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Info Watch out I got screwed BY Corsi Morphs

Ok, so when you bid on the snake, the weather forecast was 10-15 degrees cooler, then once you bid and won the auction, the weather forecast for the weeks to come went 10-15 degrees hotter ??
Please understand, Im not sure how many people here are "against you" persay, but some things just dont add up (unless, Im the only one that isnt getting all this and following this all correctly)
 
August 2Unique Pythons
Let me know if you ever get rid of her or don't want her please

August 2Jodie Todd Joel
ok, but why would you think I wouldnt her??

August 2Unique Pythons
No offense I just like her a lot and lost track of time I have some nice stuff for trade or could have bought her from you I would keep her too lol
It's only 735 here
Congratulations on your win

August 2Jodie Todd Joel
ya she is beautiful! I have a thing for the spotnose! I have a spotnose pastel m that I have lots of plans for. I have slowly been growing my double gene collection up. But I have an Enchi M for her and a few others just not sure which one yet. Ya it is only 5:37 here in Ca.
Thank you!

August 8Jodie Todd Joel
hey did you see that Corsi put up another desrt yb f on the auction??

August 8Unique Pythons
Yeah thank you

August 8Jodie Todd Joel
ok didnt want you to miss her because it ends tonight at 8 eastern time

August 12Jodie Todd Joel
are you still interested in the desert yb? I have not had her shipped to me yet because it is to hot to ship but I did pay for her already. But my husband showed up at home with a few new additions as well. So If your interested in just paying me what I paid Corsi I will have him send her to you.

August 12Unique Pythons
Yes please

August 12Unique Pythons
Send me a message as soon as you can 251-751-3268

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
how is your auction going?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
due to finish tonight

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
cool he is a very pretty snake!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
thatn you
thank*
do you have a pic of the desert?

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
no he took it off line
he didnt send it to me

TuesdayUnique Pythons
but you did already pay for her right

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes I have the invoice

TuesdayUnique Pythons
ok whats the plans on the shipping?
if all goes well i will pay everything tonight on her

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
just text you the invoice pic give it a sec to come through
sorry its a bad pic
when i get the funds in my account I will call him direct and tell him that she is being shipped to you
your not far from him so the heat is not an issue like sending to me in Cali

TuesdayUnique Pythons
shipping will be cheaper
auction will be over in 3 hours

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I have no clue but since he didnt ship to me and I paid in full already the 378.24 I just want to get that back and you get the snake
I dont understand the shipping because Jonathan ships to me from FL for $40 flat fee

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah i ship a flat rate also but that is the breeders choice

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I think it is silly...make everyone happy with a flat rate

TuesdayUnique Pythons
lol you have to account boxes snake bags heat/cool packs all that cost money also so i can understand both sides but i will buffer the costs for a happy customer

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
exactly thats what we do!
we are just getting our website put together
we have not publicized our name yet

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i use kingsnake its easier and cheaper for me well and fb some

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
with fb there is no charge for selling and placing the ads thats what I like with kingsnake and fauna there is

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah but kingsnake is animal specific also
its all in preferance

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes it is and there is the different forums here in fb land also...your right and there are different customers among them both also

TuesdayUnique Pythons
you are right

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
ok so after all this time chatting and texting back and forth I still dont know your name...LOL

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry
my name is Randall Forister

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
very nice to meet/do business with you Randall
so how many balls do you have in your collection?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
hurmm about 300ish
give or take some hatchlings

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
WOW!!! you have me totally beat! my daughter and I have just over 60
and my hubby

TuesdayUnique Pythons
thats still a great collection

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
we have a good start considering we starting last july

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yes definatly

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
what is your fav?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
the pastel spark 100% het pied
i have some reduced pattern clowns that people are on a waiting list for
i was offered 35000 for my reduced pattern breeder female

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes yes! I have a Black pastel 100% het pied...thats awesome
wow thats insane

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i have a pewter 100% het pied male for this coming season

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
thats awesome! my pied female wont be ready until next year

TuesdayUnique Pythons
its worth the wait though

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
ya right cant wait for some panda pieds

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeh i like oreo pied better lol

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
oreo?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
same thing just a different name

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
oh ok ya i like that better to

TuesdayUnique Pythons
so whats your favorite ball python?

