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Info who knows well allen belcher big daddy's

Even with the extremely generous act on Mike's behalf, Biga$$ Daddy now gets to keep money that doesn't belong to him.

Belcher ripped this guy off and kept making excuses and now he keeps this guys money and Mike is out of pocket?

I say Belcher needs to refund this money.

He is scum and hopefully his "I need money" sales pitches on KS means he is getting out of the reptile business forever. No one needs him around.
 
wow. i dont post here very often, but wow. mr. wilbanks, that is some of the most fantastic service i have ever seen offered. while i see the above posters point, its probably better just to let it go. im a huge, what goes around, comes around, believe, and everything will work out properly in due time.

again, mike, you are a class act. thank you
 
WOW Mike!

I always knew you were one of the "good guys", but that is a great way to prove it, and a great way for everyone reading this to know whom to recommend to anyone who asks!

Everyone who ever posts on the BOI should always remember how many "lurkers" there are here. We don't post often, but we do make notes, and we remember "the good, the bad, and the ugly", lol! I rarely say anything good or bad when asked about somebody I don't deal with myself. But I OFTEN point inquiries towards relevant BOI threads so they can make up their own minds.

Way to go, Mike!!
 
I seriously Doubt Allens I need Cash sales are going to help
Personally I dont want nor like to see or hear of someone getting Scammed But I would look the other way (and :rofl: a little maybe alot) if someone took/SCAMMED Allen Belcher of Big Daddy's Wholesale :D

I was recently working on a deal with Lil daddy's no-sale for 3 Bp morphs he had listed he told me he would let them go for 950 :rofl::rofl: I seen his ads before and the same animals where cheaper I wanted to do 8-50 I told him the prices he had listed where HIGH and were was the deal at? I seen another ad with a Het Genetic Stripe I said if he would add the het to the 3 morphs I wanted I would 950 (naturally I used my resources and inquired about Allen here I found several posts :yesnod:) He said the Het Genetic Stripe had been sold But he would add a 100% Het Clown male for 950 shipped. After reading the post and seeing the picture's and this thread Allen can Keep his snakes :thumbsup:

Its IMHO :censored: up for someone like Allen do go to a NEW low. He's putting more dirt on his name I mean after reading the post and seeing the pics If I where Allen I would running circles 26/8 (yes I know its 24/7) doing everything thing and everything to bring my name half way clean.

Mike what a way to step up to plate. Thats customer service beyond ANYTHING I've seen before. Im postive with that act of kindness you've made Christian's day I know if I was in his shoe's I would cried a little reading that. Like I said before Mike I havent got to do business with you. With that post Im waiting to see what you have hatching and If I can use it in my collection.

I WOULD NOT & WILL NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ALLEN BELCHER OF BIG DADDY'S WHOLESALE
 
Allen, keeping the money and refusing to send product is theft. It's not the buyers fault you promised to deliver a product when you couldn't do it. You should have your ducks in a row, or be able to get the paperwork like all the OTHER breeders that manage to get THEIR permits in order to ship overseas within a reasonable time. Since you obviously can't do that, you should apologize and refund the money.

Mike, good on you. Sorry that you are making up for a scammer who's keeping money that doesn't belong to him, but awesome to see that there's such good guys in the industry still. I hope you gain a lot of business, because your business practices deserve a reward of more customers.
 
Wolfy-hound said:
Allen, keeping the money and refusing to send product is theft. It's not the buyers fault you promised to deliver a product when you couldn't do it. You should have your ducks in a row, or be able to get the paperwork like all the OTHER breeders that manage to get THEIR permits in order to ship overseas within a reasonable time. Since you obviously can't do that, you should apologize and refund the money.
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Allen knows that He just dont care. I wouldnt trust Allen if he offered to send me 10 free Bp Morphs. He cant get a permit nor the paperwork that reputible breeders aquire to ship oversea's IMHO I think its becuase the people who approve the permits dont Want Allens reptiles going out of the U.S( I mean I in all honesty DONT EVEN WANT THEM IN THE U.S)

I belive its beyond unfair for what Christian is having to go thorugh becuase of Allen Belcher Its even worse that He had to turn away is customers and refund their money That Allen had

Like I stated before I would :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: If tommorow I got Fauna to read that someone took Allen Belcher for a portion of what he has. Karma's nothing to play with :NoNo:
Then maybe Allen can feel the way he has made so many people feel. I mean he is "Downsizing" what he's going to be working with. I dont think he intentionally planned on downsizeing Nor turning his building into a Batting Cage :rofl: :rofl: IMHO He didnt decide to Downsize he becuase of his actions got PUSHED into Downsizing (and figured Since he Couldnt be able to work with as many animals as he previously was working with ( Most of them probally passed away Due to Lack of proper care) Another reason he probally "downsized" the number of animals he was working with.
On a lighter note I personally dont think Allen will be selling animals much longer. Via his "Downsizing" and turning a once reptile building into a Indoor batting cage... Allen IMO you need to give away EVERY ANIMAL YOU OWN TO WHOEVER MAY TAKE THEM FROM YOU AND build a Indoor Bumper Car track in your other building Maybe you'll have more luck with those then you do with your reptiles But I dont see how that would work His so called "Business Ethics" would be the same.... If he did that I wonder if his go carts would even be safe to ride on?....
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SPJ said:
Even with the extremely generous act on Mike's behalf, Biga$$ Daddy now gets to keep money that doesn't belong to him.

Belcher ripped this guy off and kept making excuses and now he keeps this guys money and Mike is out of pocket?

I say Belcher needs to refund this money.

He is scum and hopefully his "I need money" sales pitches on KS means he is getting out of the reptile business forever. No one needs him around.
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He's been going out of business for years.... and never went out of business. I think he was going out of business when the Reptster debacle hit as well.
 
MikeWilbanks said:
Christian, my understanding is that you have a $2500 deposit with Allen. I have decided to give you that credit with me. Allen can keep the deposit and you two can be finished with each other. When you place your order for September Hamm, we will take the $2500 off the total so you will have your money back.
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Wow! What an amazing offer! I especially hate seeing people in other countries getting scammed when their recourse is so limited. Mr. Wilbanks, I hope your generosity gets returned 100-fold! I'm not a ball/burmese/retic/boa person, but I have your site bookmarked anyway, just to know who to recommend to friends who might be looking. Thanks for making America a great place for the whole world to do business with.
 
nothing boys… does not want to let go, after these written, is 1 year that aspect cites, that I have given to my customers all their money behind, the cites is ready…. that strange this thing… sin that I do not have more customers for animals, and given back money…
it continues to make to lose time to me and says that if I do not take animals I lose the money…. crazy this element…
 
I only hope that this pig has ended to make to lose time to me and money… I have asked aid mike, I do not become account of the figures that ago Allen? I would have shame, I would not have more the courage than to exist in this turn and continues to send email to me… enough is pathetic to die
 
If the deposit was sent as a nonrefundable deposit, I would say at the very least, the guy should have a credit in the amount of the deposit. I would also make some phone calls to where the Cities paperwork gets processed, and find out what and why it took so long? If it was Allen's fault, then he should refund the guys money and send him a snake or two. Allen comes off looking really bad, which just adds fuel to the fire regarding his piss poor reputation. Is he still going out of business? If so, that would make me stay even farther away from his animals....if his customer service is bad, imagine how it will be if he has no reason to work things out if a deal goes south.
 
If Allen is still posting on Kingsnake. I recommend you put a complaint against him through them as well. This situation is just ridiculous!
 
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