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Wyatt @ T&W International...Poor Customer Service

To Everyone Who Has Replied To This Thread!!

Yes it is true, I have infact been going through some personla issues. Some I will feel free to discuss and some that I would rather not on a business end. As allot of people know I have been going through a corporate split of TW Intl Inc. and times have been a little difficult but that is in no way an excuse for the lack of customer attention that I have lacked over the last few months. Again I am very sorry for that.. I have been in this business for well over 12 years and my reputation has been good from very extensive payment plans to the delivery of some very beautiful ball pythons and boas. To everyone that has replied to this thread, if you feel that you have not received the proper documentation or any at all on the snakes that you have received from me or this company please e mail me immediately and I will handle these matters accordingly and prompt. Again I am very sorry and will do my best to right these wrongs.

Thanks,
Wyatt

TW Intl Inc.
Dallas, Tx
 
I have never done a deal with you. I'm just saying it is nice to hear from you on this thread. I hope all is well.
 
I've done some deals with Wyatt and never had any issues.

On one deal there was the potential for someone of lesser character to really take advantage of the situation, but Wyatt came through.

Glad to see him responding to this thread and owning up to any missteps.

Alex Tanner
 
The BoidSmith said:
Dave has a point. In the words of one of the most respectable boid breeders in the business: “…as long as the paperwork accompanies the same snake…” At this point in time your options are to send a clear picture of the snake to “Wyatt”, have him sign it, and write on it that he recognizes the snake in question as his and carrying the trait with the genetics that it’s supposed to be. Now, even with all that, which animal are you going to breed the snake to? Are the genetics of the other animal properly documented? How are you going to document that the actual breeding took place and you failed to produce the visual morph? Regrettably it all boils down to the trust you may have on the seller.

Regards.
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Furthermore, it is possible for two different gene pairs to have mutations that cause a similar phenotype. I know this has been the case with lavenders in Cal Kings - you can take a homozygous BEB and breed it with another homozygous lavender that looks exactly like a BEB - and get a clutch of completely normal phenotype babies. They will be double hets, but their phenotype will be normal.

I think it would be very difficult to win such a court case unless you have testimony or some evidence that the person knew their animal wasn't het and listed it that way anyway.
 
I am curious, some have stated paperwork can be over rated and easily fabricated, as we all know what TSE accomplished. Wyatt, do you guarantee the genetics on your hets?
 
I posted on page two of this thread about a deal gone bad on an animal Wyatt produced. The deal wasn't with him, it was with a former customer of his. Anyhow I emailed Wyatt after he responded to the thread, and I just got off the phone with him a minute ago. He was able to verify my different questions easily, and was extremely friendly and helpful on the phone. I think that everyone can go through some stuff in life and slip up here or there... as far as I'm concerned Wyatt made things right with me and I'd do business with him in the future. Shoot him and email, he'll likely do the same for you.
 
All talk and no action

After Wyatt posted his apologies and said he would make right with anyone who posted on this thread I still have not received my documentation. I've emailed and left phone messsages without a response. The least he could do is acknowledge he's read the emails and will take care of business.
He responded immediately and often when he was selling his animals.

Allan Shultz
 
Junkyard said:
I am curious, some have stated paperwork can be over rated and easily fabricated, as we all know what TSE accomplished. Wyatt, do you guarantee the genetics on your hets?
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What good would that guarantee be if you cant get hold of the person that gave you that piece of paper?
 
It's just a matter of principal with me. When someone says they're going to do something I expect them to do it. I expect him to be man enough to do what he said he would do.

Allan Shultz
 
Allen,
Your documentation has been sent off and if you would like a copy from my word file I will e mail it to you. As far as a guarantee from me on the animals that I produce, I ensure them genetically correct as sold and from some of the most diverse lines out there today from over 12 years of selective breeding. As far as Jay Owens goes, although I appreciate your response in whatever fashion you may have deamed necessary as a moderator of this forum, lets not forget the rather unforgettable situation that occured between you and my company a couple of years ago that was rather unprofessional and pretty well left alone and out of this forum. I as well as my ex business partner feel that you have no room to express your thoughts on the basis of not being able to contact an individual after a sale of a particular breeders stock is concearned beit a $10 snake to a $6500 sale of someone elses stock and not even contacting them about it!!!! So lets please leave the comments of my customers be heard on this forum and not from individuals who are in no postion to be making comments on business contacts ok? As far as Mr. Shultz goes again your documentation should be by the up coming Wed and if it is not I will be more than happy to come on this forum and explain why it is not. As far as your e mails and phone calls are concearned, I appologize for whatever reason I have not replied to them but I will do my best to go through and see where the mistake was made on my part.

Thanks,
Wyatt

TW Intl Inc.
Dallas, Tx
 
Wyatt said:
As far as Jay Owens goes, although I appreciate your response in whatever fashion you may have deamed necessary as a moderator of this forum, lets not forget the rather unforgettable situation that occured between you and my company a couple of years ago that was rather unprofessional and pretty well left alone and out of this forum.
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Unprofessional? On whose part? Wyatt, Eric and I were on the same page all the way through that entire ordeal. You were the one who was getting upset, and impatient.

I as well as my ex business partner feel that you have no room to express your thoughts on the basis of not being able to contact an individual after a sale of a particular breeders stock is concearned beit a $10 snake to a $6500 sale of someone elses stock and not even contacting them about it!!!!
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Perhaps you should ask your ex-partner's opinion before stating it for him...inaccurately. Eric doesn't have a problem with what transpired. In fact, there is no problem whatsoever between him and I.