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
spotnose
I am going to make the twilight

TuesdayUnique Pythons
twilight?
i have two female powerballs super spots

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
spotnose-cinnamon-lesser
spotnose-pastel-cinnamon
omg look it up on W of BP

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i will

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I love the spotnose gene
I have a spotnose pastel m and a spotnose 100% het albino f
are you selling any of your spotnose stuff?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
the powerballs are for sale for 3000 each
but thats all i have left from 2011

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
to rich for my blood right now my husband and his partner didnt win the bid they were hoping to win this week to move us out of this town!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i hear ya

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
it sucks!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
im sorry everything happens for a reason

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
this was not a good reason! we needed this bid to win bad! it would have moved us to AZ and into a contract for 10 years

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah but just think something better could come along tomorrow you never know

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
you sound like me

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
im just bummed

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry im just very positive always have been no matter what situation comes my way i find something good out of it

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
if you only knew what my 39 year of life has put me through you would be amazed that Im not in a straight jacket...LOL

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i bet your a better person for it though

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
you bet your ass

TuesdayUnique Pythons


TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
i am one tough chick and you better not cross me because if you do you wont know when I will get back at ya


TuesdayUnique Pythons
i believe you!

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
but other than that everyone luvs me

TuesdayUnique Pythons
lol

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
lol

TuesdayUnique Pythons
everyone loves me too
so i think anyways

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
its great isnt it
my rotts need to go outside and potty brb

TuesdayUnique Pythons
tay

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
crazy dogs
they try to catch the lizards in the backyard its so funny!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry had to take care of a few things

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
no worries me to had a playdate today for my daughter she just left
now it is clean up time...uhhh

TuesdayUnique Pythons
fun fun
ill talk to ya after the auction end

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
2 8 year olds not really
ok cya later

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Hey I was reading up on the desert females I was unaware that no one has still been able to produce a viable clutch from them. Did you know this ?
I thought by now someone would have but it isn't so

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
are you kidding me??? We have only been doing this since last july when my then 7 year old daughter got her 1st ball python and a how to care for book and said I want to make babies daddy. So no I didnt!!
if you dont want to buy her because of that I understand I am now not happy! that he didnt tell me that and I am going to ask for a refund since he cant send her to me because of the heat anyways, so let me know ok

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Yes I'm sorry I can't purchase a animal that won't reproduce knowingly anyways

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I am so sorry I had no idea!!!! and I am so pissed off!
I am messaging him right now!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
He should have told you
And he defiantly knows

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
a decent breeder would have I just talked to Dan the Snake Keeper about it and he verified it Desert Females dont produce
He is a friend of mine

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Told you I'm sorry I had to break it to you. I was researching for myself because I remembered their being a problem with them
I just thought it was resolved

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
no worries I would rather not start off my new company with a bad start!!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I understand

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
The males produce but not the females

YesterdayUnique Pythons
That's correct

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
this fool better refund my money

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I wouldn't take no for an answer

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
i wont I will slander him all over the internet

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I have your back

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
thank you very much!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
He should have had in the post PET ONLY

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I know right!
Basterd!
I talked to him on the phone for over a half hour to and he never said a thing

YesterdayUnique Pythons
that pisses me off bad
Have respect for the hobby
It gives all us breeders a bad wrap because someone wants to make a quick buck

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I am so mad he better respond and refund my money today! or he is in a world of hurt I swear!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Keep me informed please

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I plan on it! Thanks for your support!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Most welcome

18 hours agoUnique Pythons
Any resolution
 
Those emails (?) seem to point that you want a refund based on remorse and not having the knowledge that the female deserts have breeding issues. I dont see where you mentioned to that person (im assuming the prospective buyer of yours ??) that you wanted the snake not shipped and refunded because of the weather.
 
