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If they had come to steal my basketball hoop it would have ended a lot differently. I would probably have been killed in the hail of bullets LOL. But, someone has to stand up against this tyranny.
 
I'm sure the government would be tickled pink if permits were required for every thing we want to do. That is the ultimate form of control. You have to ask the government's permission to be permitted to do something. Which, of course, they can deny on a whim. And attach all kinds of hoops that you need to jump through in order to get your "permit". It's pretty much coming down to that you have to assume that anything you want to do may not be legal without the proper paper work involved. You virtually need to check with local authorities to see if what you are intending to do is legal or requires any special permits.

What kind of CRAP is this? Where did our RIGHTS go to? If you need permission to do something, it is NOT a right at all. If it can be denied or taken away from you, taxed, regulated or in any way limited based on what the government wants, it is NOT a right. So tell me, what exactly is it that we have left that is REALLY a right and not a government bestowed "privilege"?
 
Alert*** Alert***


Lemonade on the move. Watch for these little capitalist in your area.
Don't worry we will have a new federal department to deal with these little thugs soon.

CORALVILLE, Iowa -- Police in Coralville shut down at least three lemonade stands run by children over RAGBRAI weekend. According to Dustin Krutsinger, police shut down his four-year-old daughters stand after just 30 minutes. Krutsinger said the officer told his wife, “this isn’t the first time I’ve had to do this.”

Krutsinger said his daughter was selling lemonade for 25 cents a glass, and had made less than $5. According to the city of Coralville, 4-year-old Abigail Krutsinger was in violation of a two day ordinance, which required all vendors to have permits when RAGBRAI rolled into town.

Josh Schamberger, President of the Iowa City/Coralville Convention and Visitors Bureau, said the ordinance was passed to protect riders from possible health risks. Similar ordinances have been adopted in other host towns for years, he said. Now Schamberger said he fears that the work of 500 volunteers may be forgotten, and lemonade stand shut downs will be remembered.

Krutsinger said he understands why the city drew the line, but thinks they took it too far.

“If the line is drawn to the point where a four-year-old eight blocks away can’t sell a couple glasses of lemonade for 25 cents, than I think the line has been drawn at the wrong spot,” Krutsinger said.

A mother of six also said her kids had their lemonade stand on 18th Avenue shut down after just 20 minutes.

Bobbie Nelson said she laughed when a police officer told her that a permit to sell lemonade would cost $400.

"The kids were devastated," Nelson said. "They just cried and didn't understand why."

Nelson said her 4-year-old and 6-year-old sons were the driving force behind the stand.

She said they stayed up late to work on signs to advertise, and that they "had a hard time sleeping" the night before.

"They didn't know what was going on, they just thought their signs weren't good enough," Nelson said.

Coralville City Administrator Kelly Hayworth said the city was only trying regulate hundreds of vendors in order to stay up to code with the county health department.

"The question is who do you enforce it against, and who do you not?" said Hayworth.

A phone call to Coralville Police Cheif Barry Bedford wasn't immediately returned Tuesday.

Mitch Gross, a member of the Coralville City Council, said he believes the city will learn a lesson from this. Gross said he expects future ordinances to apply only for vendors who set out to "make a profit."

"It was never our intent to shut down kid's lemonade stands," Gross said. "We never really thought about it."
 
Got another out of control group of kids in Midway, Ga.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43769978/ns/us_news-weird_news/?GT1=43001

Three girls trying to raise money to go to a waterpark thought that a lemonade stand would do the trick. But then they met the long arm of the law — their local police chief.


The girls had started up their stand in Midway, Ga., when Police Chief Kelly Morningstar and a deputy drove by.

"They told us to shut it down," 10-year-old Skylar Roberts was quoted as saying by The Coastal Source news website.

"It’s kind of crazy that we couldn’t sell lemonade," added 14-year-old Casity Dixon. "It was fun, but we had to listen to the cops and shut it down."

Morningstar defended his action and received the support of Midway's mayor. "We had told them, 'We understand you guys are young, but still, you’re breaking the law, and we can’t let you do it anymore,'" Morningstar said. "The law is the law, and we have to be consistent with how we enforce the laws."

That city law requires a business and food permits ($50 a day), even if the stand was at the home of one of the girls.

Health issues were also a concern, Morningstar said. "We were not aware of how the lemonade was made, who made the lemonade, of what the lemonade was made with, so we acted accordingly by city ordinance,” he said.

News of the bust caused an outpouring of local support for the trio — and The Coastal Source said it had given the girls tickets to the waterpark.
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The War on Lemonade

Tuesday, August 2nd, 2011

Creating new little libertarians.

Police in Coralville shut down at least three lemonade stands run by children over RAGBRAI weekend. According to Dustin Krutsinger, police shut down his four-year-old daughters stand after just 30 minutes. Krutsinger said the officer told his wife, “this isn’t the first time I’ve had to do this.”

Krutsinger said his daughter was selling lemonade for 25 cents a glass, and had made less than $5. According to the city of Coralville, 4-year-old Abigail Krutsinger was in violation of a two day ordinance, which required all vendors to have permits when RAGBRAI rolled into town.

Josh Schamberger, President of the Iowa City/Coralville Convention and Visitors Bureau, said the ordinance was passed to protect riders from possible health risks . . .

“If the line is drawn to the point where a four-year-old eight blocks away can’t sell a couple glasses of lemonade for 25 cents, than I think the line has been drawn at the wrong spot,” Krutsinger said.

A mother of six also said her kids had their lemonade stand on 18th Avenue shut down after just 20 minutes.

