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Virginia state law issues

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I've been trying to find current info on herp regs in Virginia.

Specifically interested in regulations pertaining to Eastern Box turtles.

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Craig Baker
 
Virginia Captive Bred Native Reptiles

Sorry but I couldn't find any information with the links. anyone know what the regulations on captive bred native reptiles in Virginia?

thanks,
john campbell
 
I too am trying to find out info. I want to breed corn snakes and the only thing I can find is about WC not CB. And something about housing no more than 5 without a permit and not purchasing anything longer than 16". And the only permits I can find are for petstores.
 
Well, here's my experience in Fairfax County, for whatever it's worth. ;) At the time of an electrical house fire that gutted our home, I had over 40 assorted snakes. There were many corns, kings and rats (some breeding and/or gravid), ball pythons, GTPs, etc. I also had chameleons, beardies, a savannah monitor, and several frog species. FC animal control was called to the scene by the firefighters because of all the animals. The only reptile they seized was the monitor. The AC officer said these were illegal to possess in Fairfax County BUT it turned out later he was wrong. Savannahs are not in actuality illegal here (or were not at the time) but the statute apparently confuses even the AC officers. As far as the snakes, including several "native" species (all of them CB): AC had no problem whatsoever with me having these. I believe the laws pertain to the capture of wild indigenous species much more than to purchase of CB animals. And my understanding of that is that you can legally capture and keep a non-endangered, harmless species, but you can't sell it nor purchase a captured one from someone else. With particular respect to box turtles, people find and keep them all the time, and while I'm pretty sure this is still legal to do, from an ethical standpoint, why take them from the wild when their population is dwindling? But DO make it your business to read and understand the regulations for yourself; I learned the hard way that AC officers can't be relied upon to always know.
 
Here is the link for an APPLICATION TO POSSESS, PROPAGATE, BUY AND SELL
CERTAIN WILDLIFE IN VIRGINIA.
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/forms/PERM/PERM-016.pdf

The only reptiles listed are Eastern Kingsnake (L. g. getula) , Mole Kingsnake (L. c. rhombomaculata), and the Corn Snake (Elaphe guttata guttata) .
The only statewide reptile regulations concern natives, brown tree snakes, and crocodilians. Some localities do have other regulations. As mentioned above, the game and inland fisheries website is the real source for information on the state level, that's www.dgif.virginia.gov
I have contacted the department numerous times about a local pet store that used to violate these laws regularly. Have also contacted them with questions, both by phone and email, about keeping native species. At all times they were friendly and informative.
 
I meant to put some qualifiers in there. The statewide regulations for non native reptiles that I know of right off the bat, and that I saw when glancing over the DGIF site, are about the brown tree snakes and crocodilians.
If you're in doubt always double check the actual regulations. Don't just go by what "some guy at a reptile show" tells you. And, especially, what "some guy posted on the internet" is never gospel !

Andy
 
4VAC15-360-10. Taking aquatic invertebrates, amphibians, reptiles, and nongame fish for private use.

A. Possession limits. Except as otherwise provided for in § 29.1-418 of the Code of Virginia, 4VAC15-20-130, subdivision 8 of 4VAC15-320-40 and the sections of this chapter, it shall be lawful to capture and possess live for private use and not for sale no more than five individuals of any single native or naturalized (as defined in 4VAC15-20-50) species of amphibian and reptile and 20 individuals of any single native or naturalized (as defined in 4VAC15-20-50) species of aquatic invertebrate and nongame fish unless specifically listed below:

4. The daily limit for bullfrogs shall be 15 and for snapping turtles shall be 5. Bullfrogs and snapping turtles may not be taken from the banks or waters of designated stocked trout waters.

5. The following species may not be taken in any number for private use: candy darter, eastern hellbender, diamondback terrapin, and spotted turtle.

6. Native amphibians and reptiles, as defined in 4VAC15-20-50, that are captured within the Commonwealth and possessed live for private use and not for sale may be liberated under the following conditions:

a. Period of captivity does not exceed 30 days;

b. Animals must be liberated at the site of capture;

c. Animals must have been housed separately from other wild-caught and domestic animals; and

d. Animals that demonstrate symptoms of disease or illness or that have sustained injury during their captivity may not be released.

The DGIF is now issuing permits to licensed pet stores and captive breeders for them to sell three species of captive-bred snakes (4 VAC 15-360-50): eastern kingsnake, mole kingsnake, and corn snake. No other snakes native to Virginia can be bought or sold in Virginia, and there are size limits as to what can be sold.

If the native snakes allowed for sale by permit were produced in captivity they may be sold at larger than 12"-16".

Check with your county as county ordinances are changing and becoming more stringent and may restrict what you can do more than the state does.
 
We got our permit from the VDGIF for our corn snakes last fall. I checked with the US Dept of Ag also but their permits are for pet stores and larger companies that actually have a separate sales area and require an inpection as well as a vet statement and regular vet visits and inspections so we didn't get one from them.
 
Don't Tread on Me

Virginians need to be aware of this bill that has been introduced for the 2012 year. If passed, it will ban ALL boas and many pythons as well as a bunch of hots in our state.
http://lis.virginia.gov/121/ful/SB477.HTM

As reptile owners, breeders and business owners that support and make a living directly, or indirectly from reptiles in general, and these snakes in particular; we would be well served to fight this in unity.

If you think that just because your reptile of choice is not currently on the list, you need not worry, you are wrong. Based on what has happened in other states, the list will grow and be amended year after year until there is nothing left.

Please make your opinion heard in Richmond, thank you.

Michael Billewicz
 
Here's the contact info for the delegates that you should contact. Let them know that you don't support this exotics ban. Remember to be polite and, if emailing or writing, use spell check etc.

Delegate Christopher K Peace (patron who introduced HB 1242) General Assembly Building P.O. Box 406 Richmond, Virginia 23218 Phone: (804) 698-1097 Fax: (804) 698-6797 Email: [email protected] Room Number: 527

Senator L. Louise Lucas (patron who introduced SB 477) Senate of Virginia P.O. Box 396 Richmond, VA 23218 Email: [email protected] Phone: (804) 698-7518 Fax: (804) 698-7651 Room No: 426
 
From USARK's Facebook Page:

"VA HB1242 Hits Legislative Deadline in Agriculture Sub-Committee. May be held over to 2013, but NOT GOING ANYWHERE in 2012! Kudos to all those in VA who have worked against it!! Today USARK CEO Andrew Wyatt learned from contacts in the VA General Assembly that Delegate Peace will pull HB1242 and possibly hold it over until 2013. This was confirmed by two separate sources.

SB477 is still alive, but will have a more difficult path to follow w/o it's House counterpart. A group of citizens and USARK members opposed to the bill will lobby door to door on Thursday February 2nd. If you would like to join this group email [email protected]. There Is Strength In Numbers... Protect Your Rights!"

Let's hope this is accurate!
 
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