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    I am still waiting on my developer to finish up on the Classifieds Control Panel so I can use it to encourage members into becoming paying members. Google Adsense has become a real burden on the viewing of this site, but honestly it is the ONLY source of income now that keeps it afloat. I tried offering disabling the ads being viewed by paying members, but apparently that is not enough incentive. Quite frankly, Google Adsense has dropped down to where it barely brings in enough daily to match even a single paid member per day. But it still gets the bills paid. But at what cost?

    So even without the classifieds control panel being complete, I believe I am going to have to disable those Google ads completely and likely disable some options here that have been free since going to the new platform. Like classified ad bumping, member name changes, and anything else I can use to encourage this site to be supported by the members instead of the Google Adsense ads.

    But there is risk involved. I will not pay out of pocket for very long during this last ditch experimental effort. If I find that the membership does not want to support this site with memberships, then I cannot support your being able to post your classified ads here for free. No, I am not intending to start charging for your posting ads here. I will just shut the site down and that will be it. I will be done with FaunaClassifieds. I certainly don't need this, and can live the rest of my life just fine without it. If I see that no one else really wants it to survive neither, then so be it. It goes away and you all can just go elsewhere to advertise your animals and merchandise.

    Not sure when this will take place, and I don't intend to give any further warning concerning the disabling of the Google Adsense. Just as there probably won't be any warning if I decide to close down this site. You will just come here and there will be some sort of message that the site is gone, and you have a nice day.

    I have been trying to make a go of this site for a very long time. And quite frankly, I am just tired of trying. I had hoped that enough people would be willing to help me help you all have a free outlet to offer your stuff for sale. But every year I see less and less people coming to this site, much less supporting it financially. That is fine. I tried. I retired the SerpenCo business about 14 years ago, so retiring out of this business completely is not that big if a step for me, nor will it be especially painful to do. When I was in Thailand, I did not check in here for three weeks. I didn't miss it even a little bit. So if you all want it to remain, it will be in your hands. I really don't care either way.

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    Some people have indicated that finding the method to contribute is rather difficult. And I have to admit, that it is not all that obvious. So to help, here is a thread to help as a quide. How to become a contributing member of FaunaClassifieds.

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Florida state law issues

H 1505 - Venomous Reptiles & Reptiles of Concern - 03/06/2007

http://www.flsenate.gov/cgi-bin/vie...use/bills/billtext/html&Tab=session&Submenu=1

HB 1505

1 A bill to be entitled
2 An act relating to wildlife; amending s. 372.86, F.S.;
3 requiring the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission to
4 establish a list of reptiles of concern subject to
5 regulation; prohibiting the unlawful capturing, keeping,
6 possessing, transporting, or exhibiting of venomous
7 reptiles or reptiles of concern; authorizing the
8 commission to inspect venomous reptiles or reptiles of
9 concern held in captivity; requiring written reports of
10 violations; authorizing the commission to revoke licenses
11 and permits under certain circumstances; requiring the
12 commission to adopt rules for the transportation of
13 venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern; amending s.
14 372.87, F.S.; requiring licensure for the capturing,
15 keeping, possessing, or exhibiting of venomous reptiles or
16 reptiles of concern; providing for fees; authorizing the
17 commission to reduce fees applicable to reptiles of
18 concern under certain circumstances; requiring fee
19 proceeds to be deposited into the State Game Trust Fund;
20 specifying uses of the proceeds; amending s. 372.88, F.S.;
21 providing for the bond required for the exhibition of
22 venomous reptiles to be payable to the commission;
23 providing for regulation of the capturing of venomous
24 reptiles; repealing s. 372.89, F.S., relating to safe,
25 secure, and proper housing of poisonous or venomous
26 reptiles; repealing s. 372.90, F.S., relating to the
27 transportation of poisonous or venomous reptiles;
28 repealing s. 372.901, F.S., relating to the inspection of
29 poisonous or venomous held in captivity; repealing s.
30 372.91, F.S., relating to who may open cages, pits, or
31 other containers housing poisonous or venomous reptiles;
32 renumbering s. 372.911, F.S., relating to rewards, to
33 conform; amending s. 372.92, F.S.; providing criminal
34 penalties for certain activities related to venomous
35 reptiles or reptiles of concern; amending s. 372.935,
36 F.S.; providing violation levels and applicable penalties
37 relating to captive wildlife, including suspension or
38 revocation of license; providing a definition; providing
39 for commission limitations in certain administrative
40 actions; providing a continuing appropriation; providing
41 effective dates.
42

