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do each of the variations that i often hear referenced, like granite, blushing (btw what is the actual definition of blushing b/c i can't seem to get a good hold on it from pics), clear belly, jungle, partial stripe, rings, blackback, etc....correspond to producing different traits or morphs when bred? i know about the het pied marker and what its supposed to be, are these other traits believed to have similar implications or are they just oddities, so they may be more likely to produce further odditites? or are they jut different traits that people enjoy in and of themselves.... i'm really curious about the significance of these traits and any opinion or input would really be appreciated. thanks. ed
 
blackula19 said:
do each of the variations that i often hear referenced, like granite, blushing (btw what is the actual definition of blushing b/c i can't seem to get a good hold on it from pics), clear belly, jungle, partial stripe, rings, blackback, etc....correspond to producing different traits or morphs when bred? i know about the het pied marker and what its supposed to be, are these other traits believed to have similar implications or are they just oddities, so they may be more likely to produce further odditites? or are they jut different traits that people enjoy in and of themselves.... i'm really curious about the significance of these traits and any opinion or input would really be appreciated. thanks. ed
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Well, those are the $1000 questions. Most breeders look for different traits to try and prove out new and interesting morphs. But they also could very well just be a odditiy and not be genetic. Sometimes people prefer the look of a black back and try to find similar specimens to breed to continue these lines. I know there is a site that describes traits found in morph breeding, I will try to find it and post it for you.
 
thanks. that site' really interesting, is there anything else like it on the net, b/c i can't find a thing except for the odd pied marker mention in a forum or something....what exactly is blushing and does it have genetic implications or is it an end in and of itself to some people.....i have only seen pics of it and never really seen a live specimen, so is it an physical act like in humans or does it refer to a pattern variation, b/c i just see remark like "check out that blushing" and i don't really know where to look....also is there anything to that kind of flamish pattern some have near their belly? even suspisions or theories would be interesting to read (so long a they're presented as such)
 
okay, thanks....so it's that pale brown part in the center, right? does it mean anything or is it just a color variant? also can it occur in other colors like can albinos have blushing? is it just a light part in a patch of color or does it refer to this specific coloring?
 
The blushing occurs in the black along the back of ball pythons and sometimes continues down the sides. It referes to the lighter color where the black seems to be "brushed" away.
 
just a note, blushing on a snake is a permenant feature, unlike chameleons and humans, snakes don't change the color of their skin unless they are shedding, and the color comes from the loose skin rather than any physiological response to their environment.
but yeah , albinos can have blushing too as long as their is a darker color surrounding the lighter spots
 
darkbloodwyvern said:
just a note, blushing on a snake is a permenant feature, unlike chameleons and humans, snakes don't change the color of their skin unless they are shedding, and the color comes from the loose skin rather than any physiological response to their environment.
but yeah , albinos can have blushing too as long as their is a darker color surrounding the lighter spots
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But very often a snake's colors will change from the time they are a hatchling to when they become adults. Some are more subtle changes than others, I have a nice little Ball whose blushing just gets brighter and lighter as she grows, but some are quite drastic....look at the GTP, which can hatch in shades of red, yellow, or brown, and mature to a beautiful green snake.

They don't, however, blush from embarassment. ;)
 
yes :D

Cat_72 said:
But very often a snake's colors will change from the time they are a hatchling to when they become adults. Some are more subtle changes than others, I have a nice little Ball whose blushing just gets brighter and lighter as she grows, but some are quite drastic....look at the GTP, which can hatch in shades of red, yellow, or brown, and mature to a beautiful green snake.

They don't, however, blush from embarassment. ;)
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yes, that was exactly what i was trying to say, heh...
Lots of reptiles will change colors with aging, but most if not all snakes do not actually change color the way a chameleon or bearded dragon can. In Balls, a common occurance is for young snakes to start out very yellow, then the yellow turns to a brown as and adult.
Chameleons can express their current state with coloration, the best we can get from a snake's skin is whether it looks healthy or not or shedding right, and that is not the only thing you want to use to determine your animal's health.
 
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