WARNING- druzella24 Timothy Gomez [email protected]

[Donel]

Neil,
I posted here not to get sympathy,but to let people know not to do business with this guy,as Dave did not trade anything but bought a reptile.Was just letting him know as well as others, this was not an isolated incident with this guy.And yep,I learned my lesson about trades.And I don't need you(who apparently has nothing better to do but come on here and criticize others in a negative way)to point it out.
Neil,do you think it makes you look cool/intelligent or something?
Actually makes you look like an idiot,because from what I posted, I admitted being the dummy for shipping first to this guy.And by the way,he did have references.I just didn't check them thoroughly enough.But you live and you learn.

Donel Curanovic
Constrictor Creations

 

[Donel]

This thread is going in the wrong direction .So I'm done.Hope the info on Tim Gomez at least helps someone out........

Peace!
Donel Curanovic
Constrictor Creations
Novi,Mi

 

[Suncoast Herpetological]

Neil I have wanted to say this for years and I have finally heard you make that moronic statement "no one should ever ship first in a trade" one time too many.

You are an idiot.

You surely must realize that if no one ever shipped first or simultaneously in a trade then there would be no trades...right?

For God's Sake quit making that moronic statement

 

[druzella24]

Donel if you want to hello face to face you know where I live why do you come over. You have my address use it if you want to say hello. BTW my profile says south beach Fl because I use to live there. I just never changed my profile.

 

[Jim O]

Neil I have wanted to say this for years and I have finally heard you make that moronic statement "no one should ever ship first in a trade" one time too many.

You are an idiot.

You surely must realize that if no one ever shipped first or simultaneously in a trade then there would be no trades...right?

For God's Sake quit making that moronic statement

Thank you John. Neil, you are an idiot. I suggest you never leave your house so you'll never be in a car accident or a carjacking. And while you're at it, never touch your keyboard and that way you'll never be electrocuted (and we'll be spared your holier than though pomposity).

Donel if you want to hello face to face you know where I live why do you come over. You have my address use it if you want to say hello. BTW my profile says south beach Fl because I use to live there. I just never changed my profile.

Umm...as the mod suggested to you earlier:

Tim,

As per the rules, you need to post your full name on every single post or you run the risk of having them deleted.

best to edit it now since your FULL NAME is required in all BOI posts, Mr. Rothernberg erm...Gomez. Which is it again?

 

[Donel]

The scammer has spoken!

Yeah Jim,I agree with you and John.If you look at Neil's past post history,all he does is come on here to rip on people,I think it excites him.
Ya know Neil they make a little blue pill for that if your having issues.

Well,I thought I was done posting,but the scammer has come out from under his rock! Tim, how come you have no explanation about trying to rob/scam people on this site? Oh, I know it takes you a day or two to think up a few more stupid lies.I thought you told me you have lived in your same NY apartment for the last 10 years when we spoke on the phone? Funny you say you never changed your profile and you lived in FL, but your profile is since 05 only two years? And if I remember correctly(I could be mistaken),But,I thought your profile said NY not very long ago? Well maybe the Web moderator can check for us?
Anyway Tim it really doesn't matter,I think people get the picture that you,TIM GOMEZ/ROTHERNBERG ARE A PIECE OF CRAP BAD SCAM ARTIST/THIEF,so hopefully you'll never do any more reptile dealings/scams on this site or any other.As far as I'm concerned,Dave should accept nothing less than all his funds back paid in full and have your thieving ass locked up.

And as far as us meeting face to face,I doubt I could find a correct name/address for you if I wanted to.



Donel Curanovic
Constrictor Creations

 

[druzella24]

I live at this apt for 9 1/2 yrs to be exact, my profile says Fl because I live in both states, (CONDO in MIAMI BEACH). so don't be made because I live in two states and you live in a trailer in the woods. also from 05 to 06 is not two yrs you ass it's one yr. If you want to check the web moderator be my guest. I wasn't scaming you. Your just made because I didn't do the trade for those pencil snakes you sent me. Also I don't think those snakes you sent me were het for snow because no one in there right mind would trade so called $4000.00 worth of snakes like you claim for a sub adult albino female which you can get for 1500.00 bucks I think those snake were het for CRAP JUST LIKE THE CRAP COMING OUT FOR YOUR MONTH. Like I said before your more than welcome to pay me a visit any "F-ing" time you want and you can come or send anyone you want to my house. Don't doubt my address because you have the right one. You can call me all the names you want, you have my address why don't you pay me a visit and say them in my face and bring anyone you want.
TIMOTHY GOMEZ

 

[Mike Greathouse]

I commend both parties for handling this like adults, without unnecessary name calling or threats or .... all that other junk!

