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    In short, DON'T! Email notices are to ONLY alert you of a reply to your private message or your ad on this site. Replying to the email just wastes your time as it goes NOWHERE, and probably pisses off the person you thought you replied to when they think you just ignored them. So instead of complaining to me about your messages not being replied to from this site via email, please READ that email notice that plainly states what you need to do in order to reply to who you are trying to converse with.

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    Yeah, I know. They are a pain in the butt. But they pay the bills to keep my server running. Just a fact of life, I am afraid.

    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

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    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Who's Minding the Store?

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I've been a long time member and contributed even when it wasn't a requirement because I am not a fan of "the site who's name shall not be mentioned" and I prefer not to support them.

On Monday the 3rd I went to post an ad and found out about the new pay-to-play policy. I don't disagree with it or have a problem with it at all. I am perfectly fine with paying for a service.

I followed the links, sent the payment via PayPal, and have not heard a word since and there are no changes on my account and I still cannot post ads.

I emailed and PM'd Rich and heard nothing from him. Okay, I notice the changes with the moderators and such, so I emailed and PM'd Kent. No acknowledgement from him either.

I really do not care to post this in a public forum, but my money is gone, I have nothing for it (yet), and I need to post ads for a reason.

Can someone please clear this up for me?

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Hopefully...

This will be cleared up for you soon. I waited till the next day to check my ability and Rich had been right on top of it. I'm sure once he gets your message he will fix this for you. He should send you an e-mail acknowledgement of your payment, so chances are he's still catching up with things.
 
Did you pay via your UserCP?
If you did, the membership is automatically updated, but you may need to switch it on in your UserCP under "Paid Subscriptions."
 
I Followed the Links

When I opens the "Paid Subscriptions" link from the CP it's an order form.

I don't believe I paid using the link in the user control panel. The layout is the same as the page I used to initiate the order but I'm fairly certain I followed a different link from another area.

Regardless, I am not receiving any response from Fauna. It's kind of frustrating.

I re-upped our classified account with the-site-which-shall-not-be-named, simply because these are the last animals we have and I will never have to deal with them again, and it was ready, including the ridiculous business verification, in about a day and a half. Of course I immediately violated some obscure section of the TOS by posting an ad without pictures(?). Gotta love those guys! :ack2:

Anyhow, as I stated in my original post. I'm not all that comfortable posting this in public but I've yet to have any of my requests for information addressed and I hope this elicits a response.
 
morphrancher said:
I've been a long time member and contributed even when it wasn't a requirement because I am not a fan of "the site who's name shall not be mentioned" and I prefer not to support them.

On Monday the 3rd I went to post an ad and found out about the new pay-to-play policy. I don't disagree with it or have a problem with it at all. I am perfectly fine with paying for a service.

I followed the links, sent the payment via PayPal, and have not heard a word since and there are no changes on my account and I still cannot post ads.

I emailed and PM'd Rich and heard nothing from him. Okay, I notice the changes with the moderators and such, so I emailed and PM'd Kent. No acknowledgement from him either.

I really do not care to post this in a public forum, but my money is gone, I have nothing for it (yet), and I need to post ads for a reason.

Can someone please clear this up for me?

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Amazing as this may be to believe, yes, sometimes I may take a few days and go on vacation. And no, I do not want to spend my vacation time reading emails and otherwise doing things that I might as well stay home to do. And unfortunately there are some functions that just cannot be delegated.

There has been a problem with PayPal lately whereby the notice does not seem to be issued all of the time to indicate to this site that a payment has been made for a membership, and thereby trigger the change automatically. Usually this gets straightened out when PayPal eventually sends the signal. Unfortunately, I cannot manually intervene, because if I were to do so, it would cause me even more headaches.

Be that as it may, you have apparently filed a dispute with PayPal over this. Apparently patience is not a virtue you can lay claim to. Sorry you felt I had stolen your $25 and used that money to retire on in luxury. As such, I am refunding your money and canceling my one way trip to Belize. I would greatly appreciate it if you would withdraw the black mark you have tried to put on my PayPal account. And if you should discover that PayPal sends the status signal to this system and that gets you upgraded to a Contributor membership regardless of your actual paid status, please let me know so I can fix that problem as well.

I do appreciate this.........
 
Rich,

You could have taken care of this privately.

The PayPal dispute was to bring this to someone's attention since I had not received any reply in three days. You will not end up with "black mark" on your PayPal account. It doesn't work that way and besides that was never my intention. You chose to resolve the issue by sending me a refund I did not ask for and then apparently you intend to make me the bad guy with your angry email and post.

