have a lawyer till a few weeks ago

I'm done trying to explain myself.
 
Andrew do you have any info backing up your claim about Ty being a non-profit entity, or is this just another assumption? I find it odd that the topic has never been broached until now with you being the first to assert this in any shape or form.
 
That's why I said I believe he has one, I know allot of business owners who do, usually for tax purposes. I just find it hard to believe that with the raffles and auctions hes run, especially the past iguana fest and some of the people in attendance, that he eould be doing it out of legal channels. Ty has at least 2 companies, and i believe has has a non profit as well as at least another company. You can own businesses and still run non profits, it's a way to circumvent legalities and certain regs. And protects people's backsides as well.
 
DavidBeard said:
Andrew do you have any info backing up your claim about Ty being a non-profit entity, or is this just another assumption? I find it odd that the topic has never been broached until now with you being the first to assert this in any shape or form.
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David, way back in the beginning of the thread I checked and did not find a non profit for Ty, the posts are there somewhere.
Anyone who says different should be able to easily do a search and find it and post it here, as states have searchable records of such organizations.
 
DNAexotics said:
That's why I said I believe he has one, I know allot of business owners who do, usually for tax purposes. I just find it hard to believe that with the raffles and auctions hes run, especially the past iguana fest and some of the people in attendance, that he eould be doing it out of legal channels. Ty has at least 2 companies, and i believe has has a non profit as well as at least another company. You can own businesses and still run non profits, it's a way to circumvent legalities and certain regs. And protects people's backsides as well.
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Your beliefs are not lining up with reality, unfortunately. I have also searched and cannot find any evidence that Ty has a non-profit anything.

If you find info that contradicts this, post it here. Otherwise please leave such speculation out of the conversation.
 
DNAexotics said:
That's why I said I believe he has one, I know allot of business owners who do, usually for tax purposes.
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Wait....I thought Ty's supporters said he does these things out of the goodness of his own heart, not for tax purposes or a tax write-off? Are we backtracking now away from the humanitarian angle to the businessman angle?

I just find it hard to believe that with the raffles and auctions hes run, especially the past iguana fest and some of the people in attendance, that he eould be doing it out of legal channels.
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Again, your "beliefs" have no bearing here when comparing them to the reality of the situation. He failed to deliver Michelle's prize and has acted like a petulant child toward her, so why would anything surprise you?

Ty has at least 2 companies, and i believe has has a non profit as well as at least another company. You can own businesses and still run non profits, it's a way to circumvent legalities and certain regs. And protects people's backsides as well.
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Whoa....."circumvent legalities"? Is that a fancy way of saying "to get around the law"? Because I'm fairly positive that's what you're saying. Why is that a good thing, remind me?
 
DNAexotics said:
Allison if you look up mass raffle laws the statute pops right up and it seems pretty clear to me from what I read. There's a post I made way back referencing the refusal, as i can see it interpreted as well.
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There is an issue with this argument as pointed out much earlier in the thread and that is that the raffle was held in Florida where the laws are different than Mass and an additional argument could be made for it also being under Arizona (where the IRCF is headquartered) so dismissing it under the Mass. laws is premature at best.

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Ed
 
David this is supposed to be an open forum for discussion, I find it odd that with all the speculation that has gone on as to what is or what is not, you are only taking issue with mine since it doesn't align with yours.
 
DNAexotics said:
David this is supposed to be an open forum for discussion, I find it odd that with all the speculation that has gone on as to what is or what is not, you are only taking issue with mine since it doesn't align with yours.
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Discussion is tantamount to you playing in a fairy tale land where your "beliefs" somehow factor into things. Prove what you say or stay silent.
 
Ed I understand what you are saying as I read that, but she is a resident of mass, even with the raffle being out of mass, regs still govern her in her state. Also, didn't not dismiss her case just ststing what I have found and how i interpreted the statute.
 
David your dismissal of my opinion is your issue, and your attitude is indicative of why this discussion moot. Also do t try to tell me what I should or shouldn't post and try to belittle my opinion. Good day
 
DNAexotics said:
Ed I understand what you are saying as I read that, but she is a resident of mass, even with the raffle being out of mass, regs still govern her in her state. Also, didn't not dismiss her case just ststing what I have found and how i interpreted the statute.
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And that is why the case has been filed in Florida.... at her request in the Mass courts dismissed her case without prejudice....

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Ed
 
Ed I understand that, I'm just stating that from the statute it seems the op could not participate. She is still a resident of mass and their laws still govern her being a recipient. I may be wrong but that's I'm reading the statute. The courts will ultimately decide.
 
DNAexotics said:
Ed I understand that, I'm just stating that from the statute it seems the op could not participate. She is still a resident of mass and their laws still govern her being a recipient. I may be wrong but that's I'm reading the statute. The courts will ultimately decide.
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So wouldn't Ty be liable under the laws for Florida? Your selectively pointing out one end here.

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Ed
 
DNAexotics said:
David you seem to think I support one party or the other, no where did I say that at all. Just posted an opinion,
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Stating an opinion is different than saying "Ty Park is a non-profit entity" (or "I believe he is" or "I'm almost positive he is") or whatever other nonsensical standpoint you're giving.....making up statements in not the same as an "opinion"......one is tangible, the other is not.
 
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