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Vision CB 70 Racks - Any good?

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Does anyone have these? Do they hold humidity? Are they sturdy? If you have 1 already, would you buy another or go with a different vendor?
Let me know whatever you can about these racks.
Thanks a bunch.
 
I thought about those but man. They are double the price. I have about $3K worth of animals coming within the next few weeks and money is tight.
I only have about $1000 to spend on racks and would like to get the "best bang for the buck" while still making sure I have enough shelves.
 
I commented on the thread that Dennis linked to but I would like to clarify my comments further here since I've had a few more months using the rack.
I feel my previous statements weren't adequate and I would now say the rack I have from Vision is the most worthless piece of crap I've ever had the misfortune to drag into my house.
I slide a couple of the tubs out on a daily basis, and every morning when I check on those snakes I loathe that rack a little more. I have even fantasized about taking one of the plastic levels back with me to Daytona and using it to beat the fellow who sold it to me senseless.

This is my opinion of the rack, your mileage may vary.
 
Clay,
I think you must've gotten a bum prototype.
I still like mine alot and plan on getting one or two more this year.
It is very sturdy for the weight and have had to move mine twice(as in different apartments) since I got it. It was a whole lot easier than moving my other racks.
With the wheels locked I have no issues with the lightness of the rack when sliding tubs in or out.
As I keep Rosies, I also have no need to maintain humidity & I drill extra holes to make sure it stays low.
-JC
 
Looks like I'll be ordering the Vision CB 70 rack.

Clay,
It appears they have made a lot of changes since the prototype. They now include double the heat rope, the tubs don't get caught, the casters lock, and they are using steel poles for the supports.

I made an inquiry on KS about the new ones and it seems that everyone is pleased with the new revamped racks.

I'll have to give a review after it arrives.
 
SPJ said:
Looks like I'll be ordering the Vision CB 70 rack.

Clay,
It appears they have made a lot of changes since the prototype. They now include double the heat rope, the tubs don't get caught, the casters lock, and they are using steel poles for the supports.

I made an inquiry on KS about the new ones and it seems that everyone is pleased with the new revamped racks.

I'll have to give a review after it arrives.

Steve,

You get what you pay for. I have been told by people who have seen them in person that they are total crap.

Jamie
 
Jamie,
I see your point about getting what you pay for but in this case it looks like the best bang for the buck is the Vision. They redid the design and it appears to have made a big difference.

It seems the redesigned one is good since Ralph Davis, Greg Graziani and Tracy Barker all came forward and said they now use the new Vision racks exclusively and love them. Tracy even said she is keeping bloods in these racks.
Pro Exotics is switching over all of their racks to Vision ones with the new facility.
If these guys are using them for their extreme high dollar animals, then they should be good for my few morphs and normals.

On a side note, Brian Hahn at ARS infromed me that the ARS-70 Tubs will fit the Visions. Even though Vision Racks don't come with tubs, I can still order the tubs thru ARS, get the rack from Vision, and it will cost $300 less (with one extra level) than going with just the ARS rack.
 
SPJ said:
It seems the redesigned one is good since Ralph Davis, Greg Graziani and Tracy Barker all came forward and said they now use the new Vision racks exclusively and love them. Tracy even said she is keeping bloods in these racks.
Pro Exotics is switching over all of their racks to Vision ones with the new facility.
If these guys are using them for their extreme high dollar animals, then they should be good for my few morphs and normals.

Steve,

Where did you get this info from?

J
 
I'd be interested to know that too. The video and pics of the Barkers setup show they were using almost nothnig but freedom breeders and the few pics on RDRs site that shows a snake still in it's drawer, it's in a powder coated rack as well.
I just can't see why they would be getting rid of such a costly investment to go with vision racks exclusively.
Particularly no matter how much they have improved them since I got mine, the basic design itself just can't equal freedom breeder or ARS powder coated racks. There's a reason they are so much more expensive than the competition.
 
Clay Davenport said:
I'd be interested to know that too. The video and pics of the Barkers setup show they were using almost nothnig but freedom breeders and the few pics on RDRs site that shows a snake still in it's drawer, it's in a powder coated rack as well.
I just can't see why they would be getting rid of such a costly investment to go with vision racks exclusively.
Particularly no matter how much they have improved them since I got mine, the basic design itself just can't equal freedom breeder or ARS powder coated racks. There's a reason they are so much more expensive than the competition.

RDR is 100% Freedom Breeder as far as I am aware. I found the threads on KS where Tracy and Graziani say that they have switched to Vision racks exclusively. I don't buy it. What did they both do with the hundreds of FB racks that they own?
 
Here are some quotes.

Here at Graziani Reptiles we have switched our all of our caging over to the Vision Rack Systems. This new system is supported by six steel poles making it extremely rigid. Each level slides down the poles followed by 6 PVC spacers. The lengths of the spacers determine the space between each level. So any container that fits within the footprint of a CB-70 tray will work on this rack. If you, like so many others, are using CB-70 trays there is not a better rack system out there. Now with the new V-35 tub (half the size of the CB-70) you can house twice as many young ball pythons in the same rack. We are also using the Hatchling Racks and love them! The 18 inch shoe boxes are perfect for hatchling ball pythons. If you have any questions about the Vision Rack System feel free to contact us. The new Vision Rack System is AWESOME!!!

(863)465-2228
Greg


We have changed all of our ball pythons to these Vision racks and they have not missed a beat--lots of babies this year even with changing them to totally new environments. I like the heat system of that heat cord and love the control of the humidity also. These racks are also what I am raising all of our blood pythons in!!

Tracy/VPI

the Ball Python rack from Vision is REALLY well done. we ordered a dozen to check them out, and since we are building a new facility this next year, we will be swapping over all of our sweater box style racking to the Vision stuff. hundreds and hundreds of cages.

they are a terrific value, super sturdy, yet super simple and well thought out.
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That I cannot answer.

I was just going by the fact they say they use these to house extremely expensive animals. If the quality was not there, why would you take that chance?
 
i'm going to have to put my hands on these new vision racks, give them a test drive. lol last year at daytona, the vision racks i saw were flimsy and too lightweight. maybe they have improved on the design?

vaughn
 
SPJ said:
That I cannot answer.

I was just going by the fact they say they use these to house extremely expensive animals. If the quality was not there, why would you take that chance?

I'm not buying it...Why would they get rid of six figures worth of FB racks for unproven Vision plastic racks?
 
Steve, did you end up getting the Vision racks? If so, what do you think so far?
 
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