What is this? Fire? Something else?

[Rob J]

This is my new PetSmart find. Only question is...what the hell is it? It appears to be het pied due to the train tracks but as we all know, normals can have them too. But, check out the color, blushing and fading. Possible fire? Something else maybe? What do you guys think?

 

[snakesRkewl]

without seeing the head it's hard to say if it's a fire for sure, but it does resemble one.

 

[Rob J]

Here are a couple more pics so you can see the head. Pardon the terrible lighting in the kitchen.

 

[GREGORY J HALL]

Did you buy it as a fire?? if not got to prove out as a black eyed producer looks like a low grade fire

 

[Rob J]

No we didn't buy it as a fire. It was a PetSmart find.

 

[GREGORY J HALL]

ok well there is no telling then could be couldnt be does it have a long tail stripe??

 

[Rob J]

Here is her tail stripe.

 

[Rob J]

Here's another pic.

 

[GREGORY J HALL]

Ok buy a fire from a proven line breed it and see if u get some black eyes! Good luck

 

[Rob J]

So what are some other opinions?

 

[Shadera]

You won't know for sure until you put in the years growing her up, and breeding her out. Who knows, could just be a really nice normal.

 

[bones93]

Nice find...Either way it would be worth it to mess around with. Good looking snake for sure

 

[ClarkT]

Looks like a fire to me. I would absolutely pair her with a fire.

 

[HurQleys Herps]

Appears to have more of a Vanilla look to me. Fires usually lack some pattern and have that clean yellow tan color. Watch it age and see if it gets lighter...

 

[Focal]

I agree, I'd lean more towards a vanilla than fire, but that wouldn't stop me from breeding it to a fire first.

 

[Rob J]

Thanks for the responses folks. Were going to pair her with both a fire and a vanilla when the time comes and see if anything happens.

 

[Shadera]

^ Agreed. If it were me, I'd use a really nice super pastel on her and go from there.

Or, you could use a super fire or super vanilla male. All your offspring would be either vanillas, or fires. If you get BELs (black eyes, not blue eyes) you know you've got something in the fire complex. If you get super vanillas, she's vanilla.

Or something like that.

 

[Rob J]

That all makes perfect sense. I have a Super Citrus Pastel male that I can put to her when the time comes.

 

[Rob J]

OK so here are some post shed pics I took with my normal hatchling. Any opinions on what it could be? Another thing I've noticed is that it has white in the upper head bands on both side in the same spot!?!?! Odd I thought.

 

[jasballs]

Not a vanilla or a fire. I'd put a yellow belly male to that girl