Bobbie Nelson said she laughed when a police officer told her that a permit to sell lemonade would cost $400.

“The kids were devastated,” Nelson said. “They just cried and didn’t understand why.”
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WOW.. just WOW!!! Seriously.. they are punishing the kids that aren't miscreants.. WTF..

that basketball one ticked me off to watch.. as he pointed out, she bold faced lied to him..

now all those local kids can make some meth.. lol.. since that doesn't seem to be as big of a concern for them there.. too busy busting those nasty girl scouts..

lol.. just sad.
 
June 17, 2011 - A kids lemonade stand was shut down and fined $500 by Montgomery County officials. WUSA reports.


Kids raising money for cancer. Up yours Bethesda, Maryland
 
11 Year-Old Girl Sent to Criminal Court for Wearing Too Much Perfume in Class, $150 Fine!




Criminal tickets for bad behavior in school for children as young as six.
 
How big of a douche do you need to be to be the cop to shut down a lemonade stand. That and you would think if anything that guys basketball hoop would be grandfathered in if it violated some clause since he said it had been there 60 years.
 
In parts of my fine city, there are far more people selling crack than lemonade. Everyone knows exactly where they are. Maybe some of these lemonade-cops could wander down there and slap a fine on them. Of course, the 10 year old girls aren't carrying guns, and the crack dealers won't offer the cops a cool, refreshing beverage.
I must add that, in general, I respect any man/woman who makes their living protecting others. There are just a few on the fringe...


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“We had told them, we understand you guys are young, but still, you’re breaking the law, and we can’t let you do it anymore,” Midway Police Chief Kelly Morningstar explained. “The law is the law, and we have to be consistent with how we enforce the laws.”

The girls needed a business license, peddler's permit and food permit to operate, even on residential property. The permits cost $50 a day or $180 per year.
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How about you use a little common sense, Chief!
Police ramp up on their nationwide crackdown of illegal lemonade stand enterprising. 'We were not aware of how the lemonade was made, who made the lemonade, of what the lemonade was made with,' says police chief in Midway, Ga.
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KELLI MORNINGSTAR

Chief of Police

10490 E. Oglethope Highway

Midway, Georgia 31320

Phone: (912) 880.1000

Give the Chief a call :) Let her know how you feel.
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While I can understand why there's inspections on food products... it's a way overboard to shut down lemonade stands. I mean.. I understand the legality of "What if someone gets sick off the lemonade?" but it's just stupid.

It's not the cops... it's going to be the offices telling the individual cops to shut down any lemonade stands. When they get told by the higher ups, "Hey, we can't have these kids selling homemade food products", then they have to do what they're told.

But it's ridiculous and the officials need to practice some common sense with this. Around here, for a while they were shutting down EVERY BBQ stand, unless they had the whole legal permits, inspections, etc etc. That didn't last too long, and now the BBQ stands are all back, none inspected, none permitted. People understand around here... if you buy a BBQ chicken and it's bad and you get sick... you don't go back there and you tell all your friends and the BBQ stand goes out of business.

Speaking of officials ripping off the public... I just tried to get my overpayment to my morgage company back from the "Unclaimed Funds of the State of Florida". The morgage company screwed me over by sending the funds to the state, even though I was sending them all the ridiculous amount of paperwork they asked for. Once I started dealing with the State, they were oh-so-reasonable, just sending me paperwork and lists of stuff to send to them. Once I'd done all they asked... they sent me MORE paperwork, saying that now I have to get the three sons of my late husband to sign the paperwork, because THEY get half of the money! I called and explained this money was overpaid AFTER my husband died... the boys didn't pay it, they didn't live here... etc etc. The house is now in MY name... after the state gave(when my husband died) half interest in it to the boys.... who again, did not live here, didn't pay for any of it. So now... I can either jump through all the hoops, giving the boys half the overpayment... for the State to tell me I now need to do a bunch MORE paperwork and such, giving me less of the money that *I* overpaid in the first place! I finally told them it was obvious they have NO intention of paying me MY money back, and that they can kiss my butt, I'm not doing a single bit more work for nothing.

The State is out to screw you over. It's not just the Feds, it's the State too. It's crazy. Anyone who TRIES to better their situation(opening a business, even if it's just a lemonade stand or BBQ) gets punished by strict regulations, permitting systems that are impossible to get through and taxes that mean you'd make little to nothing when all is said and done. It's so much easier to just go work for someone else, collect a pittance of a paycheck and sit at home like a sheep. This country is FORCING the people to become sheep.
 
OK, so this next video isn't kids but activists making a point about how absurd some of these laws are. So they decided to have a lemonade stand.

They picked the Capitol grounds and knew they would eventually be arrested.

But I really think the most interesting part of this video comes after the arrests and the interview with the police officer.

The officer stated its not his fault, blame the lawmakers. He just enforces the law. If segregation was in place (even with being a black police officer ) he would enforce that law. That it is his job.

This is really lost on me how anyone can state such a thing. Every Oath of office that I can think of for law enforcement is preempted in the Oath itself that they will uphold the Constitution. That is then followed by upholding the laws of the state.

I'm not stating that this situation is on that same field but I do think a lack of common sense is missing. If law enforcement will blindly follow any law such as human rights violations because it is their job, I don't have high hopes that many would uphold the Constitution over any order or new law that might threaten those rights. That part I find troubling.

Anyway, the activists were asking to be arrested. It should come as no surprise that they were. I think though it should also highlight the absurd laws and what the children in the early videos have experienced.

 
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