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    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

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    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Bad Guy Warning: Bait and Switch by Marcie and Mike Crawford aka MnM Dragons

I totally agree Ed. They have been viewing this thread and have not said a word. They just used blackmail to speak through the OP.

Shame on them.
 
I recognize that male yellow citrus. It used to be my boy when I was into dragons. Mike purchased it not to long ago saying he was going to be a breeder I believe. It sucks to see him just selling him :(

And if he or she says that they are going to stop feeding them because of a BOI then I hope they the owners starve and not the dragons!
 

2012-09-19 10:33:42 Sure can you do moneygram at Walmart or western union? I also have chase if you want to deposit into my acct 2012-09-19 10:59:37 Does that work?
2012-09-19 11:08:05 Possibly... I've never transferred money using any of those methods though. Do you have paypal by chance?
2012-09-19 11:09:53 I just got PayPal yesterday and it won't let the money go thru cuz I'm new so it will sit pending for 21 days :( so if you could do one of those three it
2012-09-19 11:09:54 would be best or pay in person tomorrow


Pretty much textbook scamming. PayPal takes about 3-5 business days, at most, to verify a bank account with them. Sometimes, it takes less. I can verify my bank within minutes. I am pretty sure you can do so with Chase as well.

Western Union, Moneygram and Bank Transfers are pretty much impossible to get your money back from.

They really have no leg to stand on.

Re-Read Paypals New Policy set in not long ago. Any New account even verified with bank, will have up to 21 day hold on all incoming balance. Not defending them, but its a policy that not anyone can signup and get money same day. They have to wait, same with ebay now. All funds are put on hold with new accounts.

Funds availability details

When some sellers receive payments, we may hold the money in their pending balance for up to 21 days. We want to make sure that there are no problems with the orders, such as disputes, claims, returns, or chargebacks. After we determine that the order was fulfilled and the customer is satisfied, we may release the money earlier.

If we place your money in a pending balance, it belongs to you but isn't immediately available to spend or withdraw.

We'll let you know if payments on your account are held. We'll also let you know what steps you can take to have your money released earlier. If your PayPal account was already limited, you'll need to lift those limits before you complete the steps to release your payments.
 
I recognize that male yellow citrus. It used to be my boy when I was into dragons. Mike purchased it not to long ago saying he was going to be a breeder I believe. It sucks to see him just selling him :(

And if he or she says that they are going to stop feeding them because of a BOI then I hope they the owners starve and not the dragons!
I understood that as they are basically out of money besides taking care of themselves and can't afford crickets. Not that they will purposefully starve the dragons over a BOI bad guy.

However, to the OP, don't discount a small or nonexistent fauna history. While it CAN be an indicator, you'll some times snub someone who is genuinely nice. I've bought and traded here now and didn't receive a rating on either transaction (I don't find asking for them is a decent thing to do either).

Glad they owned up to their "mistakes" however I see it as a hindsight mistake, in that it didn't become a mistake until the BOI came up.
 
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