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Nicole,
It would have been nice if this had stayed between "the six of us" in a civilized manner. Are you saying that once Wendy starts getting this absurd harassment, she still needs to stay with the "six of us"? While you are certainly welcome to wish that it didn't explode here, oh well !! We will never know the whole truth, but we do know the difference between civil disagreement and harassment. A line was crossed many times, and now the discussion is here. Most of us here could care less about the disagreement. The harassment is to be condemned. I don't know Erik's involvement with Tim outside of what he stated, but seeing as how Tim tainted himself, I will blame Erik for not either using his influence to dissuade Tim, if not condemn his actions. So they didn't know each other before? Erik decided to converse with Tim just as the harrassment was ramping up. I see only one side posting phone records, voice recordings, records of contractors and retailers showing up unexpected, etc. It went well beyond a simple disagreement, or as you put it a "he said she said". I would hope that the police trace everything. I doubt you endorse this kind of harassment, but haven't exactly distanced yourself from it by your posts, and now seem to think its got no business outside the "circle of six".

Nicole, no one here is going to disagree with your right to protect your business, your name, etc. In any venue. But the overwhelming issue here is the extensive harassment. Phone calls at 9:30 at night are not nice. Multiple calls at 3:00 AM are a bit worse, don't you think? When something starts to stink this bad, if you don't draw a line to disassociate yourself from the part of it that is clearly offensive, you will pick up some of the stink too. Sorry, we disagree :}. This deserved the light of the BOI.
 
More lies from the little girl

Wendy,

You haven't proved one thing, except that your lies never end.

"1. The email posted here by YOU from Nicole saying "I am turning me over to deal with Erik". It was within 60 minutes that I received the first nasty message from the same voice that is believed to be Erick's that says "You **** **** **** **** you violate copyright law you ***** ***** of *****"."

Within 60 minutes of what time? When I got the email from Nicole, I called her and told her there was no copyright problem. Then you claim you get a nasty message. Then there would be a phone record of a call leaving my house. So I can prove that I never left a nasty message. Did I mention I have witnesses that night. What time was this call? Are you afraid to say?

"2. You have had the privilege to have had my credit card information and have mailed a bag of food to the very same address and phone number that Timmy is posting all over this thread. He doesn't know us from Adam. We have done NO business with him. That address is NOT the business address, so how did Timmy get a unregister phone number and address? I goggled us, as well as the phone #. You get NO ADDRESS! You abused your status as a salesman by using my private HOME information to harass me!"

Check with PayPal, They don't give out credit card information. Check your facts. I never Met Tim, I never spoke to him until last night and I can prove that. And according to him he does know you, and he says you screwed him over big-time. How he got your address or number is between you and him. You are just making speculations and can not prove a thing.

"3. My mother talked to you in May when you blew up our phone doing THE EXACT SAME THING back in May. She told you to get a life and asked you "Don't you have anything better to do" your reply was "NOPE" she said she would turn you into the police. your reply was "go ahead you cant prove it **** I use a calling card". Just like then, now almost all of these calls are from a pre paid calling card."

"BLEW UP YOUR PHONE"? What does this mean? This is a complete lie. I have phone records proving when I called you because you would not answer emails, and after you screamed endlessly like a baby, Your mother did the same exact thing. I never got one single word in. She just hung up. Good try but another lie. Again this has nothing to do with your harassment and outright verbal attacks that occurred from 7/6/2006 until 5:07 AM 7/7/2006

"4. Today my mother talked to Nicole. In that conversation she said " I think Erik is paranoid sckitsophrenia, massive depressed, or bi, polar, I have had to deal with someone like that before". Funny how Timmy used the EXACT same line here. So if he is not your friend, then he is Nicole's!"

At least your consistent with your lies. She never called them today, Nicole never said anything remotely like that about me. I just spoke with her. Now if your Mother said that, it would definitely describe your behavior since you display these symptoms. Once again, The first time I spoke to Tim was last night and your lies are getting weak and pathetic.

"5. Tims first Physical threatening email to me states "you are messing with the wrong PEOPLE" claiming himself as multiples. So he is blatantly crazy, or involved with someone in this."

I've already answered this question. i don't know him.

