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WARNING: guy claiming to sell animals he doesn't own (INFO)

rtdunham

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there's a guy named Jeremy, lives in Missouri, email address [email protected], who has recently been trying to sell animals he doesn't own. I know this because _I_ own them.

I've heard from two well-known herpers who have been offered for sale rare Honduran milksnake and Arizona Mountain Kingsnake color morphs. As it turns out, the fella offering them is using pix from my website, and DOES NOT OWN the snakes he's offering for sale--some are still in my collection and others are in a friend's possession. We have NOTHING to do with this scam, I just wanted to warn everybody to be very cautious. He's not just offering snakes LIKE the ones in the pictures, i have copies of some of his offering emails in which he specifies one of the snakes he's offering IS the one in the picture, and that's implied about the others as well.

Among the animals he's offered are "high red tangerine albino" Hondurans, ghost Hondurans, "patternless hypo" Hondurans, and albino pyros.

Warning signs:
1) these are very rare snakes, if someone says they have ten of them, they are saying they have most if not all that exist; you have every reason to be skeptical and probably should be thrashed for even wondering if it might be true! :)
2) he's offering some of them at prices that are a small fraction of what these animals really sell for. You've heard it before, but if it's too good to be true, it probably is. And in this case, definitely is.

These two guys got lucky: Just before each of them closed deals involving thousands of dollars, it occurred to them that some of the pix looked familiar: One guy checked my website, saw the photo match, and wrote to advise me what was going on and to ask whether the guy was perhaps selling animals he'd gotten from me ("No"); the other friend sent the emails to me asking if I knew anything about such a group being for sale, and I was able to give him the scoop. Last fall this "Jeremy" was the subject of another long thread on the BOI though his method was less bold that time.

What to do:
1) check out my website, at www.albinotricolors.com The image gallery is cumbersome (soon to be improved) but if you search the image files and find matches with animals you're being offered, then--in the immortal words of Monty Python--"run away, run away."
2) after running away, please report the effort to perpetrate an internet fraud to the FBI. I did, following the instructions for such circumstances at kingsnake.com's website. Feel free to tell YOUR FBI office your report links to another complaint given to the Tampa, FL office.

Sometimes a customer will sell a snake or two he or she got from me. If someone tells you that's the case, I'm always glad to field your inquiry.

Forewarned is forearmed.

Peace
Terry
 
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thanks ritchie

i just double-checked and the first person who contacted me quoted the address incorrectly; a subsequent copy of one of the emails shows the address is as you have stated.

terry dunham
 
I have taken the liberty of making the correction within the original message to prevent confusion.
 
Hey Terry, you mean there is one out there who hasn't contacted me about selling rare hondurans he doesn't have? Wow. How many of these guys do we have to go through? ;)
Evan Stahl
 
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