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Tylosin (TYLAN) used for reptiles??

esoteric-lizard said:
tylan is microbial specific... in other words it doesnt kill all types of bacteria.

a culture and sensitivity is usually the best thing to do before administering any antibiotics.

really you should go with what is proven to work than worry about cost... there is a reason batryil is a little more expesive. :)

good luck with the vet. :) :)
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My problem was that the Baytril DIDN'T work. That's why we tried the Tylan, with great results. Perhaps it shouldn't be your first option, but it's always nice to know of other feasible options, regardless of price.
 
Tylosin covers a slightly different spectrum of bacteria than baytril. Tylosin is one of the best antibiotics for mycoplasma. Baytril is effective against some strains of mycoplasma but not all. Culture and sensitivity is the best option but mycoplasma often does not grow in culture. I usually get a culture and then begin broad spectrum antibiotics while waiting for results.
Michael Wenninger DVM
 
esoteric-lizard said:
tylan is microbial specific... in other words it doesnt kill all types of bacteria.

a culture and sensitivity is usually the best thing to do before administering any antibiotics.

really you should go with what is proven to work than worry about cost... there is a reason batryil is a little more expesive. :)

good luck with the vet. :) :)
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Well i am going to have to disagree. The vet said that tylan is a broad spectrum antibiotic capable of getting rid of most of the common infections as well as resilent recurring problems. He also said that if you consistently use baytril on an animal over years it will build tolerance to it as well as its offspring. He says baytril is used too much these days due to the suppliers pushing it on them. He has baytril pens,paper, cup holders, magnets, coffee cups, mouse pads and many other things all for advertisement.
He wouldnt come right out and say its ok to treat your own animals with it but he kind of said it in a round about way.
 
leaftail said:
So, you guys inject your own snakes? How does that go?
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Depends on the snake. Some are cooperative and others are like a rodeo.
You have to make sure you are injecting BETWEEN the scales. I like to alternate sides, ie right side for one injection then left side for the next etc.
 
The DVM broke it down on Tylosin. It is useful for Mycoplasma, the bacteria that are wiping out the Desert tortoise.
I have seen plenty of terrible scars from Baytril, all in green tree pythons.
I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I had to save an animals life.
I wouldn't hesitate to use Amikacin either. Better to risk kidney damage than to have a dead animal.

Every antibiotic kills certain bacteria, and bacterial resistance to antibiotics that should work on them depends on genetic mutations or bacterial plasmids with a resistance gene.

I just had, still have a very sick chondro. No culture was possible, so I was given Ceftazidime.
Guess what, Ceftazidime used for a long period of time results in immune mediated hemolysis of red blood cells and decreased bone marrow suppression. Reported in dogs, now I'll report it in snakes too.
My snake was also allergic to piperacillin and had an extreme reaction where he swelled up like a balloon in his face.
The Ceftazidime use with piperacillin use left the snake on deaths door. Severe anemia.
At least the infection is almost gone.
So, antibiotics all have side-effects.
Best to find out exactly what will kill what (thats what the vets do ideally) and TCB. Take care of business.
When dealing with an unknown, strike hard with dual therapy to knock stuff out fast.
The clinic I go to likes Ceftazidime. I did like it. Until it didn't work alone and had a funny side effect someone should have thought about.
 
great post David, I believe in researching everything first!!
 
TYLAN 200

So I have been reading all of these posting and no one can give a ratio. I hope this helps everyone. I have chosen to use tylan 200 because it will reduce the amount of injections by 75%.


1.0cc = 20.-25 lbs or 9,070-11,339 grams
.81cc = 12.5-20 lbs or 5,669-9,070 grams
.5cc = 10.-12.5 lbs or 4,535-5,669 grams
.046cc = 6.25-10 lbs or 2,834-4,535 grams
.25cc = 5.-6.25 lbs or 2,267-2,834 grams
.203cc = 3.13-5 lbs or 1,419-2,267 grams
.125c = 2.5-3.1 3lbs or 1,133-1,419 grams
.06cc = 1.26-2.5 lbs or 571-1,133 grams
.05cc = 1-1.26 lbs or 453-571 grams
.04cc = .63-1 lbs or 285-453 grams
.025cc = .5-.63 lb or 226-285 grams
 
Mike Greathouse said:
Yes, They are for the Tylan50. The injections should be made in the 1st third of the body just under the skin. Don't go deep and give an intramuscular injection.

I have it on good authority from a vet tech who accidentally injected herself with Tylan, that it stings quite a bit. So you can expect a little squirming from the patient.
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I was taught many years ago to give subcutaneous injections by the former vet at the Buffalo Zoo.

Yes-1st third of the body, gently pinch the skin to make a "tent", and inject right into the "space" of the "tent".

It's very easy, and if you don't get all nervous about it, the snake won't feed off your anxiety.
 
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