So much for handling this like adults!

 

[druzella24]

sorry Mike. It wont happen again. Tim Gomez

 

[Thorsnake]

I recieved the snake. To my surprise she is nice, healthy, and what he sent pictures of. His discription to my wife on breeding in a few months was off by a about a year. I'm gonna to post the payback agreement which he singed, plus had notarized. I took this agreement, as I thought it was the only way to get my money back. I will post every week when he sends the payemnt on time. So you all know he is keeping his word.

TIMOTHY GOMEZ agrees to send the Albino Female bci as collateral Friday July 14th, shipping overnight for Saturday July 15th arrival plus a Notarized and signed copy of this agreement and DAVID POTTER agrees to the following upon LIVE arrival of the animal:
To hold the snake for a period of 8 weeks, till a full refund is received ( $ 1288.00 One thousand two hundred and eighty eight dollars in full plus shipping costs and cost of feeding of the animal and any other fees that might apply)
To feed the snake every two weeks (4 meals), Mr.Gomez will have to pay for the cost of XL rats ($ 4.00 four dollars per rat)
The payments are schedule to be made in 8 installments of $ 161.00 (one hundred and sixty one dollars), the dates when payment must be received are listed below:
1st payment :07/21/2006
2nd payment: 07/28/2006
3rd payment: 08/04/2006
4th payment: 08/11/2006
5th payment:08/18/2006
6th payment:08/25/2006
7th payment:09/01/2006
8th payment:09/08/2006
Feeding 4 XL rats: $ 16.00
Aprox Shipping cost: $ 54.00 (final shipping cost will be determined right before shipping as cost varies from carrier to carrier)
Payments will be made by PAYPAL ONLY and should be made on the dates listed above, additional payment will be required to cover any fees that might occur by using this payment method (because this is not a refund is a payment plan to get back the full $1288.00)
I will send you a signed and notarized copy of this agreement upon LIVE arrival of snake.
If Timothy Gomez fails to pay in timely manner it will lose ownership of the snake and the money will be refunded and David Potter will be free to do his will with the boa.

Thanks

David Potter

 

[Fangthane]

So druzella24 gets an interest-free loan paid back on his own terms and Thorsnake gets to care for someone else's snake for the next 2 months..all for the privilege of making absolutely nothing out of the deal. It sucks seeing the bad guy come out on top.

 

[ms_terese]

So druzella24 gets an interest-free loan paid back on his own terms and Thorsnake gets to care for someone else's snake for the next 2 months..all for the privilege of making absolutely nothing out of the deal. It sucks seeing the bad guy come out on top.

It sucks more seeing the good guy never get anything back. Keep repeating: the glass is half FULL! the glass is half FULL!

 

[Bill_Leverton]

I recieved the snake. To my surprise she is nice, healthy, and what he sent pictures of. His discription to my wife on breeding in a few months was off by a about a year. I'm gonna to post the payback agreement which he singed, plus had notarized. I took this agreement, as I thought it was the only way to get my money back. I will post every week when he sends the payemnt on time. So you all know he is keeping his word.

Ok so far,so good

TIMOTHY GOMEZ agrees to send the Albino Female bci as collateral Friday July 14th, shipping overnight for Saturday July 15th arrival plus a Notarized and signed copy of this agreement and DAVID POTTER agrees to the following upon LIVE arrival of the animal:
To hold the snake for a period of 8 weeks, till a full refund is received ( $ 1288.00 One thousand two hundred and eighty eight dollars in full plus shipping costs and cost of feeding of the animal and any other fees that might apply)
To feed the snake every two weeks (4 meals), Mr.Gomez will have to pay for the cost of XL rats ($ 4.00 four dollars per rat)
The payments are schedule to be made in 8 installments of $ 161.00 (one hundred and sixty one dollars), the dates when payment must be received are listed below:
1st payment :07/21/2006
2nd payment: 07/28/2006
3rd payment: 08/04/2006
4th payment: 08/11/2006
5th payment:08/18/2006
6th payment:08/25/2006
7th payment:09/01/2006
8th payment:09/08/2006
Feeding 4 XL rats: $ 16.00
Aprox Shipping cost: $ 54.00 (final shipping cost will be determined right before shipping as cost varies from carrier to carrier)
Payments will be made by PAYPAL ONLY and should be made on the dates listed above, additional payment will be required to cover any fees that might occur by using this payment method (because this is not a refund is a payment plan to get back the full $1288.00)
I will send you a signed and notarized copy of this agreement upon LIVE arrival of snake.
If Timothy Gomez fails to pay in timely manner it will lose ownership of the snake and the money will be refunded and David Potter will be free to do his will with the boa.

