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USDA and Reptiles:

I don't see that happening anytime soon. They have been looking to add birds to AWA for at least 15 years and have got no where with it. Fish are even higher on the list thanks to aquaculture. Agreed, though. Dealing with USDA liscensing would kill the herp industry.
 
Birds bred specifically for research are exempt from the USDA Animal Welfare Act; however, all other birds used ARE regulated by the AWA. The only exemptions to the AWA are mice of the genus Mus, rats of the genus Rattus, livestock used for agricultural research, and birds bred exclusively for research, all other birds are regulated. In addition to the list are non-warmblooded animals and invertebrates.

That came pretty much directly out of my notes from my laboratory animal class that I had to take to get my veterinary technician degree. That class covered, heavily, on state bodies, regulatory agencies, and their requirements/regulations.

I do agree with you, though, I do not see reptiles being added to the AWA list anytime soon based solely on the fact that most people do not care about them. They are largely considered emotionless and generate more fear than any other animal on the planet, which is unfortunate.

I hate reading these articles and these obscure cases that force me to question the agencies I am supposed to support, being that I am in an animal care field. I was taught in school to trust these agencies and that they are for the greater good. I know that animal conditions would be worse off without APHIS and the USDA but what they are doing to those people is wrong. But It sounded like to me that the rabbit farm would have been fine if they were USDA certified. Shrug. Doesn't make it right.

As far as, "killing our industry," it would require us to become USDA certified, possibly, but it wouldn't kill those who are breeders. It'll mandate cage space, ventilation, heat, humidity, and probably a list of other things but you should be practicing those anyhow. If it does happen, it will make things more difficult and require us to jump through hoops but it's really not THAT bad. All of the animals I worked with at school were regulated. I had to deal with the inspectors being there. They can be bastards but their requirements are not unrealistic.
 
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you. The USDA inspector went through the zoo where I work last week and said that birds were still exempt from AWA, as we offered to let her into avian facilities. I suppose I ought to be more specific when I say kill our industry--I mean that I imagine that many folks would get out rather than put up with USDA inspections and regulations; thereby drastically reducing our breeder base and clientelle for specimens. The requirements are not that unreasonable but many people are bullish like that and would rather not deal with it.
 
This is taken directly from the APHIS website: "Animal means any live or dead dog, cat, nonhuman primate, guinea pig,
hamster, rabbit, or any other warmblooded animal, which is being used, or is
intended for use for research, teaching, testing, experimentation, or exhibition
purposes, or as a pet. This term excludes birds, rats of the genus Rattus, and
mice of the genus Mus, bred for use in research;
"

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_welfare/downloads/awr/awr.pdf

It does not directly say birds are regulated but there is absolutely an implication there because it says that the only bird that is exempt from the AWA are those used and bred exclusively for research.
 
It may not directly address, "birds" but what does matter is that instead of listing individual species, the AWA documentation uses a blanketed term by saying, "warmblooded animals." Birds are warmblooded and therefore are regulated by the AWA unless bred exclusively for research.
 
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