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In my personal collection I do not keep any reptiles that tend to be of the ''tude/pissy/nasty/strikey" type at all. My reptiles are utilized in educational showings and also handled by my children too. Last thing I need is to keep a reptile in my home that is like this. [ in rescue I do and have worked with reptiles like this though, but not in my personal collection at all] The first thing I ever ask when looking to purchase a reptile for personal collection is .. "What is the "tame" level of the reptile?" I usually go on to further explain exactly why I have asked such a question also. If the responce to my question comes back that the reptile is indeed not "tame". Then I decline from obtaining the reptile, as it is not what I am looking for at all. Don't get me wrong here though.. Working with reptiles I have taken my fair share of "tudes and strikes" as well as bites also. I just don't want to have to deal with such on a daily basis is all in my collection.
On the other hand if I am told that the reptile is "tame" and handable , then I will further seek to obtain it.
Here's where the problem comes in..
Back in June I inquired on a Coastal x Jungle Carpet Python
[ yeah I know what their "temps" are like..and could wait forever if need be to obtain one that just happened to be on the "tame" side even] I already have a male who is "tame" even, and was looking for a mate for him if I came across one that was "tame" is all. I received a responce which stated that the snake was indeed "tame and handable". The answer even went into more depth to state that she had been a "tame/handable" snake , then had a clutch and had become VERY MEAN right after such..BUT was now "tame and handable". I know the person that was offering the snake for sale and trusted his word even more so due to such. So I paid for the snake via paypal on that day, June 15th 2002. Shipment was to take place something like two days later.
I never received an email telling me that the snake had not been shipped on such date, nor any other correspondence either relative to such. When I finally got in touch and got a responce it was the ole .. busy at work thing.. will ship def next wednesday. That of course never happened either...reason this time.. was high tenps. I'll allow that even as temps were high. BUt weeks later and no responce to my calls, emails, pm,s etc and still no snake or word on when it would be coming.. I went and contacted someone in the sellers area and asked them to make a visit to their work to find out what exactly was going on with the snake and why hasn't it been shipped as yet ? I was told it would be shipped the next day along with every excuse as to why no correspondence had taken place at all in regards to the matter.
It was shipped and received this time as stated it would be. Of course the box was just about ready to bottom out due to it not being properly taped up..and of course the snake let me know right away that it is far from "tame" ..UGH. This snake has got one heck of a MEAN streak of an attitude going for it ! Not just your basic .."I'm a lil pissy from being shipped atm 'tude either. She was trying her damndest to strike through the pillowcase..hissing up a storm [ she can put my huge burms to pity in that area even lol]. and "puffing" up big time ! I decided to wait until my husband got home to open the case due to this.
When we went to open the case and get her settled into a quarantine cage...I got tagged big time by her ..arghh.
As far as this snake is concerned I can honestly say that I am far from thrilled with her even the slightest bit !
The person I bought her from is not answering their phone, emails, or pms even. I have also not been able to find them ol .. even at a site where we both are admins of. When I have asked around as to whether anyone has seen or heard from this person.. I have found that there are others that are having problems with such things as contacting the person or getting replies from him also in relation to reptile things. I had the person I had sent to their work pass a message to him alaso even on what took place upon receipt of the snake....and have gotten no reply from him as yet what so ever. The snake came in on Tuesday.. I passed the message on Tuesday also. I know the message has been delivered too even. This person has a cell phone and can use such to contact me even.. no long distance charge for such even.
This is a coastal x jungle carpet python that is female and 8' in length with a great girth. So she's not a lil thing to deal with even. Definately not something I am happy with at all atm.
Soo what would you do ?
Oh the person is Tom HUil of TC Serpents btw. Located in the Philly area of PA.
 