I've met you several times in person and always supported Fauna. When contributions were first offered I paid for one to be supportive. I'm saddened that you chose this route. My thick skin has been pretty much worn away after seven years of being involved with the business of reptiles. I give... I'm saying "uncle"... whatever...
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I will be so very happy when my remaining animals are gone and I will completely free of this insanity.

In none of my posts did I launch an attack on your character or Fauna in general. I don't appreciate your insinuations about mine because they simply are not true.

Thanks for the refund but I would have rather just had my account updated. The idea of the dispute is to initiate communication and resolve the issue. I did not escalate it into a claim. That is a whole separate matter.

Real professional message here:
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FaunaClassifieds L.L.C. ([email protected]) has issued you a full or partial refund for your payment.

Please do not reply to this email. Email sent to this address cannot be answered.

Message From Seller:
Thanks for the headache!

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Well, I guess I'm done here.

Thanks for the good information Fauna has provided me over the years. I do appreciate that.

Good luck with the site and your other endeavors.
 
I was trying to help you have a little patience.

It's not like Rich is going to run off to a deserted island full of nude nubile tribeswomen...although he might like to! :D

Give him a day or so to relax and try it again, perhaps.
 
Alex,

Perhaps the fact that YOU made this public has escaped your notice. Obviously you desired a response in public, which I have provided. Certainly not the one you had hoped for, but there is always a risk that might happen, nonetheless.

Fact of the matter is that you paid for the Contributor level membership on 12/04 at 12:03am EST. Upon not IMMEDIATELY getting satisfaction from your emails and/or PMs, you then filed a complaint with PayPal on 12/05 at 5:22pm EST, less than 48 hours later. I left town early on 12/03 and I got back home today (12/07) about two hours before replying to your thread in this forum. From the time I got in and responded to this thread, I was wading through emails trying to flush out the spam and then address those that needed attention first. When I saw that you had filed a complaint with PayPal, then my interpretation was that you were basically DEMANDING a refund. Which you got just as soon as I could do so. God help me had I decided to take care of my animals first..... Right now I just want to get all the crap waiting for me when I got back home at least partially de-oderized so I can just hit the hay.

I am sorry that I cannot be here 24/7/365 for YOU and everyone else, and that some people have trouble comprehending how such a turn of events as this is possible, but that is just the way it is.
 
Get your facts straight!

Rich,

The payment was made on December 3, 2007 10:02:38 PM MST according to my email receipt. So it was around 32 before I filed the dispute. The dispute was to elicit a response. That's what they are for. Apparently it did grab your attention. I waited another day before starting this thread. You may think it's unreasonable but I disagree and that's okay. I was just hoping for a moderator or you to get back and say things were just taking some time. Your little "absentee landlord" sig. led me to believe you had turned over the show to the mods. Sorry, my mistake.

I just don't understand this. If you hate running Fauna so much then why the heck do you do it? For the love of God and your own health and sanity make a change.

I shouldn't have checked this thread again but curiosity and compulsion led me to. I admire you for not pulling a site-which-shall-not-be-named move and just deleting my account. But geez, you're not a martyr for the cause. I never claimed in my messages or this thread that I was a victim of anything. I never mentioned Fauna taking my money and then denying me service. All I wanted to know, and rightly so as a customer, is why my inquiries were not being answered. I just wanted to advertise some animals. A simple private note to me would have sufficed. I would have posted that everything was taken care of well. You could have posted an apology instead of an attack.

People ask me why after so much investment of sweat, tears, money, and blood I would walk away from breeding. My answer is that I am too weary anymore to deal with the snakes and rats, the human variety, not the animals. I've been fortunate to deal with some really great people and cautious enough not to get taken (not too badly, anyway). I think the satisfaction of our customers bears out that I practice what I preach. But the crap that goes on among the "community" has become intolerable.

Sometimes the only path to victory is surrender. Go ahead and berate me some more while you sit on the pity pot. I don't need the last word.

If God is a mouse or rat then I guess I'll see you all in hell! :dgrin:

P.S.: that's a joke, I'm not dogging anyone. :D
 
morphrancher said:
Rich,

The payment was made on December 3, 2007 10:02:38 PM MST according to my email receipt. So it was around 32 before I filed the dispute. The dispute was to elicit a response. That's what they are for. Apparently it did grab your attention. I waited another day before starting this thread. You may think it's unreasonable but I disagree and that's okay. I was just hoping for a moderator or you to get back and say things were just taking some time. Your little "absentee landlord" sig. led me to believe you had turned over the show to the mods. Sorry, my mistake.

Well, 10:02pm PST on 12/03 actually equates to 01:03am EST on 12/04. So PayPal can't figure out the time zone difference either. But your point? 32 hours IS actually less than 48 hours.....