August 2Unique Pythons
Let me know if you ever get rid of her or don't want her please

August 2Jodie Todd Joel
ok, but why would you think I wouldnt her??

August 2Unique Pythons
No offense I just like her a lot and lost track of time I have some nice stuff for trade or could have bought her from you I would keep her too lol
It's only 735 here
Congratulations on your win

August 2Jodie Todd Joel
ya she is beautiful! I have a thing for the spotnose! I have a spotnose pastel m that I have lots of plans for. I have slowly been growing my double gene collection up. But I have an Enchi M for her and a few others just not sure which one yet. Ya it is only 5:37 here in Ca.
Thank you!

August 8Jodie Todd Joel
hey did you see that Corsi put up another desrt yb f on the auction??

August 8Unique Pythons
Yeah thank you

August 8Jodie Todd Joel
ok didnt want you to miss her because it ends tonight at 8 eastern time

August 12Jodie Todd Joel
are you still interested in the desert yb? I have not had her shipped to me yet because it is to hot to ship but I did pay for her already. But my husband showed up at home with a few new additions as well. So If your interested in just paying me what I paid Corsi I will have him send her to you.

August 12Unique Pythons
Yes please

August 12Unique Pythons
Send me a message as soon as you can 251-751-3268

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
how is your auction going?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
due to finish tonight

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
cool he is a very pretty snake!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
thatn you
thank*
do you have a pic of the desert?

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
no he took it off line
he didnt send it to me

TuesdayUnique Pythons
but you did already pay for her right

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes I have the invoice

TuesdayUnique Pythons
ok whats the plans on the shipping?
if all goes well i will pay everything tonight on her

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
just text you the invoice pic give it a sec to come through
sorry its a bad pic
when i get the funds in my account I will call him direct and tell him that she is being shipped to you
your not far from him so the heat is not an issue like sending to me in Cali

TuesdayUnique Pythons
shipping will be cheaper
auction will be over in 3 hours

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I have no clue but since he didnt ship to me and I paid in full already the 378.24 I just want to get that back and you get the snake
I dont understand the shipping because Jonathan ships to me from FL for $40 flat fee

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah i ship a flat rate also but that is the breeders choice

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I think it is silly...make everyone happy with a flat rate

TuesdayUnique Pythons
lol you have to account boxes snake bags heat/cool packs all that cost money also so i can understand both sides but i will buffer the costs for a happy customer

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
exactly thats what we do!
we are just getting our website put together
we have not publicized our name yet

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i use kingsnake its easier and cheaper for me well and fb some

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
with fb there is no charge for selling and placing the ads thats what I like with kingsnake and fauna there is

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah but kingsnake is animal specific also
its all in preferance

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes it is and there is the different forums here in fb land also...your right and there are different customers among them both also

TuesdayUnique Pythons
you are right

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
ok so after all this time chatting and texting back and forth I still dont know your name...LOL

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry
my name is Randall Forister

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
very nice to meet/do business with you Randall
so how many balls do you have in your collection?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
hurmm about 300ish
give or take some hatchlings

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
WOW!!! you have me totally beat! my daughter and I have just over 60
and my hubby

TuesdayUnique Pythons
thats still a great collection

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
we have a good start considering we starting last july

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yes definatly

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
what is your fav?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
the pastel spark 100% het pied
i have some reduced pattern clowns that people are on a waiting list for
i was offered 35000 for my reduced pattern breeder female

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
yes yes! I have a Black pastel 100% het pied...thats awesome
wow thats insane

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i have a pewter 100% het pied male for this coming season

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
thats awesome! my pied female wont be ready until next year

TuesdayUnique Pythons
its worth the wait though

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
ya right cant wait for some panda pieds

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeh i like oreo pied better lol

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
oreo?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
same thing just a different name

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
oh ok ya i like that better to

TuesdayUnique Pythons
so whats your favorite ball python?