Well since your asking, I think there are two routes you can choose. The first would be to continue and try to get a hold of the seller, if in fact you do, you can try and get a refund since the animal was misrepresented. However, since you have had no luck corresponding with them and that it took forever to get the snake in the first place.....I would probably re-sell it. Hold the animal for a quarantine period, make sure that it is healthy and eating, then post it for sale. If you do get in touch with this seller, they are going to want you to ship the animal back before you get your refund. Due to how poorly this transaction has already gone, I would be reluctant to send the animal back for the fear of never receiving my money back.

Just my .02

Dennis Gulla
 
That sucks Lori!
Too many people are against us having reptiles for us with reptiles to be screwing each other over!
I'm fairly new to the hobby but it seems to be common practice for a lot of guys to lie before the sale and then hide after they have your money.
It is wrong and every honest person in this industry should stick together and force these weasles to be 100% honest or find another way to steal other peoples hard earned cash.
If I were you Lori I would do everything in my power to get my money back and return his misrepresented snake.
If you buy ANYTHING and it is not EXACTLY what you are lead to believe it is, you have every right to return it!
Just my opinion.

Jimmy Green
 
I would have to side with everything Jimmy said. If you can't trust the people in the reptile world than what are we going to do. Thxs for the heads up on this it will be helpfull if I know of anyone looking for a jungle f/m I will direct them to you.
 
The problem with trying to get your money back is that you'll have to send the snake back first, and then wait and wonder as to whether you'll ever be seeing that money!  No, I think I would handle it a different way.

You could either sell it as is wihtout any further delay, and the buy yourself another to take her place.  You'll probably lose money on that transaction, though.  You could also just keep her, knowing the perils of her temperment, breed her, and THEN sell her after having gotten the babies to raise or sell as you see fit.  Then, if you lose a little money on her, at least you'll have the money from those babies to absorb the shortage.

Just my thoughts.  Thanks for the heads up on Mr. Hill.
 
Hey Lori,


            You do have some options here .... For one I think you said you sent the money via PAYPAL.  The first thing you should do is make a complaint with them and let them know that the seller misrepresented the animal, then see if it is possible to get your money back thru them, although too much time may have elapsed to do this, but it would be worth a shot.  The second option would be to make a complaint on the board it was posted on, ie ... kingsnake.com, faunaclassified etc.  Most boards have sections where they take and sometimes even act on complaints posted by less than honest sellers.  Also just to play devils advocate for a moment .... you mentioned you had passed on a message to Tom but do you know if that message was received ?   From the sound of things it does sound like the person is trying to avoid you which in itself is an addmission of guilt.  I would continue to try and contact this person and let them know via voice mails and emails that you wont take this lying down and if all else fails you could also file a complaint with Tom's internet server, letting them know he is conducting illegal activity thru them and of course if you get no satisfaction you can also file a complaint with the FBI for internet fraud.  And I could be wrong but didn't someone rip you off on a iguana earlier this year ?  Get references and check people out a little more before you throw money their way.  You seem like a very nice person that just does business with the wrong people.  Be careful and good luck !

Gary Walsch
Sunshine State Reptiles
 
Gary.. NOPE ..don't think that was me your thinking of in relation to the Iguana. The only iguanas I deal with are in rescue/rehab..too many of them to be buying em . As it is I usually never have less than 5 of them available for adoption here even. AND I do not send em out until such time that their shipping charges have been paid for also. Have been "ripped" before when I did that even.

As for this carpet. I think we now know exactly just why we are being avoided in relation to the snake from TC. Here's past of the post that I made on the forum that I bought it off of ...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I let her "settle" in for a few days before attempting to evaluate her health etc.  
Upon evaluating her this is what has been found...

The snake has scale rot on the underbelly, in multiple areas.

The snake has blistering also, on it's side.

The snake has retained shed in various places of it's body. There is not a ton of it, but none the less it is there.  

The snake also seems to have a "lump" on it also. { I have not been able to "check" such out CLOSELY as yet to conclude exactly what this is btw.}

Once the snake "eliminates" I can also get a mic on it too to check for parasites also.  

The snake is being HIGHLY quarantined at this time.