Thanks

David Potter

I'm going on my gut here, but I have strange feeling that the next chapter to this is going to be, David owning the snake. David will get a couple of payments(maybe) then something will come up (IE) Car broke down, Baby needed diapers all the excuses we have heard time and time again,No offence Tim, But after what Donel posted I have to see this for what it is...A time buying ploy,But on the other hand if you follow through, I for one will apologize,for be wrong about you, but thats another chapter.

 

[Tsutton5]

Ok so far,so good

I'm going on my gut here, but I have strange feeling that the next chapter to this is going to be, David owning the snake. David will get a couple of payments(maybe) then something will come up (IE) Car broke down, Baby needed diapers all the excuses we have heard time and time again,No offence Tim, But after what Donel posted I have to see this for what it is...A time buying ploy,But on the other hand if you follow through, I for one will apologize,for be wrong about you, but thats another chapter.

It will be interesting to see if and how many payment will be made

 

[Donel]

Tim your so full of crap

Tim,
Nice bunch of BS.You are so full of crap! If the boas were such pencils and the dh snows were not het for crap,why did you offer to keep and buy it on payments jerkoff? If you would like I can remind you of your email offer and post your emails on here?
So you live in two states,but can't afford to pay back in full the money you stole from David ?
More crap and more crap.....................

As far as living in a trailer/mobile home I don't live in one,I own my own home,but I see nothing wrong with people who do?
Also, I can have the people/customers come on here and attest to what nice boas they are as I sold/traded the same boas I sent you two days after I recieved them back from you.
Also the genetics were guaranteed and came with a picture ID signed by me and you also got pics of both parents you loser.I can also post pics of the parents on here if you like I still have them,mom is still a Kahl albino and dad is still an anery 100% het albino/snow.Lets see, I had 18 babies 10 were albino 100% het snow and eight were dh snows.And a breedable adult albino is worth more than $1500,at least to me it would of been beacuse I was shy on breeder females.
So nice attempt at talkin more crap and lies.
You Loser

Donel Curanovic
Constrictor Creations

 

[Gecko_Den]

Not being a Boa guy, what's the value of the female Albino that David is holding as collateral?

 

[Gecko_Den]

It's a shame that since Rich removed the restrictions and opened up the BOI for free posting again every thread seems to break out into it's own off topic sub thread of people arguing and calling each other names like they were still on the playground in 5th grade......

 

[Donel]

Hey Tim,remember these emails?

Due to being extremely pissed,I will carry this thread a bit further.
And by the way Tim,If I was to meet you face to face I definitely would not need anyone with me,that's a fact.
Here are some of our emails word for word-

Wed, 05 Jul 2006 14:37:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: [email protected] Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE:Trade
To: "Donel Curanovic" <[email protected]>

# 853164237447 I didn't receive the snake at 9:30 am because I was at
hospital with my wifesince Sunday afternoon while she was giving birth
to my daughter. I forgot to call you and tell you not to send them but
it slipped my mind due to the (BIRTH OF MY CHILD). Which is more
important to me than any thing. so your snakes should be there tomorrow
morning by 10:30 am # is 853164237447


>From: Donel Curanovic <[email protected]>
>Date: Wed Jul 05 10:07:35 CDT 2006
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE:Trade

