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Bad Guy United Morphs - Nick Runde

Yes he texted the pics. The pics are definitely of the box I used to ship, and that's definitely the mojave that I shipped him. It's quite obvious that he's trying to scam me. I'm quite certain that he doesn't own blackheads. At this point, I'd just like to recover my animals, as I'm 99.99% certain that they're still alive. I just don't know how I'm going to be able to go about that...

I don't know if emailing him would do anything. Maybe telling him that if he'll just send the snakes back in good condition, I won't press charges or call authorities? Who knows. Scammers/crooks like this don't seem to care about any threats.
 
ClarkT said:
Yes he texted the pics. The pics are definitely of the box I used to ship, and that's definitely the mojave that I shipped him. It's quite obvious that he's trying to scam me. I'm quite certain that he doesn't own blackheads. At this point, I'd just like to recover my animals, as I'm 99.99% certain that they're still alive. I just don't know how I'm going to be able to go about that...

I don't know if emailing him would do anything. Maybe telling him that if he'll just send the snakes back in good condition, I won't press charges or call authorities? Who knows. Scammers/crooks like this don't seem to care about any threats.
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Pleading with someone you feel is a scammer to mend his ways has a very low chance of bearing fruit.
Slamming him with a lot of publicity everywhere for his allegation that he videotaped an act of animal cruelty and asking that charges be brought against the alleged perpetrators of the cruelty may bring results.
 
Lucille said:
Pleading with someone you feel is a scammer to mend his ways has a very low chance of bearing fruit.

Slamming him with a lot of publicity everywhere for his allegation that he videotaped an act of animal cruelty and asking that charges be brought against the alleged perpetrators of the cruelty may bring results.
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I agree. Call the police in his town, give them his address and tell them his neighbors killed "your" pet snakes in a box and you want to press charges.


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For the photo skeptics, while I hope you are right...

Dead snakes move for quite some time. I had a hatchling corn die during pipping (enlarged heart, and other deformities). Despite being dead, with the heart visibly not beating and being able to manipulate the jaws and tongue, the body of the snake would respond to touch for up to 12 hours. It was the creepiest thing I've ever seen.

There was also a show on animal planet (can't remember the name) that had an episode where the animal control folks found a decapitated snake that had been there 6 hours and it still was moving.
 
When I first saw those photos yesterday I thought they looked fake as well, glad others saw it. The snake doesn't look damaged at all, looks like someome put jelly on it, the blood on the bag also looks fake. I could be wrong of course, but it looks like someone is trying to get away with staging fake doas.
 
I get shot for badly worded post.. Hope this is Clear..

CALL animal control, call the local police department.. abuse of any animal is not cool ...but since he "has evidence of it" making a claim of it.. I would go there personally.. what happened at his house does not make your claim on your animals in trade not valid.. as stated before..
However..
Seems there is a lot more than you expected on this one..

there IS a link between early animal abuse and some severe violence in people.. keep this in mind and may prove a more serious situation or consideration on your case.. SHOULD get some attention.. not only ACO but PD attention. this is no longer just I got screwed you but a wider concern..on possible issues mental either his or the "kids" involved..




Sad.. I do find the picture questionable not the color but volume.. also not one mention dear god I have sick kids in my area and taking steps or reporting this VERY TELLING..

traumatic injuries don't bleed that much.. Seen animals run over by a car with less blood.. heck even reptiles attacked and injured by dogs (Do some rehab) that they don't bleed that much.. I HOPE it is fake because about the only way to get that kind of blood is to purpose cut an animal to bleed out..

what that means.. well I hope it is fake, but if not either his, or the "kids" state of mind is in question... sick!
 
I would bet money on the fact that the snake in the picture is alive and well, and probably really confused too.


The snake looks alert, aware, and as if it is about to right itself. There are no injuries on it, it's not limp, it isn't mangled and that "blood" certainly isn't real.... You can tell he is a kid because he actually thinks any of that CRAP is going to work. You have been scammed.... Don't let the little brat get away with it! If he is willing to do all of this to scam you out of your snakes.... Think about how well he WON'T care for the animals properly. Poor snakes :(
 
Man. So sorry about your trade gone bad. I agree with everyone about that mojo still being alive. That straight up looks like jelly to me and that box def doesn't look like it's been beat in enough to kill a snake. This kid def need to be taught a lesson. Need to weed out the scammers and liars before they get too deep into the hobby. My condolences my friend and I hope things get made right for you
 
That little 'run' of blood on the bag is wrong, too. Not from saturation or direct contact...that's from pouring or dripping onto the bag. Look again and you'll see what I mean...a little rivulet separate from the big soaked spot.