At NO time in any correspondance with TC were any of these items related to the negative aspects of this snake related to me at all by him. If the snake is unhealthy, as this one appears to be, then TC should have related such to me!  
There may be more going on with the snake but I have a call into someone I know that has TONS of experience dealing with NASTY tempered snakes, more so than I do. Hopefully they will be able to assist me in further checking out the snake and what needs to be done with it healthwise as well as assisting me in doing such to bring this snake's health back to where it should be also.  
I am NOT in the usual mode to go and pay funds for the RESCUEs/REHABS which I take in here at all. This snake is definately a RESCUE/REHAB in my eyes ! </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Soo.. I doubt that we will be jhearing from Tom Hill at all in relation to this snake now, and also the health of the snake is most likely why even. Guess we'll be keeping this snake for awhile and "rehabbing" it for the health issues. Maybe she will "calm" down some for us at that point even. Also by that time we will have spent some funds further on her than we had expected and shall plan on breeding her at a later date , if not only to try and recoup some of the loss' we shall be taking on the snake in getting it healthy.
THANX for the input !
 
Hello,

Just for the record.

I have never done business with this individual so I have no input there.

But I didn't want there to be any confusion.

I post as TC Reptile or TC on the forums I visit.

I have NO affiliation with Tom Hill OR TC Serpents.

Again, no opinion either way as I have not done business with this gentleman.

Just didn't want to get us mixed up.

Thanks,
Tom Chambers
TC Reptile
Reseda, Ca.
 
Maybe the snake is in a bad mood because of all the health issues. That guy's a scumbag for sending out a snake in that condition.
 
meretseger.. You really need to add your full name on your posting here. That is the rule. If not your posts will be deleted by the webslave.
On another note...Yeah hopefully that is the case though...time will tell now.
Tom.. I didn't even think to point that out that your NOT this person.
 
Now that my computer is finally up and I've recieved several phone calls about this post lets get a few things straight right now! At no time since the snake was sent have I recieved any phone calls from Lori. Second thing, when I sold this snake to Lori I had only seen it in an enclosure at a friends house that I was selling her for. I even told Lori that I had not personally handled the snake when she inquired. This info on tempermant was relayed by me from him. When it was shipped he brought it to me boxed. I just dropped it off to another friend that works at the USPS. After recieving phone calls about this post I called the person who was selling these and left a message. I am currently waiting to hear back to get Lori her money back. I posted these for someone else and yes I should have took the time to go over them closely, but this person has always had nice reptiles and therefore I trusted him. People out there who have done buisiness with me in the past know that MY reptiles are in great shape and usually above average. I do think Lori should have phoned me with these concerns before ripping me here. She has my home, my cell, and my work number, but no calls came in. My name is being dragged through the mudd for something I was not aware of and yes I should have been but like I said I trusted this person. I did not misrepresent this animal! I relayed the info exactly how I was told. I told Lori I wouldn't ship in the extreme temps and then 2 weeks later went to Florida, temps were still high. And then the Tuesday following my return which was the Friday prior she recieved the snake.
AGAIN I am going to make sure Lori gets her money back, but she should have spoke to me and let me get this straight before making it sound like my animals are not cared for. Anyone who has been to my home has seen that my reptiles get treated with tender loving care. Heck they eat better than me.
Lori, Please call me! I tried to call you, but got no answer. Caller ID huh? I want to take care of this because I don't need my name going through the mudd.
 
Oh and to the idiot who called me a scumbag-- Get the facts before you start that crap.
 
Lori, I have had several hundred carpet pythons of all localities and ages. I will tell you this, with 99.99% of them they become totally docile after simply being left alone and fed frozen thawed food for a few weeks to a few months depending on the animal. Evan Stahl
 
One more addition to my previous post. I had a friend the same friend that came to my store email Lori when I got back from Fla to tell her that I was shipping the snake out because my computer was down. She knew it was down before she started this thread! I just check both of my email boxes with nothing from her and she said she sent me PM's, well nothing at the forum that we are both administrators at. If she had called we could have straightened this mess out, but she made no attempt. And she's been online for a little today, and has been here and at our forum, but still won't acknowledge my attempts to contact her. hmmm.
 
