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Heart and Soul Reptiles

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That swans can stay with the same mate for their entire life and become so faithful that they usually pass away shortly after their partner does?
What I mean is... Why is a bird more faithful to it's spouse then most humans can even fathom being to theirs?
I think that's pretty pathetic.
You're all being upstaged daily by an animal with a brain that is a quarter the size of yours (not taking a stab at birds, I own one, I know their smart, just trying to make a point)
The last 5 years of my life were a complete lie everyday, I feel like I've wasted so much time, and besides that, talk about making me insecure.
Telling someone they'll pretty much never be enough for you can really put a damper on their mood and self esteem.
Not to mention all the hell our son now has to go through for the rest of his life.
:angry:
I hate men, I hate women. Asexuality here I come.
 
((((Kylie)))))) I am sorry you are hurting.
I'm not going to hand you any tripe, words like 'time will heal' and all that. Because there is no way out, you have to go through the hurts in life, not over them or under them, you have to live through them.

We are here to listen, and to love you for what you are. But you are the one that has to do the real work, to go through the sorrow that relationships can bring, sometimes.

I'm sorry you are hurting.:unhappy:
 
Hey, We Men arent all Jerks! I know I'm a jerk on the forums, But I have been married to the same woman for 23 years now. And she gets Hotter every year! Hate to hear anyone going threw tough times. But, He wasnt good enough for you Anyway!!:thumbsup:
 
F*ck that moron. I hate cheaters. My first wife cheated on me more times than I can count on both hands, and then split when I found out, leaving me with our two kids. (Yeah, shows how good a mother she was, eh? Worthless...)

I'm just assuming he cheated on you, so correct me if I'm wrong... but it still sounds like he's a friggin moron. lol
 
I'm sorry to hear what happened. I will agree with the fact that not all of us are jerks. The problem is, most men are.... lol

Really, if he really thinks you'll never be enough for him, he's never going to be happy. He'll never find exactly what he wants because there will never be "enough."

For now, just try to work through the pain... without any ice cream. Your kid will understand what happened in good time. Don't you worry about him.

Just try to cheer up a bit and remember: We all love ya, and I'm sure one day in the future, a great man will too.
 
Thanks everybody, you're all great :) your significant others are all very lucky, I hope they know it! The assh*le had the nerve to ask me to have sex with him last night! (obviously I said he had better luck to snuggle with the cat, and he's allergic.) If that answers a lot of questions. I don't think he quite grasps the concept that if the top half isn't happy, the bottom half doesn't work. He's started looking for an apartment, and I've started trying to decide if I have to sell some of my breeders along with my hatchlings this year :/ That will suck, I'm very attached to all my animals, My breeding stock is pretty much my personal collection as well. Just going to try to get through day by day, and hope I don't have to let anybody go. I think I would sooner sell all of my furniture and electronics before I would sell my animals ^_^
 
Thanks everybody, you're all great :) your significant others are all very lucky, I hope they know it! The assh*le had the nerve to ask me to have sex with him last night! (obviously I said he had better luck to snuggle with the cat, and he's allergic.) If that answers a lot of questions. I don't think he quite grasps the concept that if the top half isn't happy, the bottom half doesn't work. He's started looking for an apartment, and I've started trying to decide if I have to sell some of my breeders along with my hatchlings this year :/ That will suck, I'm very attached to all my animals, My breeding stock is pretty much my personal collection as well. Just going to try to get through day by day, and hope I don't have to let anybody go. I think I would sooner sell all of my furniture and electronics before I would sell my animals ^_^

I'd like to give you some advice. You don't have to take it, but I know it is good advice so I am going to lay it out. If you have to, sell a hatchling or two, and get enough money together to find a good lawyer now.

Lots of people who split up are hurting, have everyday chores and jobs and so on, and sort of don't take the concept of property division seriously, and lose out when they don't do their homework, which includes tracing and proving property ownership and getting set for a division.

It may not seem like a worthwhile expense to you, where you're at right now; but I'm telling you that it is.

There are attorneys who will give you a free initial consultation, and give you an idea of what needs to be done. That might be a good start.

Don't be one of those people who lives in a sea of regret and pain and disregards the real world because of it. Yes, you have to live through the pain. But try to get it together enough so you won't lose out in terms of property for something that was not of your making.
 
Your posts sounds like you might be looking for a little advice. If you were just looking to vent then ignore this.

Your in the fog of betrayal right now. Your angry, hurt and wanting to hurt back. Be very careful and very thoughtful in each action you take at this point.

1. Put him out of your bed. End of story. Even if you choose to work through this with him he needs to be out of your bed until STD tests are done. Either in another room or another residence~ but not in your bed.

2. Contact an attorney and find our what your rights are. Listen to the attorney and move any money or property your advised to.

3. Marriage counseling can and does work IF he is willing to be accountable for his behavior and your willing to struggle through the process with him. Just "Forgetting" it will not work. No matter how much you may WANT to forget it.......you won't. It is a difficult and painful process but can be done if you BOTH work for it.

4. A support group is more important that you realize, whether the marriage survives or not. A Counselor can help you find one.

Good luck and God bless
 
Thanks you guys, but we rent our place right now, so the whole, "lawyer thing" isn't really applicable I don't think, he said he's very happy to go get an apartment and go somewhere else. I was mostly looking for a place to vent, but I appreciate all your feedback guys and gals :) A lawyer wouldn't really be worth my time, he doesn't want the snakes except his Burm he's had for years that's always been his, and he's happy coming to us right now to see our son, neither of us want him to have to see the girls he's around, their mostly drug addicts or sluts :/ and I don't intend what so ever to stop him from seeing our son, as long as he gives me the same courtesy. Thanks again for all the support everyone!
 
Just now seeing & reading this...

I can definitely empathize with you... Betrayals can be very rough, especially when it's from someone you deeply love. If physical betrayal (cheating) was involved, it can be very hard to forgive & even harder to forget. Depending on *your* relationship & feelings, a causal fling, IMO, is not worth going your separate ways & ending your relationship, especially a marriage. It all again, depends on your specific circumstances & what you can & can't live with.

A lot of people assume if one stays in a relationship after someone cheated that they are *weak, stupid, etc..* BUT that is NOT true.... It takes a really strong person to STAY & rebuild after that kind of betrayal, I can say that because I am living through it.

IF the other person , who cheated, does NOT stop that behavior, then that is a different story. But if they have made a change for the better & are recommitted to your relationship, then you owe it to yourself to try to work it out & take it day by day.

There is another form of betrayal that is more common today than physical cheating... that would be *emotional cheating*...and it can be equally hurtful & damaging to ones relationship...

Here is something I copied & pasted from an MSN article on emotional cheating:

"So how does a modern friendship become a relationship threat? As humans,
we all have a powerful need to feel connections with others — a more
powerful need than men often admit to themselves, says M. Gary Neuman, a
psychotherapist and the author of In Good Times & Bad.
Biologically, we're drawn to seek that connection with members of the
opposite sex. "However, the average couple spends only 12 to 20 minutes a
day talking, and most of that is about dirty diapers or the mortgage,"
he says. "Then a friend comes along — someone you never have to see when
she's sick, someone you don't have to worry about paying bills or
pulling through stressful times with. The friendship becomes all about
the goodies: humor, philosophical conversation, compliments."

But that joke you e-mail her, the witty banter you share — it's all
fueled with energy from a finite reserve, experts say. "As more of your
energy goes into the new friendship, it's drained from your primary
relationship, leaving it bland, empty, and neutral," says Potter-Efron."

Just something to think about, IMO ...

Glad to hear things are working out for you : )
 
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