Info US GLOBAL EXOTICS SPCA RAID

[Lynn]

Speaking of court, third day of court and no decision yet.

Makes you go hmmmmmmm....

yup and now the animals are dieing in their care.. Roughly 1600 died since they raided U S Globle .. Makes you wonder if they were better off there...

 

[WebSlave]

Rich like I said you are so very full of yourself...when someone critizies you do you always attack a person character and business??...LOL I guess thats why the BOI was started and why it is now dead.. or in your own words..has "failed"
The masses are quite sick of you and this constant crap here, and you can see it from the lack of any real support this site has..most of your friends have deserted you...even seen some pretty funny threads on here about them stabbing you in the back in worst ways possible... wow you've really been a success and made something of yourself...LOL made yourself into the Jerry Springer of the trade...
The reason why people usually do stuff like that is because of fear and loathing..think about it!!
FYI
My business ExtremeHogs is doing very well and is growing at a rate of 40-50% a year..Was in reptiles magazine in Nov and been on Reptile Radio 2x...how about you 2? and all this despite my poor upbringing..I am 100% self made no breaks no help..
Brian I havn't seen my mom since I was 18 and have no clue if she is live or dead.. So please keep her out of your mouth. Since you obviously have something against poor people I like to bring up many well known breeders Like the Loves started out in a mobile home.. I guess there trailer trash in your eyes as well..
But did you know I own a 120k house in orange texas that was willed to me recently, My dad came down with cancer and lost his job..so he lives there now...could sell it and buy a really nice place..but I am not that way. I am only 32 and have a lot of opportunities left. Another point my collection of hogs is close to the 175k mark quite a stash of loot if you ask me..then there's our 20k in coral..2 cars + 1 67 toronado muscle car restoration project(only 21,000built), land in east tx..quite a bit in the bank..etc.. so don't be so quick to judge someone.
Rich you said you don't investigate your customers...so why the hell the BOI Rich..that is one very bad lie bro.. I have seen threads myself where you have checked up on others..So why not Global??...ONE WORD MONEY.
I also like the attack on my character and medical diagnosis mixed with "were praying for you" what a load and please don't use a Faith in this manner unless you really mean it...
Also I was never in Daytona..I sold out most of my stuff before then. So stop making things up...reason I know about Daytona is because a former close friend of yours called me up blasting you for selling below wholesale at the show , lots of families that were hit hard by the recession were counting on selling there stuff and had a hard time competing with you...wow...weren't you mister integrity at one point..what happened, didn't you even think about your fellow man? Again here I am standing up for people I don't even know who are to intimidated to come on here and say something to you. I am proud to be that person Rich. I do what I think is right and can care less what others think of me for it.
And Rich.. attacking me personally like that ..man must of hit a nerve.. but keep in mind I am not the one who's business is failing..I am not the one who is giving up because the BOI has caused so much "negativity" in your life...your own words Jerry.
In the end if your selling mass quantities of animals to someone..please check up on them and make sure they are taking proper care of them. Or just get a import/export permit and do the business yourself if you have doubts. Time for us to get with the program before the program cancels us out..
Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com check it out!!!

Let's see, Justin. Yeah, I COULD have sold all my snakes at a premium price, but no, instead I decided to just lower my prices anyway. And instead of selling them all to willing buyers at Expo just throwing their money at me at list prices, no, instead I held back half of them and sold them to Mark Bell at wholesale instead. Is that the way you envisioned it worked? Again...

So someone went whining to YOU because they didn't do well at Expo and blamed it all on me. Gee, that REALLY breaks my heart. Wah, wah wah... If my prices were so dirt cheap, why didn't they just buy me out and then just raise those prices a couple of bucks and clean up? Actually, why didn't ANYBODY do that if those prices were so low? Usually at shows other vendors would come to my tables just to check out my prices so they could undercut them. They would even tell me flat out they were doing that, claiming that they couldn't compete against my reputation so only have PRICE to compete with. So yeah, it probably did come to a shock when suddenly they had NOTHING to use for a competitive strategy. Quite honestly, I really couldn't care less if they had an issue with the fact that this year it was pretty darn difficult for them to do that. So their livelihoods should be more important to me then my own is? In other words, I should hold my prices high enough just long enough for THEM to sell out by undercutting my prices? Sorry, bub, but that's just what competition is all about. But I'm sure that's the way you sell your animals, now isn't it? Hold your prices high so all of your competitors can sell out first, just because you're such a great guy and all...

And btw, Mark is tickled pink with all the animals he bought from me this year. Matter of fact his guys working for him were so impressed with the stuff he got that they talked him into keeping much of it for his own breeding stock. And yes, I believe Mark Bell does happen to know how to take care of "mass quantities" of corn snakes.....

As for US Global Exotics, I'm comfortable with the arrangement I had selling to them. Customers from overseas would order my snakes through Jasen since I didn't export myself, and he would make a little bit on the transaction. So everyone was happy with those kinds of deals. And many times customers would contact me direct and I would point them to Jasen to do the exporting to them. Worked fine for everyone. I'm sorry my dealings were fine with Jasen and I don't have that personal burr up my butt about him as you obviously do.

And as for attacking your character and business, well I think your posting on this thread pretty much shows how well that shoe fits you, now doesn't it? I guess this dragging me into this post about Global and your attacks on me kind of boils down to one simple question to you, Justin: Get jealous much?

 

[WebSlave]

yup and now the animals are dieing in their care.. Roughly 1600 died since they raided U S Globle .. Makes you wonder if they were better off there...

Yeah, I watched the videos and noted that everyone was wearing jackets during the confiscations. Were those vehicles used for transport heated for the tropical animals? So who watchdogs the SPCA if they engage in activities cruel to the animals in THEIR care?