"6. Another post Timmy made "Maybe if you wouldn't run your mouth SLAMMING people on their listings and leaving RUDE remarks in their ads or auctions saying that what they are doing is illegal when infact YOU ARE WRONG ,then people would leave you alone. " Could that refer to the messed up gecko that you produced ERIK? That yes I am putting that in public that you sold a deformed gecko and I have it posted???? Who else would the "people" be????? Again is Erik in multiples?"

From what TIM told me last night was that you left rude remarks on his ads and something to do about shipping, go read the posts. This Gibberish has nothing to do with me. The gecko he was talking about and yes I'm putting this in public was your gecko. Something about it having worms. Again your shooting in the dark and this has nothing to do with me. This is between you and Tim and from what I gather part of the reason why he hates you. I've never sold a deformed gecko in my life. If you know of someone who says I did. Bring them forward. You can't. Every animal I ever sold was perfect and not one person has ever complained. Most are return customers who are extremely happy with my service and the high quality of my animals. What is your IQ? 80. Your reading comprehension, spelling and your writing is about that of a sixth grader. You must be sick or have mental problems. Or both

"7. Post # 57 Timmy made "That if Miss Wendy would have kept her mouth shut and wasn't whining and sniveling to everyone about her paranoia she wouldn't have this problem. I feel that she has violated me and has been slamming my name to try and feel better about herself.". I have NEVER said a word about this person. I have not been violating him and slamming his name. IT WAS YOU I HAVE BE ACCUSING! That is an EXACT sentence you have said and I have recorded on my messages - HE has repeated it. Where did he get that from if not from you? It is NOT posted ANYWHERE."

Since I NEVER left any message's besides the one to tell you to stop harassing me and my family and according to the above mentioned you have said plenty to this person, but apparently you have brain damage and don't remember what you did to this person. He sure does. You did something to this guy and it must have been even nastier then the threats you treated me to. You don't get it. I have better things to do than to waste time with ignorant people like yourself. You committed a crime and the police will deal with you. A simple solution to a problem like yourself.

"8. Timmy states in multiple posts here that he knows you did not make any of the calls or send any of the people to my HOME ADDRESS. How does he know that if he does not know you??????"

This is like talking to a child. He knows this because he is admitting he did it and I guess he wants you to know he did it.

So your proof adds up to ZERO. I was done with your lies and psychotic behavior back in may. Now you broke the law and you will have to deal with the consequences. Plain and simple.
 
Jim -
Do you have this "proof" in hand? If so, will you please screen shot and/or edit it and post the information for the rest of us? The "he said, she said" is beginning to get a bit dull.
Does the harassment actually point to Eric or Tim? Or is Tim's harassment of Wendy, prompting Wendy's harassment of Eric and in turn dragging the Clarks into this mess - when their issues with Wendy are completely separate to the initial BOI complaint??
 
Erik,
You guys (you, Timmy, Wendy) and these long diatribes that accomplish nothing are not convincing any reader of anything except that they might wish a pox on all your houses. With the name-calling in every paragraph, who is being impressed? Its unfortunate that the spat got heated, but is nothing new. I would hope that those responsible for the excessive, and likely unlawful, harassment, have decided not to go there again. While phone calls at all hours of the night are bad, to then abuse the working people who came out for the "house-calls" by stealing their time is lower than whale turds, and at least one person in the "gang of six" knows all about it !! I would hope that those not directly responsible for it, but in a position to influence those that were, used that influence properly.
 
Dachiu said:
Jim -
Do you have this "proof" in hand? If so, will you please screen shot and/or edit it and post the information for the rest of us? The "he said, she said" is beginning to get a bit dull.
Does the harassment actually point to Eric or Tim? Or is Tim's harassment of Wendy, prompting Wendy's harassment of Eric and in turn dragging the Clarks into this mess - when their issues with Wendy are completely separate to the initial BOI complaint??
Give this man a cigar
 
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clarksgeckos said:
I am so mad right now I just realized I made a mistake MY HUSBAND IS NOT A POS. OOPS I am su flustered right now I have been shaking for almost 2 days this is BULL****.