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
spotnose
I am going to make the twilight

TuesdayUnique Pythons
twilight?
i have two female powerballs super spots

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
spotnose-cinnamon-lesser
spotnose-pastel-cinnamon
omg look it up on W of BP

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i will

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
I love the spotnose gene
I have a spotnose pastel m and a spotnose 100% het albino f
are you selling any of your spotnose stuff?

TuesdayUnique Pythons
the powerballs are for sale for 3000 each
but thats all i have left from 2011

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
to rich for my blood right now my husband and his partner didnt win the bid they were hoping to win this week to move us out of this town!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i hear ya

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
it sucks!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
im sorry everything happens for a reason

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
this was not a good reason! we needed this bid to win bad! it would have moved us to AZ and into a contract for 10 years

TuesdayUnique Pythons
yeah but just think something better could come along tomorrow you never know

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
you sound like me

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
im just bummed

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry im just very positive always have been no matter what situation comes my way i find something good out of it

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
if you only knew what my 39 year of life has put me through you would be amazed that Im not in a straight jacket...LOL

TuesdayUnique Pythons
i bet your a better person for it though

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
you bet your ass

TuesdayUnique Pythons


TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
i am one tough chick and you better not cross me because if you do you wont know when I will get back at ya


TuesdayUnique Pythons
i believe you!

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
but other than that everyone luvs me

TuesdayUnique Pythons
lol

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
lol

TuesdayUnique Pythons
everyone loves me too
so i think anyways

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
its great isnt it
my rotts need to go outside and potty brb

TuesdayUnique Pythons
tay

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
crazy dogs
they try to catch the lizards in the backyard its so funny!

TuesdayUnique Pythons
sorry had to take care of a few things

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
no worries me to had a playdate today for my daughter she just left
now it is clean up time...uhhh

TuesdayUnique Pythons
fun fun
ill talk to ya after the auction end

TuesdayJodie Todd Joel
2 8 year olds not really
ok cya later

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Hey I was reading up on the desert females I was unaware that no one has still been able to produce a viable clutch from them. Did you know this ?
I thought by now someone would have but it isn't so

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
are you kidding me??? We have only been doing this since last july when my then 7 year old daughter got her 1st ball python and a how to care for book and said I want to make babies daddy. So no I didnt!!
if you dont want to buy her because of that I understand I am now not happy! that he didnt tell me that and I am going to ask for a refund since he cant send her to me because of the heat anyways, so let me know ok

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Yes I'm sorry I can't purchase a animal that won't reproduce knowingly anyways

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I am so sorry I had no idea!!!! and I am so pissed off!
I am messaging him right now!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
He should have told you
And he defiantly knows

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
a decent breeder would have I just talked to Dan the Snake Keeper about it and he verified it Desert Females dont produce
He is a friend of mine

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Told you I'm sorry I had to break it to you. I was researching for myself because I remembered their being a problem with them
I just thought it was resolved

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
no worries I would rather not start off my new company with a bad start!!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I understand

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
The males produce but not the females

YesterdayUnique Pythons
That's correct

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
this fool better refund my money

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I wouldn't take no for an answer

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
i wont I will slander him all over the internet

YesterdayUnique Pythons
I have your back

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
thank you very much!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
He should have had in the post PET ONLY

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I know right!
Basterd!
I talked to him on the phone for over a half hour to and he never said a thing

YesterdayUnique Pythons
that pisses me off bad
Have respect for the hobby
It gives all us breeders a bad wrap because someone wants to make a quick buck

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I am so mad he better respond and refund my money today! or he is in a world of hurt I swear!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Keep me informed please

YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
I plan on it! Thanks for your support!