Let's review the facts...
Eric told me that he wanted to sell a couple of animals that you guys had sent here on breeding loan. He told me how much he wanted for them ($6500). He told me that if I found a buyer to just go ahead and sell them, and then send him the money. I sold the animals along with a number of my own stock to an individual. That individual took longer than expected to pay for everything. In the meantime, I kept Eric updated on what was going on, and I assured him that if for some reason the guy didn't pay me, that I would find a way to pay you guys out of my own pocket, but that I didn't have the cash available right then. When the guy finally paid me (about 6-7 weeks late) I sent Eric a cashier's check the same day that I received his cashier's check.

Those are the facts, so let's not try to twist them just because you got upset and angry that I refused to deal with you (and only dealt with Eric) after your initial accusations that I was trying to steal from you. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

So lets please leave the comments of my customers be heard on this forum and not from individuals who are in no postion to be making comments on business contacts ok?
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Wyatt,
I didn't make any comments about your business eithics or practices. I merely answered Ed Clark's question. It was a legitimate question, and mine was a legitimate answer. No where in my answer did I mention your name. I'm sorry if you took it personally, but perhaps you shouldn't have.
 
Dr Owens said:
Wyatt,
I didn't make any comments about your business eithics or practices. I merely answered Ed Clark's question. It was a legitimate question, and mine was a legitimate answer. No where in my answer did I mention your name. I'm sorry if you took it personally, but perhaps you shouldn't have.
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I agree. This was a general question and a general answer. The fact that you, Wyatt, are hard to get hold of recently may make it applicable to you, but that is not Jay's doing. That's entirely on you. It isn't as though Allen jumped the gun in starting this thread. And even when you responded on 12/31/2006:
Wyatt said:
To everyone that has replied to this thread, if you feel that you have not received the proper documentation or any at all on the snakes that you have received from me or this company please e mail me immediately and I will handle these matters accordingly and prompt.
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On 1/13/2007, Allen had still not received what he should have received in October. That's not my idea of "prompt".
 
Update

Wanted to say that I received my documentation today from Wyatt. (via next day air).
I hold no anemosity towards Wyatt. It was his not following through after the sale that upset me and I regret having to resort to BOI to get his attention. As I have told Wyatt the animals I purchased from him over the years are some of the nicest in my collection.

Thanks
Allan Shultz
 
T&W International - BAD GUY

I purchased a Ranco Thermostat from Wyatt about 6 months ago off of his kingsnake.com ad. The ad said he shipped the same day via. priority mail. After a week I began the process of trying to get ahold of him. Phone numbers on the website did not work for him. Finally got ahold of a disgruntled friend of his who was also owed stuff. No responses from him (email & phone messages). Had tpo file a paypal complaint and a Kingsnake.com complaint. Finally after that I recieved an email from him saying they were back ordered and he just recieved them (this is 3+ weeks after ordering) and said he'd pay to have it overnighted to me to make up for the wait.

It arrived the next day in a huge box... I was still mad that I had to go through all the trouble to get what I paid for...but oh well.

2 WEEKS LATER A BILL FOR THE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ARRIVED TO ME FOR $60!!!!!!!!!!! WYATT HAD SENT IT "BILL TO SENDER"...The freakin' thermostat wasn't much more than that.

Again I contacted him (with alot of trouble) and he told me multiple times that a refund check for the shipping costs was in the mail.... NEVER ARRIVED.

I have finally given up....WYATT screwed me for $60! Arrgghhhh...

You cannot treat people like this... its not right and the herp community is too small... especially when I only live 3 hours south of the person...sooner or later we'll run into eachother at a herp show!

Graham Criglow
College Station, TX
 
It's a shame to resort to this....

But I just can't get a hold of Damian. I just want my $600.00 deposit back. After over a year of the cheque is in the mail. Damian pay back you deposit I sent in good faith.
Dave
 
GSC said:
T&W International - BAD GUY

I purchased a Ranco Thermostat from Wyatt about 6 months ago off of his kingsnake.com ad. The ad said he shipped the same day via. priority mail. After a week I began the process of trying to get ahold of him. Phone numbers on the website did not work for him. Finally got ahold of a disgruntled friend of his who was also owed stuff. No responses from him (email & phone messages). Had tpo file a paypal complaint and a Kingsnake.com complaint. Finally after that I recieved an email from him saying they were back ordered and he just recieved them (this is 3+ weeks after ordering) and said he'd pay to have it overnighted to me to make up for the wait.

It arrived the next day in a huge box... I was still mad that I had to go through all the trouble to get what I paid for...but oh well.

2 WEEKS LATER A BILL FOR THE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING ARRIVED TO ME FOR $60!!!!!!!!!!! WYATT HAD SENT IT "BILL TO SENDER"...The freakin' thermostat wasn't much more than that.

Again I contacted him (with alot of trouble) and he told me multiple times that a refund check for the shipping costs was in the mail.... NEVER ARRIVED.

I have finally given up....WYATT screwed me for $60! Arrgghhhh...

You cannot treat people like this... its not right and the herp community is too small... especially when I only live 3 hours south of the person...sooner or later we'll run into eachother at a herp show!

Graham Criglow
College Station, TX
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GSC said:
THANKS Dennis for posting this... Yep.... NEVER got my $60 back from this scam artist... I looked for him last year at the Dallas Herp show...people said Wyatt had moved out of state.... I was hoping to see him in person to get the money back. I have more less given up. Sorry other people have had bad dealings with him... It's sad when the hobby gets this way.

Graham Criglow
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Graham, Wyatt stated he was going to get right on that at the beginning of the month. Has he even contacted you yet?
 
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