 

[lanceheads]

Let's see, Justin. Yeah, I COULD have sold all my snakes at a premium price, but no, instead I decided to just lower my prices anyway. And instead of selling them all to willing buyers at Expo just throwing their money at me at list prices, no, instead I held back half of them and sold them to Mark Bell at wholesale instead. Is that the way you envisioned it worked? Again...

So someone went whining to YOU because they didn't do well at Expo and blamed it all on me. Gee, that REALLY breaks my heart. Wah, wah wah... If my prices were so dirt cheap, why didn't they just buy me out and then just raise those prices a couple of bucks and clean up? Actually, why didn't ANYBODY do that if those prices were so low? Usually at shows other vendors would come to my tables just to check out my prices so they could undercut them. They would even tell me flat out they were doing that, claiming that they couldn't compete against my reputation so only have PRICE to compete with. So yeah, it probably did come to a shock when suddenly they had NOTHING to use for a competitive strategy. Quite honestly, I really couldn't care less if they had an issue with the fact that this year it was pretty darn difficult for them to do that. So their livelihoods should be more important to me then my own is? In other words, I should hold my prices high enough just long enough for THEM to sell out by undercutting my prices? Sorry, bub, but that's just what competition is all about. But I'm sure that's the way you sell your animals, now isn't it? Hold your prices high so all of your competitors can sell out first, just because you're such a great guy and all...

And btw, Mark is tickled pink with all the animals he bought from me this year. Matter of fact his guys working for him were so impressed with the stuff he got that they talked him into keeping much of it for his own breeding stock. And yes, I believe Mark Bell does happen to know how to take care of "mass quantities" of corn snakes.....

As for US Global Exotics, I'm comfortable with the arrangement I had selling to them. Customers from overseas would order my snakes through Jasen since I didn't export myself, and he would make a little bit on the transaction. So everyone was happy with those kinds of deals. And many times customers would contact me direct and I would point them to Jasen to do the exporting to them. Worked fine for everyone. I'm sorry my dealings were fine with Jasen and I don't have that personal burr up my butt about him as you obviously do.

And as for attacking your character and business, well I think your posting on this thread pretty much shows how well that shoe fits you, now doesn't it? I guess this dragging me into this post about Global and your attacks on me kind of boils down to one simple question to you, Justin: Get jealous much?

OUCH!

 

[JG1153]

Well just a few more days before the BOI is probably shut down and this important resource for our community is no longer available. People should really start getting their priorities straight and pony up the measly $25 (which will only seem even more measly once you get scammed) or risk losing this very important resource. I’m sure there’s lots of scammers and shady folks in our community watching and waiting for this to happen so they can more easily prey on us all so ACT NOW OR DON'T WHINE LATER.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139742

 

[lcchavez]

So who watchdogs the SPCA if they engage in activities cruel to the animals in THEIR care?

I was thinking the same thing!

Louie Chavez

 

[Southern Wolf]

One question.

I can understand the going off on Global..... but this side rant on Rich is kinda off topic isnt it?

How bout starting another thread for your beef with Rich.... so the Global stuff doesnt get lost in the mix.

 

[Archie Bottoms]

Well will they raid those who lost the 1600,no it will be blamed on jason.and the beat goes on.

 

[Matt K]

I have found threads all over the web that look like this:

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/out...exotic-animals-seized-at-arlington-wa/#c64114


....just a little side note.....

Personally I was in that warehouse several months back and it was spotlessly clean with what I though were a minimal number of overcrowded conditions, and not sure I saw anything dead anywhere. At the time there were at least 8 or 9 people at work there feeding, watering, cleaning, and one guy packing an order. But that was my one and only experience with the place....

 

[lcchavez]

I have found threads all over the web that look like this:

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/out...exotic-animals-seized-at-arlington-wa/#c64114


....just a little side note.....

Personally I was in that warehouse several months back and it was spotlessly clean with what I though were a minimal number of overcrowded conditions, and not sure I saw anything dead anywhere. At the time there were at least 8 or 9 people at work there feeding, watering, cleaning, and one guy packing an order. But that was my one and only experience with the place....

Interesting to see non-reptile people's reactions. Just goes to show we need to be united!

Louie Chavez

 

[ForkedTung]

A few more links:

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1834581.html

http://www.star-telegram.com/804/story/1845785.html

 

[TripleMoonsExotic]

You know, reading these articles...I see a lot of stress being put on no food in with the reptiles, amphibians and spiders. Has anyone pointed out that you're not supposed to leave food in with these type of animals? Or am I just expecting too much common sense?

 

[deborahbroadus]

You know, reading these articles...I see a lot of stress being put on no food in with the reptiles, amphibians and spiders. Has anyone pointed out that you're not supposed to leave food in with these type of animals? Or am I just expecting too much common sense?

I noticed the same thing. Also a statement that some animals weren't fed for a "week;" some animals eat weekly...sigh..

 

[AF Exotics]

Also,how does one informant know all the husbandry activities of 20k + animals .I wish I could do that .I can manage a couple hundred,and thats more than I like,thats why I'm down to a couple .Must be a super agent .

 

[Mike Schultz]

So the did the 200+ iguanas in the bad shipment count towards the 2% mortality rate?

 

[Manny]

Has anyone heard any news about Jasen and US Global?

 

[Tim Cole]

Back in court again today.

 

[WebSlave]

I wonder how many of those animals that were confiscation died during this time, that may have lived had they been shipped out to their final destinations to get proper care?

 

[Archie Bottoms]

And how many more will die.

 

[Manny]

I agree with Ritch. I'm pretty sure that a lot of these animals will die because of the ignorant people caring for them. They will probably try to pin these deaths on Jasen as well. I hope that US Global gets aquitted and then countersuits to teach these idiots a lesson!