YesterdayUnique Pythons
Most welcome

18 hours agoUnique Pythons
Any resolution
 
Was the person's name buried in there someplace? If not, it is still ANONYMOUS.
 
YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
i wont I will slander him all over the internet

In my opinion, no one in their right mind will do biz with you since slander by definition is a false (spoken) statement against someone. You've just admitted you would lie.
 
If he wasnt going to buy her I was going to ask for the refund then because of the weather but because he wanted to buy her when I was the winner of the auction I gave him the opportunity to just pay me and have her shipped to him before asking for the refund.
 
So, Im still confused, youre saying that when you were starting the bid on the desert, the weather was going to be good for shipping, but as soon as you won the auction for the desert, the weather forecast changed and increased too much to ship ??
 
If he wasnt going to buy her I was going to ask for the refund then because of the weather but because he wanted to buy her when I was the winner of the auction I gave him the opportunity to just pay me and have her shipped to him before asking for the refund.

If a sell is final, why do you believe that it would right for you to expect a refund based on weather...when you bought her in the middle of a hot Summer?
 
So, based on that, Im also gathering that having 60 ball pythons already in your collection, wasnt enough to wait and bid or buy an animal when the weather was shipping appropriate, because your daughter was so insistent on getting another one ?? None of this is adding up or making much rational sense
 
by 15 -20 degrees hotter for the weeks to come yes

I don't understand why Jodie is being so vague in her answers. To have an 8-year-old daughter I would assume she would have the mental fortitude to read a simple question and post a simple reply. It is mind boggling. Perhaps I just shouldn't assume anymore?

In case you missed it, Jodie, this was the question:

reticguy76 said:
Was the weather forecast different before and when you bid on the animal ??

Your quote above didn't indicate whether it was before or after you bid on the animal, and/or before or after you won the animal that the forecast called for such extreme conditions.

With a rather rudimentary tool (http://www.weather.com) I was able to determine that the temperature range for Beaumont, CA (zip code: 92223) for the next 10-days is within a 2-3 degree range, not 15-20 degrees.

This is my outlook:

- One strike against Angelo for not disclosing the Desert issue.
- One strike against Angelo for his flippant attitude.
- Fifteen plus strikes against Jodie for being [intentionally] vague in the majority of her responses, lying, and fabricating excuses.

python princess said:
YesterdayJodie Todd Joel
i wont I will slander him all over the internet

:ack2:

You have got to be kidding me. I don't know if this just proves the fact that she is willing to lie to get her own way or if it proves her illiteracy?

This thread has ferreted out one person I would definitely not do business.

python princess said:
regardless you dont stop having contact with your customer

Neither of you have proven anything regarding the loss of communication. I agree, a good businessman does not put of his customers. But at the same time, I have to take your comment with a grain of salt due to the inconsistencies and contradictions in your previous posts.

Jodie, you really need to begin accepting responsibility for your own actions. This is pathetic.
 
Again, unless Im missing something or there is still more information to come to make all this make more sense, Im not sure how much you are really helping yourself wanting to become a ball python breeder and be very reputable. There are just too many things left open and unproven here. I have yet to see any real burden of proof, actually from either party, really. The op though just has too many loose ends and should really try to tie them up and get back on the right track, because in my eyes and the way Ive read this thread, nothing makes much logical sense.
 
regardless you dont stop having contact with your customer

With this I agree; however, based on everything that I've read (and I don't think that I missed anything), I really don't believe that he "stopped having contact with you". Your story has changed too many times.
 
Please - stop posting - you are not helping your cause.

You state your going to slander him all over the internet.
You needed the refund because of the heat.
You needed the money because your 7 yo couldn't wait.
You had buyers remorse because you were unaware of Deserts.
You wanted a refund when your resale didn't happen.
You were going to sell because you husband came home with new additions.
Needed a refund when your buyer backed out.
State seller is not a bad guy but blast him all over the internet all over FB and a BOI stating "you got screwed"

This does not look good.
 
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