43 Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Florida:
44

45 Section 1. Section 372.86, Florida Statutes, is amended to
46 read:
47 372.86 Capturing, keeping, possessing, transporting, or
48 exhibiting poisonous or venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern
49 reptile; license required.--
50 (1) No person, firm, or corporation shall capture, keep,
51 possess, or exhibit any poisonous or venomous reptile or reptile
52 of concern without first having obtained a special permit or
53 license therefor from the Fish and Wildlife Conservation
54 Commission as herein provided in this section.
55 (2) The commission shall establish a list of reptiles of
56 concern, including venomous, nonvenomous, native, nonnative, or
57 other reptiles which require additional regulation for capture,
58 possession, transportation, or exhibition due to their nature,
59 habits, status, or potential to impact humans or the
60 environment.
61 (3) It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or
62 corporation, whether licensed hereunder or not, to capture,
63 keep, possess, or exhibit any venomous reptile or reptile of
64 concern in any manner not approved as safe, secure, and proper
65 by the commission. Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern held
66 in captivity are subject to inspection by the commission. The
67 commission shall determine whether the reptiles are securely,
68 safely, and properly penned. In the event that the reptiles are
69 not safely penned, the commission shall report the situation in
70 writing to the person, firm, or corporation owning the reptiles.
71 Failure of the person, firm, or corporation to correct the
72 situation within 30 days after such written notice shall be
73 grounds for revocation of the license or permit of the person,
74 firm, or corporation.
75 (4) Venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern shall be
76 transported in a safe, secure, and proper manner. The commission
77 shall establish by rule the requirements for the transportation
78 of venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern.
79 Section 2. Effective January 1, 2008, section 372.87,
80 Florida Statutes, is amended to read:
81 372.87 License fee; renewal, revocation.--
82 (1)(a) The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is
83 hereby authorized and empowered to issue a license or permit for
84 the capturing, keeping, possessing, or exhibiting of poisonous
85 or venomous reptiles, upon payment of an annual fee of $100 and
86 upon assurance that all of the provisions of ss. 372.86-372.92
87 372.86-372.91 and such other reasonable rules and regulations as
88 the said commission may prescribe will be fully complied with in
89 all respects.
90 (b) The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is
91 authorized and empowered to issue a license or permit for the
92 capturing, keeping, possessing, or exhibiting of reptiles of
93 concern upon payment of an annual fee not to exceed $100 and
94 upon assurance that all of the provisions of ss. 372.86-372.92
95 and such other reasonable rules and regulations as the
96 commission may prescribe will be fully complied with in all
97 respects. The annual fee for issuance or renewal of a license or
98 permit under this paragraph for reptiles of concern is initially
99 set at $100. However, the commission may reduce that annual fee
100 by rule if the commission determines that there is general
101 compliance with ss. 372.86-372.92 and that such compliance
102 allows for a reduction in fees to cover the costs of
103 administering and enforcing the reptiles of concern program. The
104 commission may issue a license or permit to an applicant who has
105 a current and valid license or permit for venomous reptiles
106 under paragraph (a) and meets all requirements for the
107 capturing, keeping, possessing, or exhibiting of reptiles of
108 concern, but shall not require payment of an additional annual
109 fee.
110 (2) Such permits or licenses permit may be revoked by the
111 Fish and Wildlife Conservation commission upon violation of any
112 of the provisions of ss. 372.86-372.92 372.86-372.91 or upon
113 violation of any of the rules and regulations prescribed by the
114 said commission relating to the capturing, keeping, possessing,
115 and exhibiting of any poisonous and venomous reptiles or
116 reptiles of concern. Such permits or licenses shall be for an
117 annual period to be prescribed by the said commission and shall
118 be renewable from year to year upon the payment of said fee and
119 shall be subject to the same conditions, limitations, and
120 restrictions as herein set forth in this section. All moneys
121 received pursuant to this section shall be deposited into the
122 State Game Trust Fund to be used to implement, administer,
123 enforce, and educate the public regarding ss. 372.86-372.92.
124 Section 3. Section 372.88, Florida Statutes, is amended to
125 read:
126 372.88 Bond required, amount.--No person, party, firm, or
127 corporation shall exhibit to the public either with or without
128 charge, or admission fee any poisonous or venomous reptile or
129 Class I wildlife, as defined by rule of the Fish and Wildlife
130 Conservation Commission, without having first posted a good and
131 sufficient bond in writing in the penal sum of $10,000 $1,000
132 payable to the commission Governor of the state, and the
133 Governor's successors in office, conditioned that such exhibitor
134 will indemnify and save harmless all persons from injury or
135 damage from such poisonous or venomous reptiles or Class I
136 wildlife so exhibited and shall fully comply with all laws of
137 the state and all rules and regulations of the Fish and Wildlife
138 Conservation commission governing the capturing, keeping,
139 possessing, or exhibiting of poisonous or venomous reptiles or
140 Class I wildlife; provided, however, that the aggregate
141 liability of the surety for all such injuries or damages shall,
142 in no event, exceed the penal sum of the said bond. The surety
143 for the said bond must be a surety company authorized to do
144 business under the laws of the state or in lieu of such a
145 surety, cash in the sum of $10,000 $1,000 may be posted with the
146 said commission to ensure compliance with the conditions of the