>What gave me the idea you were going to stiff me well lets see.......
First off, you said you didn't recieve the snakes when they were
delivered at 9.30 am and signed for by a Rothernberg or Rothenberg(because
you failed to contact me like you said you would if you were not going to
be there to recieve the snakes.I understand you were busy,but a 5
minute phone call is not that tough.I took way more than 5 minutes to
package and ship them to you in a timely manor along with detailed proof of
genetics and pics and I have a newborn that I care for everyday,along
with my snake and taxidermy business,so everyone is busy).Then at 10 pm
at night you say you still didn't recieve them,that the supposed
neighbor Rothenberg didn't recieve them either.Then after I talk to you and
tell you I'm contacting Fed ex to see which apmnt and what the person
looked like who recieved the snakes,you call me back 5 minutes later and
say the old lady's son passed you by in the hall and has the package(boy
what a coincidence!) Then you ask if you can send the snake on Thurs.
instead of Wed. because your busy, so I say ok,then I finally get in
touch with you Thurs. evening after not hearing from you all day and you
tell me they can't gaurantee next day when I recieved a snake no
problem that was shipped out via Fed ex that evening and I recieved it
on FRI.Then I look back at my emails and there is an email from a Pearl
Rothernberg with a pic of the female albino? Now come on! You don't have to
be a rocket scientist to figure out something fishy is going on here?
Then you tell me you won't ship the female albino to me because I was
upset about the deal and said I would contact whatever authorities I
needed to to get my snakes back! After I emailed you apologizing,saying
what a nice guy you seemed to be etc...</div> <div>I did my part and
shipped the snakes when we agreed.That's $4000 worth of snakes,if it were
you in my shoes and I did the same thing to you, you would be just as
distraut and concerned. Then you offer to buy the dh snow after telling
me you aren't doing business with me.</div> <div>The whole deal on
your end seemed shadey as hell ! How can you blame me? The only thing you
had to do to make the deal right is ship the female albino to me and
you can't even do that(and I even paid the shipping!).So to answer you
question, yes I am upset that I went through all this shit with you and
didn't get the albino we agreed upon.</div> <div>Maybe it was
coincidence/misunderstanding but it was just too many weird things.</div>
<div>So I can't believe you didn't understand why I was nervous and upset
about the deal.
>
>[email protected] wrote: what ever. do what you have to do. just
so that you know I do have the 5 ft female albino boa. your just upset
because things didn't go as planed and you thought I was going to stiff
you, you having my information on where to find me and phone # I still
don't know what gave you the idea that I was going to stiff you...
>
>>From: Donel Curanovic <[email protected]>
>>Date: Tue Jul 04 20:29:31 CDT 2006
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE:Trade
>
>>Tim, I just can't figure you man? First you say you won't do business
with me,then you want the dh female on payments.If you were willing to
buy the dh(which is doing business)why not just send me the snake I was
promised?I even payed the shipping back which should have been your
cost,I just don't want all this crap and $ for shipping to go for
basically nothing.Also you actually got a way better deal,I can pick up an
albino female that size for less than $2000.The Cotton Candy albino het
snow babies are worth $1600-$1800 each,probably more as I am about sold
out at that price.Plus the dh snow female at $450. Only thing I can
figure is you weren't going to ship her from the beginning,or maybe you
don't even have the supposed 5ft albino female to begin with.Anyway,I
will look for my boas on Thurs. Please send me a tracking #. Also, I am
making all of the dealers/breeders that I am friends with and work with
aware of how this deal went down,then they can make their own
assumptions as to whether or not to do any business with you in the future.
Sincerely, Donel
>>
>>[email protected] wrote: ok thats fine. I'll send them
back<BR><BR>>From: Donel Curanovic <[email protected]><BR>>Date: Tue Jul
04 17:53:38 CDT 2006<BR>>To: [email protected]<BR>>Subject: Re:
Re: Re: RE:Trade<BR><BR>>Hi Tim, With all the problems we have had with
this deal I would just really like them all back.Normally I wouldn't
have a problem with it,but I have been out $100 shipping for nothing, plus
my time,major headaches and have turned people down who were interested
in the babies because I thought we had traded.If you still want to send
me the 5ft albino female we originally traded for then you can keep all
three as previuosly agreed.Otherwise I would like them all back.
Thanks, Donel
>>
>>[email protected] wrote: Donel, I have a question I want to
purches the dh female for 450.00 but I dont have the money to buy her now
will you be willing to do a payment plan $100.00 a week starting this
friday until she's paid off. at the same time will it be ok to keep the
snake here and I'm still going to send the albinos back tomorrow. Please
let me know what you think. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Donel Curanovic <[email protected]>
>>>>Date: Fri Jun 30 19:54:20 CDT 2006
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Subject: Re: Re: RE:Trade
>>>
>>>>You said you would call me if you could not be there for the boas
being delivered on Tues.And that's just a start,but I'm not wasting my
breath going over it again,you know you screwed up.As far as shipping,it
cost me $44.00 to ship next day priority with at fedex with a
signature,delivered by 10.30 am,so $50.00 will cover it.If not I'll cover the