From this post and the FULL NAME displayed in your user profile, I assume your name is WILLIAM. What is your husband's name? If YOUR name is not WILLIAM, then you need to get your own separate account here and log in and POST using that login so everyone will know exactly who is typing in messages in this forum.

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Dachiu said:
Jim -
Do you have this "proof" in hand? If so, will you please screen shot and/or edit it and post the information for the rest of us? The "he said, she said" is beginning to get a bit dull.
Does the harassment actually point to Eric or Tim? Or is Tim's harassment of Wendy, prompting Wendy's harassment of Eric and in turn dragging the Clarks into this mess - when their issues with Wendy are completely separate to the initial BOI complaint??

That is exactly what I was thinking at this point. Just every time I typed it it came out as a mini novel. Thank you Vickie!!
 
Vickie ...

Does the harassment actually point to Eric or Tim? Or is Tim's harassment of Wendy, prompting Wendy's harassment of Eric and in turn dragging the Clarks into this mess - when their issues with Wendy are completely separate to the initial BOI complaint??

Good points within. Working in reverse, I agree completely with the Clarks' issues not being significant to the main issue of the thread. I think most of us recognize that they had their spat that would have been nicely confined to the "group of six". The escalation of that to the major harassment is the significant issue here, as you and others have realized.


I am in possession of evidence, both emails and digital audio recordings. Others in this forum are as well, and have acknowledged such. The only thing I will say or do regarding such is confirm that the nonsense exists, and that the unlawful harassment did occur as Wendy alleges. My advice to Wendy, and all parties, has been to pursue things with the authorities if they feel so moved. I feel that Wendy's evidence is significant, and haven't seen any allegations in the thread that remotely approach a reciprocal harassment. I will not be posting any of it, even if the Pope suggested it. I feel that enough has already been posted, and hope that the police take it from here regarding the exact origins of every communication. At one point Wendy volunteered it to any takers, but I think the emails don't matter, as they are part of the "spat", and not the "harassment" IMO, regardless of how repugnant they are. The other issues bother me. I will verify that the content of the digital audio confirms that the harassing early AM phone calls were precipitated by the spat.

Many people will draw different conclusions from what is "fact" here. I for one view "You are a liar" more as a means of evaluating the accuser, not the accused. Being pulled into these spats is no fun, and I will agree that it is at times involuntary. How that person then participates is a different matter. Some have conducted themselves in ways that do not lend me any sense of credibility. Participants here who claim in every other paragraph that "you have no proof", and hope that exonerates them, might be better served by not carrying on with the petty diatribes that demonstrate a propensity for being so easily provoked into the gutter. After reading all the posts, is anyone surprised at the full nature of what occurred ? If this thread contributed to the halt of the illegalities, then the BOI was effective.
 
I have no read any posts this am yet. I just want to update everyone about I call I just got.
ERIK gave the detective in NY my CELL PHONE to call. Funny how thats not published ANYWHERE, and he is not the one calling on it and abusing it, but he gave the # to the detective.

The detective said " NO POLICE HAVE BEEN TO EERIKS HOUSE" and that " NO POLICE HAVE ANY TAPES" and "NO POLICE HAVE HEARD ANY TAPES" and "NO POLICE HAVE OR HAVE SEEN ANY EMAILS" from ERik Weber proving any of the allegations he has made against us. That everything he has done is just allegations.

The detectives # is 608-271-7238. I have directed him here to this thread so he can see where Erik Lied and said otherwise.

As I type this Erik is calling my cell phone from his home.
 
Maybe you folks can talk, and figure out a way to move on. Maybe not.

To many here who expressed concerns about the two issues, the spat vs. the criminal harassment, here's the rub for me. I don't care about the spat, but understand how those within it get all worked up. The "gang of 6" was four (Nicole and Clark, Tim, Erik) against two (Wendy and her mother Jeane), with varying degrees of involvement. The spat escalated into criminal harassment against Wendy and her Mom. I have seen no documentation of reciprocal criminal harassment. Within the "gang of four", in every post they made, I saw a continuation of the spat, which is understandable. What I did not see was one member saying something akin to:

"Wendy, you and I have serious issues, and I have little if any respect for you. But, I am sorry that someone has chosen to escalate this to the level that they have. It is unacceptable, and there is no excuse. I know nothing of it, but if I find myself in a position to influence those that are, I will do so. Now, to our spat. You are a jerk because ...."