Weell it's about time ! For the record I am NOT the only person who has been trying to get in touch with you for awhile now even. I have spoken to others that have been having the same problem ..seems they aren't able to get in touch with you at all ..for awhile even. I'll track down some of the pms I have related to this also and post em up even np.
[bAND[/b] I have called your cell # multitude of times..I get the same thing I got back in April when I tried to reach you in regards to just why you weren't where you said you would be for us to meet up the day I came down to pick up 2 rescues from you that you had contacted me in regards to on a set date etc.. message machine on the celly .. . Seeing as you don't return the calls from the messages that are left for you on it.. to this day even from back in April.. why would anyone bother to leave yet another message for you ? That was a round trip of 14 hours for me and not even the most common courtesy to make a call , send an email or pm even to let me know that you wouldn't be around as planned. I even called home to make sure that you hadn't left a message to the affect of wtf was going on and that you wouldn't be around.
AGAIN.. I have called your cell MULTIPLE times and no answer. As for your home #.. hardly ever does someone answer it and if they do it is usually your [sister?] and she says that you will call back but ya don't. WHY should anyone have to spend their whole time trying to track you down at all ?
For the record here is the email that you sent in regards to the handability of the snake in question here...note that it is from you and has absolutely no "hint" that you are "passing on info" that was given to you.. As you have related here that the handability issue was second hand knowledge to you

This is the email that I inquired of the snake...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From:   LORI Kehoe <[email protected]>  
Reply-To:   [email protected]  
To:   [email protected]  
Date:   Fri, 14 Jun 2002 21:17:23 -0700 (PDT)  
Hey TC.

How's the temperament on this one ? If it's not a strikey.. I'll take it
from him. I hate delaing with snakes that just live to strike at me lol.
I get enough of that crap in rescue and rehab lol. Just let me know is all
please.

LORI</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From:   Thomas Hill <[email protected]>  
Reply-To:   [email protected]  
To:   [email protected]  
Subject:   Jungle X Coastal  
Date:   Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:47:25 -0700 (PDT)  
Lori,
This one was sweet until after the eggs were laid. She was then mean as
can be. That was a month ago. She has began to calm down and is actually
handleable again. If you still want her hit my PayPal and she is yours.
Talk to you later,
~~T.C.~~</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Here's a pm copy that i sent to someone that lives near ya asking for assistamce with the matter..

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(No subject) on: Jul 28th, 2002, 4:17am

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Hey there ! What's going on with TC ? You got any clue ? I know he lives near ya sommewhere and you said in a post that you have seen him around at the petco working also. I bought a jungle carpet cross from him like 6 weeks ago.. Paid him the day of buying via paypal also ..which was June 15th.. and still have as yet to receive the snake at all. He said he was shipping out and gave me a date of thursday that week to ship and then never even told me he didnt ship it at all.. then he said definately shipping the next week.. got an email saying temps too high to ship .. and he would ship when it cooled down a bit.. it has done that for awhile now yet no snake. Could ya see if he'll answer you as to WTF is going on with shipping this snake to me please ? TYIA  </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

That one was sent to the person once I realized/remembered that they live near ya .

