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joseydiann said:
Have to talk to big bad miss Deb about that one, guess I'm not pro enough or one of those best breeders, she had to get rather nasty and rude instead of answering the question or could have kept her crappy comment to herself. I don't remember asking her to buy a snake from me but yeah ya know..

I kinda thought it was simple question too, in fact I do believe I've seen it asked about 30 other times on this Forum.. Have a look, wonder if she had the same rude comment on their "same" question?!
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Drama Queen much? If it's that bad, just leave. No need for the big dramatic scene.

There is much to be gleaned just from web searches, reading other breeder's sites and blogs, and studying the questions and answers on forums.

Deb wasn't being nasty, she was being honest. How many people do you think would buy hets from someone who has been into balls for at least a year and doesn't know what offspring a simple cross would yield? Punnet squares are great tools, as are the several genetics calculators out there.
 
i know you didnt mean your exact question but i could not resist posting it.

but i do understand that people get tired of typing the same stuff out over and over, i have answered the same stuff tons of times too...

i have had questions about breeding x to x is first thing i do is try the search box i just type what im looking for like spider x pastel normally you find enough to get your asnwer.
 
Utta said:
Im only going to say this: we all, at some point, had no idea what that would make. Deb, you may have chosen google to seek your answer, amanda choice the advice of her friends.
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Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. TEACH a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime. :thumbsup:

** My name is Deborah.:dgrin:
 
1st, sorry! Thought you didn't mind being called Deb.

2nd, im not saying I don't agree, but isn't this the same thing? Were fishing, but she's watching us. Learn by sight? :shrug01:
 
Tyler i totally agree, i thought this site was about meeting and helping people if this is how it is withDrama Queen much? If it's that bad, just leave. No need for the big dramatic scene.

joseydian if you have any questions feel free to email me i am always willing to help uot a fellow herper including newbies. craig [email protected]
 
Wow..y'all really took this out of context. She asked, I answered, she didn't like my answer and performed for attention and lo and behold everyone (that I expected) rushed to play MOD on my answers.:ack2:

As I said before, this is how I answer questions. It is not meant to be "mean" but I am not responsible for how someone else's "internal white noise" interpretes or projects into my answers.

The forum where I mod in is encouraged and EXPECTED to do the research and I am not shy about telling them that or (if they are younger) saying something like, "The search button is your friend, use it." However, Amanda is not a child, so I didn't feel the need to sugarcoat anything. She's breeding NOW...she should have had this known before she started, IMO.

The other answers may be more "soft" but I don't get called MEAN anywhere but HERE so it makes me wonder what the motive behind this drama is:rolleyes:.

If Amanda is so thin-skinned that she can't simply pass over advice or ignore it (as she suggested I do if I have nothing "nice" to say...then perhaps breeding isn't for her?:ack2: But that's not my judgement to make, any moron or idiot can breed, it's not a rocket science (see, I'm doing it):rofl:. But it does take work and not just "asking a question once you have already started!":eek:
 
"called mean" - implies that I was being intentionally cruel, and being "nice" means babying up someone.

Yet, you all forget, she said, "You know how I feel about you." This implies that no matter WHAT I said, she would not have liked it. LOL
 
Put my proven male with a proven female ( same bread last year ) about 2-3 weeks ago.. they didn't start getting interested till today. sometimes it takes a while...
 
Sometimes when I pose questions, it is also to get other people's opinions on the subject, not just the easy answer. This often opens up a friendly chat about other people's opinions, choices, experiences etc... and can be a valuable tool to people like me that don't know everything. I think most people like to talk about their hobbies.
 
Well, she succeeded in stimulating discussion...even if it wasn't with her opening post :shootfoot.

It wasn't exactly a thought provoking question...and, I agree with Deborah, in that if Amanda is already actively trying to breed her snakes, she should probably already have considered the outcomes. I'm one that gets tired of answering the same question month after month, year after year. Basic genetics discussions are common, and there are a number of genetics calculators that are mentioned on a regular basis. I don't remember details, but it sure seems that there is a history between those two (I think I remember some karma complaints, and general claws out kind of stuff). Sadly, past squabbles aren't always left in the past, and one side or the other can rekindle things pretty easily - purposely, or not.
 
I would agree that it can be tiring answering questions over and over Harold, but there are a lot of people not so computer savy or may not know where to look so they ask the question. I look at it as a newbie as being the future of the hobby they can not learn if we do not teach. And if we do not teach we are bound to make the same mistakes and look at the industry in a whole with all the reptile bans going on. We are quick to preach to people about resposible ownership and in the same breath we turn them away, and that is not what the reptile industry needs at this point, to all reading remember USARKS logo United We Stand. thats the only way for this industry and or hobby to survive. Thanks for hearing me out.
 
I agree, it does get tiresome to answer the same questions over and over. When I'm not in the mood to answer a question, I back out of the thread and let someone else answer the question. It doesn't do any good to get my knickers in a twist over a question when there will ALWAYS be newbies with basic questions. Without newbies with questions, our hobby and or sales will not prosper.