What I saw was "it wasn't me", "can't prove it was me", "better to be pissed off than pissed on", "you harassed me first (but not criminally, apparently)", etc.

If I missed it, could someone quote the post which contains this disassociation ?

Otherwise, what impression were you hoping to leave, gang of four ?
 
Proff

Ok One quick correction. The detective called back and I saw the # and thought it was Erik's. It was not THIS TIME.

The detective is Det. Bagnarols Number 845-628-1300. The second time I was on the phone with him he had to put me on hold. Erik called in and was wining that I had posted his lies about the police extent of involvement. He is busted and knows it.

Detective B knew NOTHING of this thread. Has seen no evidence via PHONE, Tapes, in person, by any police, or otherwise of the accused Harassment from My mother or I. In fact he has asked ME to copy all of this thread, along with all my police reports, all of my phone records , all my emails, all the threats, and mail it to him. Seems he had NO hard evidence at all. Now what he will receive is reversed. It shows Erik and Timmy are harassing us, and that Erik is a ball faced lier!

I will be doing just that today for the detective. No more evidence will be posted here. I feel I have proved my case. It is not in my best civil legal interest to continue to display it.

The harassment HAS NOT stopped. I got calls and emails all night as usual. But no delivery people have shown up YET today.

I also promised the detective I would NOT be replying to TIMMY, ERIK, CLARK or NICOLE. He understands that it is in my best interest of our business to answer EVERYONE Else's questions or comments. But I will no longer be replying to them as they do to me, so if you notice that please do not think I am cowering, or have no answer, or have anything to hide.

Thank you.
 
Sorry, couldn't resist ...

Wendy says:
....... is a ball faced lier!

I believe the usually proper expression is to describe someone as a "bold-faced liar", unless you were implying something else aboout looks, or perhaps (borrowing from "Men In Black") speaking of a Ballchinian :). Otherwise, while there are times for derogatory references, I think they've been over-used in this thread.
 
LOL. You are funny Jim. Thank you for correcting me. I agree the derogatory remark are not ness. I change my statement to just that " He does not speak the truth."
 
From a quick google:
...... a bald-faced liar is one who thinks there's nothing wrong with lying and a bold-faced liar is one who lies in an impudent manner.....

To all parties involved. Group A will never be best friends with Group B. Those responsible for the criminal harassment need to ice it before they are hosed, which will occur soon enough. Nothing was gained by all the other harassing either. Most of your posts here will not endear future customers to you if left as is. Would hope that most aspire for better things.
 
I thought the expression was bald faced liar.

Which makes more sense:

Bold faced liar. ( meaning someone doesn't give the usual telltale signs of lieing)

Bald faced liar (maybe meaning the guy just shaved) :scatter:
 
I stand corrected. I didn't know there was such a thing as a bald faced liar. Thanks Jim for the definition lesson.
 
This is a fun game you are playing Wendy and now I see you have invited a few friends to call my house. Its funny how every time someone calls they say that someone has called their number from my number. Can't you come up with anything better for them to say?
Anyway here is the list of Wendy's friends numbers:
Juliana Medina 718-771-1117
Darryl P. Veit 608-745-1753
Annie Fulmer 501-908-6295
Cell Phone CA 408-417-6320
Cell Phone AL 334-462-2854
Cell Phone TX 281-455-3780
Cell Phone FL 321-984-2664
I wonder how many of these numbers are in Wendy's little black book?
and I will post any other numbers that call saying that they were called from my number.
I wonder how many of these people have called Eric , maybe I should call him and compare notes. Who is being harassed? Definatly not poor Wendy.
Maybe all these callers should be contacted by their local authorities. I will have names and addresses on them before the night is over.
Too bad , my phone doesn't accept blocked calls.
 
Timmy,
Besides yor earlier acknowledgements of making threatening phone calls, and that your "ex-wife has to watch her back, so maybe Wendy should watch her's too", are we a little bit upset that you are now getting phone calls while you in turn are still making them days after this thread subsided ? Did you say you'd keep making them form prison if that's where you ended up ? What goes around comes around Timmy.
 
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