Here's another one also...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Re: TC on: Jul 28th, 2002, 4:25am

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Hey there;
I know I have seen TC around the forums here as of lately. I also know he had gone away for like 2 weeks too. BUT is back now even. I purchased a carpet cross jungle python from him back in June on the 15th..made payment to him via paypal on that date and he failed to ship first time he said he was going to.. didn't even notify me that he was not going to ship either that day. Then he said would ship the next week.. that didnt take place.. he didnt want to ship due to weather being hot.. wait for cool down.. It has been cool for awhile now.. all my shipments have gone np even for like a month now far as weather is concerned.
Basically he hasn't rendered the snake purchased at all yet.. seems to be avoiding my questions regarding such also now.. sent him a pm and posted for him too on this on the site..
Could ya please find out what is going on for me if ya can ? I would hate to have to place a thing with paypal stating that he was a non shipper for the goods purchased ya know.. buit will if I have to.
TYIA

LORI  </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


Here's the responce that i got in regards to that first one...
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will do on: Jul 28th, 2002, 7:14am

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Lori

  I have No *&!  idea what is up with him.  I tried calling him yesterday. No answer or his phone was turned off (just off not shut down)  .  I know you paid for the snake he told me that.  I cannt believe he has not wrote you.  or anything!!!  Man i would be Pissed off  big time.   He also has my [edited out]  .  if i dont get an anwer on his phone.  I guess Im gonna have pay the bum a visit at his house.  Sorry i dont have any answers for ya.  I  will find out what i can and let you know what the heck is up.  gonna have to give him a size 12 in the butt.   </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

And here's the second message /answer from that first one also.. after TC was contacted by this person...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It s being sent tomorrow on: Jul 28th, 2002, 1:28pm

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 Lori

  I went and talked to TC today.  He told me his dsl is out of whack and hasnt been able to get online.  as why he just didnt call you or me(to relay a message)?  I dont know.  But he said he is gonna send it out tomorrow.  it will be coming USPS.  do me a fav when you get let me know.  and if there is any comments about the snake also let me know cause i will call him and tell him personally.  i usually dont get home till 5 -7 but i check my mail alot and am online almost always after 9<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0.  oh yeah i will call him tomorrow to ask him if he got a tracking #.  sorry about this whole mess it would have been easier if someone not mentioning names would have made 1 phone call.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Here's the naswer from the second person from my contacting them...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Re: TC on: Jul 28th, 2002, 2:43pm

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I have not spoken or im'd with TC in a long time.  Not sure what is going on...  He hasn't even been in the chat sessions.

I am actually waiting for something from him as well.

Let me know if you hear anything.  </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>


Guess I wasn't the only person who had been trying to get in touch for something that should have been taken care of by TC. NOR was I the only one who was having problems getting in touch with him either as well.

Oh and also.. Knowing this ..[ another one of them pm's from the first person]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Re: It s being sent tomorrow on: Jul 29th, 2002, 8<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>3pm

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he had a tracking # at his home.   but he said its guaranted to delivery before 3<img src="http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 pm.   i will try to remember to call him later to get #.    </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

take this into account also.. It is NOT this person's responsibility to send me the tracking # [ they never did btw ] AND I also never received the # from TC either...to this date, but that is past info now anyway.

YET another one from the first person...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey on: Jul 30th, 2002, 10:27pm

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Lori

 I tried calling our friend but his phone was off again.   how is the snake?   </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Hmm.. 2 days later and still noone is able to get in touch with TC at all...


YEt another one...[from first person ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ive been tring to get ahold of Tom on: Today at 9:22am

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Lori

 I have been tring to get Tom.  I seen your post at boi.   last night i been in touch with another friend of toms telling him to call him at home since i dont have his home phone #.  I been calling his cell to no avail.   I didnt realize you wanted to return the snake or i would have told him that the other day (friday).   I still dont know if he has internet access as of yet.  </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Ah huh...

FINALLY.. A responce from TC sent directly to me. [Just got it in my box while I was posting this all up here...

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What the hell is going on? Why haven't you called me instead of defaming me. You knew I was selling the snake for someone else. If I had known of the problems I would not have sent it to you. I had no reason to distrust him because I have seen nothing but quality at the guys house. I will get your money back, but you need to chill because you knew this was not one of mine!  

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~~~T.C.~~~</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

For the record here is the reply I am sending TC also..

