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Wanted Western diamond back
- Thread starter nessa6804
- Start date
SymbaCat
Active member
how do you know she doesnt already have experience? and Im getting a diamond back for my first hot? I have no prior experience.You should probably get some experience under your belt, first.
Call it a hunch, lol.
And if you have no training/experience - I wish you all the best when you eventually get tagged. I hope you at least have excellent health insurance, and formal protocols ready to go when the time comes.
SymbaCat
Active member
None of that I just know how to handle snakesCall it a hunch, lol.
And if you have no training/experience - I wish you all the best when you eventually get tagged. I hope you at least have excellent health insurance, and formal protocols ready to go when the time comes.
, I get your worried but handling and keeping reticulated pythons I get is one thing but a western diamondback is nothing in comparison.
SymbaCat
Active member
ill Pray for you!None of that I just know how to handle snakes
None of that I just know how to handle snakes
Tf??
Chrisx1975
New member
Sorry to break it to you not everyone gets tagged. I started with Atrox and specs and taught myself - no one ever showed me anything. Now I have 6 hots and have never been tagged......or even close.Call it a hunch, lol.
And if you have no training/experience - I wish you all the best when you eventually get tagged. I hope you at least have excellent health insurance, and formal protocols ready to go when the time comes.
"I have 6 hots and have never been tagged."
What you should have said:
"I have 6 hots and have never been tagged - YET."
You can't make the 'never' claim until you either stop keeping entirely, or you die (from some other cause).
Finally -- Sorry to break it to you, but I never said every singe person gets tagged. The vast majority do, though. And being inexperienced significantly increases the likelihood that it's going to happen (to the point where it's almost guaranteed).
SymbaCat
Active member
but how do you know?
SymbaCat
Active member
I used to work with a 8foot retic before he passed and I never got bit unless it was feeding time and I never used tongs now i can only imgaine when feeding a venomous snake that you would just use tongs for safe distance, again i get your worried but please worry about your self please and thank you!
You're completely missing my point, lol. And just fyi - I'm not worried about you or telling you what to do. Frankly, idgaf if you get bit or not. I was saying that your logic is faulty, and that statistically you are almost guaranteed to get bit EVENTUALLY. I was also making the point that you can't go around bragging about never being tagged despite no real experience - when you're still new to the hobby. If you can still say the same many years down the line - when you stop keeping hots - THEN you can brag about having never been tagged despite no experience. But even then, you'd still be the exception. Not the rule.
Again, I'm not worried. I honestly don't care what you do. If you want a darwin award, have at it, lol. I'm just pointing out flaws in your logic, and stating what the statistics say - so other newbies who may see your posts don't get the wrong idea.
I repeat a previous remark: I hope you have good insurance and proper protocols for when you eventually get bit.
Research/Education. Experience.
Onas Exotics
Member
Goddamn I feel sorry for the OP’s post I expect people be experienced when they contact me for my crotes but I don’t need to jump on people’s ISO posts when I don’t even know them or their experience yet. And in some states like California you don’t need top of the line insurance and it doesn’t matter if it’s your animal or not they will cover the entire bill
So what you're saying is that we should prioritize people's egos... And when those people end up in the hospital due to their own negligence - we should pass the bill on to the tax payers? Am I understanding that correctly?
For the record, all I said in my first post was that the OP should probably get some experience first. It was nothing more than a recommendation (key words being "should" and "probably"). SymbaCat kept dragging shit out because he was more concerned with bragging about himself than he was about trying to understand what it was I was saying. But I digress. Have a good evening everyone.
Onas Exotics
Member
The only thing I see you prioritizing is assumptions and harassment on someone without asking them first.
SymbaCat
Active member
litterly thank you and its my gf's post that is trying to help me, and Im not trying to brag she just wants to help me get diamondback! itd be my 2nd hot
SymbaCat
Active member
OK ok ok, for the record I am not bragging or trying, I just dont get where you know me and know that Im only going to be another statistic. if you keep hots why arent you another statistic yet?
So again, you're saying we should prioritize the stroking of people's egos, and letting the taxpayers foot the bill for their negligence? You didn't actually answer my questions. Maybe start with that before you try to call me out for "assumptions and harassment."
Recommending that an obviously inexperienced person get experience before buying a deadly animal is a suggestion. It is not harrassment. Neither is pointing out faulty logic, like 'I'm a brand new keeper who has never been tagged, therefore the statistics are wrong.' Part of being a responsible member of the venomous community involves calling out blatant ignorance and inexperience. If that bothers you - well I frankly don't give a flying fuck.
Anyone asking for a payment plan on one of the cheapest animals in the hobby clearly has no experience, so I wasn't assuming. It's pretty easy to spot a complete noob. And fyi - he just told you that this would only be his 2nd hot, and the OP is his gf (who has no experience at all) helping him get one. So keep crying about my "assumptions and harassment." Dude just told you I was spot on, and he also admitted to being a liar. A few posts ago he had 6 hots. Now he supposedly has (or had) 1, and is looking for a 2nd. My bet is he's lying about that, too - because he knows no one is going to sell him one with no experience.
Before you respond - remember to answer my initial questions before you start in on the shit talk. The ones you conveniently ignored the last time I asked them. If you're not going to answer those 2 questions, then don't even waste your time responding.
"I just don't get where you know me."
It's very obvious you have no experience, bro. People with experience don't ask for payment plans on snakes that cost less than $100.
"...and know that Im only going to be another statistic."
Again, you misunderstood. Just because something is statistically almost guaranteed, does not mean it is guaranteed. How do I know you're most likely going to get bit if you keep venomous snakes -- because almost everyone does eventually. A person who never gets envenomated during their entire time keeping hots is a very rare occurrence. Yes, it happens. But it's the very rare exception, not the norm.
"If you keep hots why aren't you another statistic yet?"
Who said I wasn't? I've been keeping for a long time. I grew up around snakes (including venomous ones). During my keeping 'career' I have been tagged twice (only 1 needed AV), and grazed once during assist feeding a baby after a fresh shed (resulted in an extreme allergic reaction).
You may think I'm being an asshole, and admittedly I could have been more polite... But my points are all valid... Statistically speaking, you're almost guaranteed to get bit if you keep venomous snakes. Not having experience makes it even more likely to happen. So I hope you have good insurance, and proper protocols. It may save your life some day.
Be well.