difference,but it will be the same amount.The box weighed two pounds and
you have the dimensions etc........ I will paypal you tonight and I
expect my boas alive and well at my door on Thurs.
Donel<BR>><BR>>[email protected] wrote: I never promised you that i would call
you when I received them. I forgot to call you because the birth of my
child which is more to me than any snake deal and anything else. I wasn't
able to be there to receive the snakes because I was at the hospital
with my wife while she was giving birth. anyway I hopr 50 bucks if enough
to ship don't for get paypal charges 3% when you send the 50 bucks so
dont forget to add that on to the 50 bucks. <BR>>>Thank You
<BR>>>Timothy Gomez<BR>>><BR>>>>From: Donel Curanovic
<[email protected]><BR>>>>Date: Fri Jun 30 12:24:26 CDT 2006<BR>>>>To:
[email protected]<BR>>>>Subject: Re: RE:Trade<BR>>><BR>>>>Tim I am not the one who
screwed up the deal.You did it from the get go from not being there and to
not calling me as promised, to not shipping when you were supposed
to,immediately after recieving your snakes as per our agreement.If you would
have been there at 9.30 am or called for me to ship another day so you
could be there, you could have shipped my snake out the same day as
agreed.I even agreed to do you a favor and wait until Thurs. instead of
Wed. for you to ship and you couldn't even do that! You just cost me a
$100 in shipping and tons of headache I did not need.I am not surprised
you are shipping them back as you probably did not plan on shipping me
the so called 5ft albino female you have anyway. As far as an account #
,I will paypal you the $50.00 to ship them back to me.It's a small
price to pay not to ever do any business with you again! I tried to be
patient,but it's one thing after another with you.As far as threatening,I
did not threaten,only told you fact if I did not recieve my snake.All I
wanted is what I gave you,what we agreed upon in the trade and you
didn't even come close to keeping the agreement. Will paypal you the
shipping as soon as you let me know Donel<BR>>>><BR>>>>[email protected]
wrote: Heres one Matthew Martin from monster cages 570-474-0122 I
trades a guyana female for an albino female, Glenn polanco 714-454-5714 I
traded 2 peruvian females for the stripe line albino. these are the only
one's I've done trades with but I've come to a diction to send back
your 3 snakes. You can call them if you like but I'm still sending back
your 3 snakes. also I hope you have a fedex account where the snake can
be billed to because after being threatened by you I think we should not
do business. Please e-mail me with a fedex account # so these snake can
be shipped on Wednesday, if I dont get a shipping account # to bill the
snakes then they wont be shipped until I receive one, after the
conversation yesterday I will not pay to return your snakes. so if you want
them send me a fedex account #.
>>>>>
>>>>>Timothy Gomez 347-570-2556
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Donel Curanovic <[email protected]>
>>>>>>Date: Fri Jun 30 08:01:22 CDT 2006
>>>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>>>Subject: RE:Trade
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Tim, Just wanted to touch base with you regarding the trade.I
was just wondering if you could give me some references I can call from
people/dealers breeders you have done business with just to set my mind
at ease here.I really apologize for all the BS and my being upset if my
weariness is in vane.I normally always have a great relationship with
all my customers/business associates.And probably 90% of my customers
who buy from me,buy again and again. But due to circumstances of this
trade thus far,I am really beside myself.If it were you in my shoes you
would also be upset.It's just that I do not know you and the
circumstances thus far point to a scam,and with all the low-life people these days
who are dishonest and have no concious or integrity,it makes it hard to
trust people.Regarding the message I left you,I by no means meant that
as an idle threat or threat.Was just letting you know the seriousness
of the situation and the lengths/means at which I will go
through(whether it be local authorities/police,myself,relatives,Private investigator
etc..) to get my boa you owe me or my boas back.I would really like to
have an ongoing good business relationship with you(for future
trades/buying selling/references etc...) as you seem like a really nice guy the
times we spoke and I don't like to burn any bridges as you seem like
you don't either. Thanks, Donel Curanovic
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Donel Curanovic
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[Bill_Leverton]

Not being a Boa guy, what's the value of the female Albino that David is holding as collateral?

Babies = about $600-$800 2 year old about $2000 or better depending on what strain

 

[Jim O]

Hey Tim Gomez...care to explain the Pearl Rothernberg e-mail and the attempt to claim that you never received the shipment?

Also, a little inconsistent, aren't we?

First you said:

my profile says south beach Fl because I use to live there. I just never changed my profile.

Then you said:

I live at this apt for 9 1/2 yrs to be exact, my profile says Fl because I live in both states, (CONDO in MIAMI BEACH)

Whichh is it? Did you "use to live there" or do you "live in both states"?

And you have two residences but not enough cash to refund someone else's money that you spent?

Is it fun moving your reptile collection back and forth between the two states, some 1000 miles apart? You must have two set-ups for your reptiles, but not enough cash to buy things for your baby?

I know you don't want my opinion, but here it is anyway: I think you're full of crap.