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You are the one selling the snake. you are the one that related it to be handable, you are the one that shipped it out.. Don't try to make excuses for what has taken place at all, by allocating that the snake wasn't yours therefore you shouldn't be liable for what it is or is not exactly.
I and others have tried to reach you.. to no avail..on multiple times. All i got was the same .. no answer or your sister would answer the phone at your home ans say that you would call back in like an hour.. That never takes place as the norm. Your cell # you seem to never answer when people are trying to reach you either at all. After just soo many calls..one seeks other avenues to get a responce is all when that takes place. Your woprk would ask who was calling first and then say that you were not available or not there. What is someone supposed to think other than that they are being avoided for some reason ? You did post that you were going away for 2 weeks time. So I gave ya that much but then after that amount of time.. Still no snake was delivered nor was there any contact from you at all either. I am not a mind reader , and see no need to be one either. I gave it some time also before posting on the bOI even while others tried to get in touch with you for me and couldn't. That's when I posted it on the BOI. Heck.. I could have even placed a complaint on the paypal even, but went the BOI way instead with it. I also asked in chatroom if anyone knew what was going on with you and found nothing out there also relative to this snake.
We caould go on & on over this , but it's not really going to get anyone anywhere.
The snake is not healthy..as you have seen what I posted on the BOI in regards to such. So the "handable" thing is even a "mute" point at this point in regards to the snake even. I have someone who is going to work with the snake in getting it healthy for me. They have more experience than I do with nasty tempered snakes. AND I would be the last person who would be shipping out a snake that is not healthy at all. In fact this snake should never have been shipped in the first place even. Due to the health and stress factoring of shipping and what doing such could do further to the snake even.
I'll "give ya " that one that you have offered to make remedy on the snake at this point , once someone was finally able to get in touch with you in regards to it...BUT NOT on the issue that when you are selling a snake and it is someone else's that you are not the responsible one for what does or does not take place with such. You offered the snake for sale, you answered the questions as though you knew the snake, you never once stated that you had never even seen the snake or would not be even, you shipped the snake..therefore YOU are the person that represented the snake and what is is/was and are the responsible one for how the transaction takes place.. from start to finish.
As for the snake and shipping it back/refunding etc. As I have stated.. I have someone that will helping me to be dealing with the snake and it's issues also now. I had to do something for the sake of the snake.. couldn't wait around forever to make contact with you...

LORI

OH & NO I do not have caller ID.. . I have no reason to avoid calls here at all...so no need for such things.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

At this point ..I'm moving on in this matter with the snake and what has transpired in regards to it all........
 
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YUP. Been ol here and at RTBS too.. Notice the looong popst above this one.. That's what took soo long to get back to you. As for someone sending me an email [ friend in Fl] as you have said.. Such I never received and this is first that i am hearing of such. This wasn't even mentioned to the person whom contacted you in regards to exactly what was going on with the shipping of the snake on July 28, 2002 when you were finally contacted in regards to such...
 
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> One more addition to my previous post. I had a friend the same friend that came to my store email Lori when I got back from Fla to tell her that I was shipping the snake out </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Well in regards to this your probably refering to the person that I had contact you as shown in the pm copy above. That's when I first got somewhere in regards to when the snake was being shipped out...after I asked em to find out if they could from you....I beleive that they went by your work even to get in touch with you possibly....
 
Hello everyone,  I have done many business transactions with TC serpents and have been to his facility in person. All of his animals had seperate clean enclosures and appear to be fed very well.  I consider him a very moral and strong charactered business man as well as a good friend now.  I have bought several of his jungle corns, regular corns, rat snakes, bearded dragons, breeding swaps and even done a few trades.  I just can't see him doing what is being said for a hundred and some change.  In my opinion it is not in him to do something like that. During the time this is said to have happened I know for a fact he was in florida for a week or so and was unable to be contacted and had no direct access to a computer. I believe that if he was fully aware of the situation at hand and ALL aspects that he would have made good on it or will. Thanks and I hope this situation works out for all parties involved.
 
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