I am thinking it was poured on.
 
laterob said:
That little 'run' of blood on the bag is wrong, too. Not from saturation or direct contact...that's from pouring or dripping onto the bag. Look again and you'll see what I mean...a little rivulet separate from the big soaked spot.



I am thinking it was poured on.
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I saw that too. That shouldn't be there.
In addition, if the snake was in the back when that happened, the blood wouldn't be pooled, it'd be all over the bag from its thrashing.

If this had happened to me, I'd call everyone I could think of, including his parent(s).

Wish I was closer, I'd go get your snakes back.


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Don't know if this will prove useful, to you, or not.
However, the following is listed in the white pages:

Francie & James Marin
9195 Diamondhead Dr.
Dexter, IA 50070-7502
515-523-2407
 
I sure appreciate all of your help. I've contacted the Guthrie county sheriff department. I'm not sure it's going to go anywhere with them. They don't seem all that willing to look much into it. I'll keep trying with them.

Dakota did visit this thread today, though, and he did send another email:

"You are a f*&$ing idiot that u'd say that on fauna classifieds and make a whole post about the company ur f*&$ing dumb as s#!%

Sent from my iPhone"

Such an articulate response sure has me shaking in my boots. I did reply:
"Call me all the names you want. Why are you scamming me? Prove that you're not
scamming me, and send me the blackheads. Or, send me back my snakes. It's so
obvious from that picture that the snake is not dead, nor hurt. Send me a pic of
all three dead snakes and I'll believe you. It's now 3 days later and no pics of
them?

You're right, that I'm an idiot for trusting that you'd do this trade without
scamming. My bad, I guess.

And what company are you referring to? United Morphs? PROVE IT! Send my snakes
back! Send me some pics! Send pics of the "neighbors" vandalizing the box. Send
evidence. Answer your phone. Nobody who is trying to be honest and straight
forward would even think of not answering, or not providing real evidence. Hold
the "dead" snakes by their tails all together. Let me see that they hang like
limp noodles -- like snakes do when they're dead, not curled like the photo you
sent me. Don't just show some red colored snake bag, show me the snakes. Duh...
It's really not that difficult. Go on fauna yourself and defend it by posting
evidence.

Really, though, just send me my snakes back, or send me the pair of blackheads.
End of story. It's not rocket science.
-Clark"

I'm coming up short at finding an animal control agency, or pet rescue people that may be willing to help. I'm pretty bummed about this, but it just seems that there's no winning against the bad guy...
 
Glad to know that name and phone number. Maybe it'll help. (Nobody answers..surprise). In the age of caller ID, nobody answers an unknown number from out of state, lol.
 
Does he have a screen name on here?

This will follow him around. It would be a smart move to send you what he owes you or return the snakes you sent him. I am not sure he has the capability to make a smart move, but that would be it.
 
I too worry that he might just kill the snakes. At this point, I don't think he has killed them. I wonder if he planned on just reselling them, or if he already has, or what it is he has in mind.

If this thread keeps him from doing it again, then that's at least one victory against him. If he sends me a pair of blackheads, although it's not likely, I'd request that the thread be taken down.

Again, Thank you all for your help so far.
 
ClarkT said:
I too worry that he might just kill the snakes. At this point, I don't think he has killed them. I wonder if he planned on just reselling them, or if he already has, or what it is he has in mind.

If this thread keeps him from doing it again, then that's at least one victory against him. If he sends me a pair of blackheads, although it's not likely, I'd request that the thread be taken down.

Again, Thank you all for your help so far.
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This thread will never be removed. Good thing too, it is a permanent record of both you and Runde. How could you be so willing to turn your back on the community that is trying to help you, and be willing to get the thread removed (ain't gonna happen) if you get what you want?
 
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