Like Craig said above me, I think it is important to teach newbies. This is good for the animals and for breeders. If a newbie does not feel comfortable in a forum, they will go elsewhere. This does not help the forum or the breeders that the newbie may buy from in the future. We can help support our favorite forums by also supporting it's members. Without members/traffic, sponsors won't pay for ads which help keep forums up and running.

I do not visit many other forums because I don't feel comfortable with constant bickering and snarkiness.
 
Not everyone is so touchy feely. :shrug01:

Wouldn't the world just SUCK if we all agreed all the time?
 
Melinda said:
I agree, it does get tiresome to answer the same questions over and over. When I'm not in the mood to answer a question, I back out of the thread and let someone else answer the question. It doesn't do any good to get my knickers in a twist over a question when there will ALWAYS be newbies with basic questions. Without newbies with questions, our hobby and or sales will not prosper.

Like Craig said above me, I think it is important to teach newbies. This is good for the animals and for breeders. If a newbie does not feel comfortable in a forum, they will go elsewhere. This does not help the forum or the breeders that the newbie may buy from in the future. We can help support our favorite forums by also supporting it's members. Without members/traffic, sponsors won't pay for ads which help keep forums up and running.

I do not visit many other forums because I don't feel comfortable with constant bickering and snarkiness.
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I understand what you are saying, let me say this. I personally wouldn't be one to sell her an animal. I was appalled that she was breeding an older seriously underweight male that wasn't eating, apparently without concern for his health (I wonder who sold him to her :shrug01:).

But some people need those kinds of customers or just don't care, as long as they make a buck. :shrug01:

Personally, I didn't consider her a noob, she's been around long enough to know that she's not always going to get a "sweet" answer (she doesn't always give a sweet answer either..but some people love drama and always fall for it).

So if everyone can return to answering and evaluating their OWN posts and stop trying to make other people conform to unrealistic expectations of how people should respond to posts when no rules were broken and no one was actually RUDE..it would be appreciated. :rolleyes:
 
dont get me wrong but i thought this was a forum for pros and novice alike. so maybe she was jumping in on a breeding project but so what. she came here to get answers and instead got chewed a new one. all because your sick of hearing it. it is a simple question to answer! whats so hard about just given a simple answer and directing her to a good gene site?(like bhb they have vids on this) instead of attacking her for trying to find out whats up. you get more bees with honey then vinger. frankly im disappointed i thought this site was here to help.
 
Ha and I see a few of you are no better than her, if you are tired of seeing questions or the same kinds of questions over and over maybe this site should be for the pros only, lets lock all the new comers out and throw away the newbies trying to learn something, that will solve your problem. OR maybe YOU should avoid those posts and questions if they bother you so much???

As for those of you that do care and would like to answer a few questions, please email me and let me know so I can ask you, because as I said I don't care to "learn" on HERE anymore! :D

Oh and yes, I can search for hours and read MANY sites to get information, however it is the same as care sheets, I can look up 10 different ones and 8 of them be totally different and have false information.
I for one like to ask people who I know cares for many snakes daily and have for years, I like to talk with people NOT just read info that could have been posted by someone who has no idea what they are talking about, I'd like to do it right..
BUT that's just me!

And "Deb" this is my thread I made it, anyone is welcome to stay right here and post all day long if they'd like, no one has to go back to "their OWN posts"
 
She got chewed a new one? Really?

As far as being tired of responding to the same old questions, it's a little different when they come from a newbie...but, regardless, as I said in a PM to somebody, if I don't feel like answering them again, I close the thread and leave it for somebody else.

The temper tantrums are a bit ridiculous - how old are you?
You're acting like the little kid at the playground that has a hissy fit and storms off...and when nobody came to get you, you came back, stamped your feet some more, and said I mean it, I'm not gonna play with you guys.
 
LoL.. And just WHAT is a newbie to YOU?

I have only owned snakes for a few months, other reptiles YES I have many but yeah I am still "new" to snakes and their genetics..

"The temper tantrums are a bit ridiculous" Really, where? I'm yet to see people throwing temper tantrums!

The only thing I find ridiculous here is the fact that you and a few others don't see a thing wrong with her very first post to my question, that is pretty pathetic to be honest.

You really don't think it was a little rude and uncalled for? The whole "needs to be spoon fed comment" or the "I'd never buy a het from you"....?
Hum again I didn't say I was selling snakes and I didn't ask her to buy anything from me, not only that but my question was answered already and she seen that!!! So what was the point? Oh that's right it was to insult me, make me look bad, and start drama..

It was RUDE and uncalled for plain and simple!!!
But wait I'm not supposed to say anything, I'm wasn't supposed to reply to the insults or explain or stand up for myself.

"could have been found by a 5 year old" Sound a little rude and insulting to you?
 
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