So you believe waiting a mere 32 hours before filing a complaint with PayPal was appropriate? If you truly believe that PayPal does not keep a record of complaints and they CAN be black marks on someone's record, then I believe you may be a bit ignorant in how such things work.

morphrancher said:
I just don't understand this. If you hate running Fauna so much then why the heck do you do it? For the love of God and your own health and sanity make a change.

I've made quite a few changes, thank you. Right now I basically ignore most people except for those who go out of their way to attack me directly. You know, things like berating me in public because I don't comply with their own demands to conform with what THEY want, and filing complaints with PayPal, etc., etc. I can't really say I hate Fauna as much as I really dislike some of the personalities that try their best to destroy it and attack me in the process.

morphrancher said:
I shouldn't have checked this thread again but curiosity and compulsion led me to. I admire you for not pulling a site-which-shall-not-be-named move and just deleting my account. But geez, you're not a martyr for the cause. I never claimed in my messages or this thread that I was a victim of anything. I never mentioned Fauna taking my money and then denying me service. All I wanted to know, and rightly so as a customer, is why my inquiries were not being answered. I just wanted to advertise some animals. A simple private note to me would have sufficed. I would have posted that everything was taken care of well. You could have posted an apology instead of an attack.

Perhaps you should look at your own manner of handling this. Would it be that difficult to believe that maybe I was tied up elsewhere? Do you take vacations? Do you ever take down time to just get away from things for a while? Hmm, maybe not. You are getting out of this, so maybe you haven't.... You know, there was a guy in the group we were vacationing with who had his cell phone going off about every fifteen minutes. What kind of vacation is that? Quite frankly, if the world ends here because I am not around to handle every nit-picking detail, then it will just have to end.

morphrancher said:
People ask me why after so much investment of sweat, tears, money, and blood I would walk away from breeding. My answer is that I am too weary anymore to deal with the snakes and rats, the human variety, not the animals. I've been fortunate to deal with some really great people and cautious enough not to get taken (not too badly, anyway). I think the satisfaction of our customers bears out that I practice what I preach. But the crap that goes on among the "community" has become intolerable.

I submit the possibility that perhaps some of the "intolerable" events you have suffered with the "community" may have been through your own doing. Certainly, as witnessed here, patience is not your strong point. The expectation that someone MUST attend to you wants when demanded, regardless of any other consideration, certainly is not very reasonable.

morphrancher said:
Sometimes the only path to victory is surrender. Go ahead and berate me some more while you sit on the pity pot. I don't need the last word.

This is not being done to berate you, but simply to point out to you that perhaps your methods in trying to get someone's attention needs some refinement. And an understanding that not everyone dances at the pace you demand could be helpful as well. Yeah, I guess you were in such an all fired hurry to post your animals for sale, but sheesh......... 32 hours after paying for a membership and there is a delay (caused by PayPal, no less) and you're ready to string me up over it because of that?

morphrancher said:
If God is a mouse or rat then I guess I'll see you all in hell! :dgrin:

P.S.: that's a joke, I'm not dogging anyone. :D

Good luck in your other pursuits in life. I do mean that sincerely.
 
Y'all are both tired and your tone is coming off a bit nastier than I think either of you is intending. Rich just got back from vacation~ everyones a bit grumpy when the come back to real life~ Alex is giving up a long time pursuit~ that would make anyone a bit grumpy.

Cut each other a little slack and back off.
The problem has been solved and is no longer a problem.
 
hey when I had my store i ran it all by myslef sure I had some employees but they didnt do anything thing so yeah i ran it all by myself and sure if you want me to run your stor ill do that for you hey ive been in the industry for about 20 years and i run a tight ship you know give me a call
 
Wreckless Robby said:
hey when I had my store i ran it all by myslef sure I had some employees but they didnt do anything thing so yeah i ran it all by myself and sure if you want me to run your stor ill do that for you hey ive been in the industry for about 20 years and i run a tight ship you know give me a call
Did you actually read this thread before you posted the above robby?
 
Wreckless Robby said:
hey when I had my store i ran it all by myslef sure I had some employees but they didnt do anything thing so yeah i ran it all by myself and sure if you want me to run your stor ill do that for you hey ive been in the industry for about 20 years and i run a tight ship you know give me a call


Idiot!
 
Sometimes just ignoring someone is the best path to take, fellas...
 
Well good luck finding anyone to run you store now that everyone knows what a bunch of jerks you are!!
 
thefinaltruth said:
Well good luck finding anyone to run you store now that everyone knows what a bunch of jerks you are!!


Gee, you sure had us fooled....

24.91.161.107 : c-24-91-161-107.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
thefinaltruth 24.91.161.107
Wreckless Robby 24.91.161.107

12.15.172.154 : Could Not Resolve Hostname
thefinaltruth 12.15.172.154
Wreckless Robby 12.15.172.154

Begone, troll.....
 
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