147 said bond.
148 Section 4. Sections 372.89, 372.90, 372.901, and 372.91,
149 Florida Statutes, are repealed.
150 Section 5. Section 372.911, Florida Statutes, is
151 renumbered as section 372.0715, Florida Statutes.
152 Section 6. Section 372.92, Florida Statutes, is amended to
153 read:
154 372.92 Rules and regulations; penalties.--
155 (1) The Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission may
156 prescribe such other rules and regulations as it may deem
157 necessary to prevent the escape of poisonous and venomous
158 reptiles or reptiles of concern, either in connection of
159 construction of such cages or otherwise to carry out the intent
160 of ss. 372.86-372.88 372.86-372.91.
161 (2) A person who knowingly releases a nonnative venomous
162 reptile or reptile of concern to the wild or who through gross
163 negligence allows a nonnative venomous reptile or reptile of
164 concern to escape commits a Level Three violation, punishable as
165 provided in s. 372.935.
166 Section 7. Section 372.935, Florida Statutes, is amended
167 to read:
168 (Substantial rewording of section. See
169 s. 372.935, F.S., for present text.)
170 372.935 Captive wildlife penalties.--
171 (1) LEVEL ONE.--Unless otherwise provided by law, the
172 following classifications and penalties apply:
173 (a) A person commits a Level One violation if he or she
174 violates any of the following provisions:
175 1. Rules or orders of the commission requiring free
176 permits or other authorizations to possess captive wildlife.
177 2. Rules or orders of the commission relating to the
178 filing of reports or other documents required of persons who are
179 licensed to possess captive wildlife.
180 3. Rules or orders of the commission requiring permits to
181 possess captive wildlife for which a fee is charged, when the
182 person being charged was issued the permit and the permit has
183 expired less than 1 year prior to the violation.
184 (b) Any person cited for committing any offense classified
185 as a Level One violation commits a noncriminal infraction,
186 punishable as provided in this section.
187 (c) Any person cited for committing a noncriminal
188 infraction specified in paragraph (a) shall be cited to appear
189 before the county court. The civil penalty for any noncriminal
190 infraction is $50 if the person cited has not previously been
191 found guilty of a Level One violation and $250 if the person
192 cited has previously been found guilty of a Level One violation,
193 except as otherwise provided in this subsection. Any person
194 cited for failing to have a required permit or license shall pay
195 an additional civil penalty in the amount of the license fee
196 required.
197 (d) Any person cited for an infraction under this
198 subsection may:
199 1. Post a bond, which shall be equal in amount to the
200 applicable civil penalty; or
201 2. Sign and accept a citation indicating a promise to
202 appear before the county court. The officer may indicate on the
203 citation the time and location of the scheduled hearing and
204 shall indicate the applicable civil penalty.
205 (e) Any person charged with a noncriminal infraction under
206 this subsection may:
207 1. Pay the civil penalty, either by mail or in person,
208 within 30 days after the date of receiving the citation; or
209 2. If the person has posted bond, forfeit bond by not
210 appearing at the designated time and location.
211 (f) If the person cited follows either of the procedures
212 in subparagraph (e)1. or subparagraph (e)2., he or she shall be
213 deemed to have admitted the infraction and to have waived his or
214 her right to a hearing on the issue of commission of the
215 infraction. Such admission shall not be used as evidence in any
216 other proceedings except to determine the appropriate fine for
217 any subsequent violations.
218 (g) Any person who willfully refuses to post bond or
219 accept and sign a summons commits a misdemeanor of the second
220 degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. Any
221 person who fails to pay the civil penalty specified in this
222 subsection within 30 days after being cited for a noncriminal
223 infraction or to appear before the court pursuant to this
224 subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree,
225 punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
226 (h) Any person electing to appear before the county court
227 or who is required to appear shall be deemed to have waived the
228 limitations on the civil penalty specified in paragraph (c). The
229 court, after a hearing, shall make a determination as to whether
230 an infraction has been committed. If the commission of an
231 infraction has been proven, the court may impose a civil penalty
232 not less than those amounts in paragraph (c) and not to exceed
233 $500.
234 (i) At a hearing under this chapter, the commission of a
235 charged infraction must be proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
236 (j) If a person is found by the hearing official to have
237 committed an infraction, she or he may appeal that finding to
238 the circuit court.
239 (2) LEVEL TWO.--Unless otherwise provided by law, the
240 following classifications and penalties apply:
241 (a) A person commits a Level Two violation if he or she
242 violates any of the following provisions:
243 1. Unless otherwise stated in subsection (1), rules or
244 orders of the commission that require a person to pay a fee to
245 obtain a permit to possess captive wildlife or that require the
246 maintenance of records relating to captive wildlife.
247 2. Rules or orders of the commission relating to captive
248 wildlife not specified in subsection (1) or subsection (3).
249 3. Rules or orders of the commission that require housing
250 of wildlife in a safe manner when a violation results in an
251 escape of wildlife other than Class I wildlife.
252 4. Section 372.86, relating to capturing, keeping,
253 possessing, transporting, or exhibiting venomous reptiles or
254 reptiles of concern.
255 5. Section 372.87, relating to requiring a license or
256 permit for the capturing, keeping, possessing, or exhibiting of
257 venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern.
258 6. Section 372.88, relating to bonding requirements for
259 public exhibits of venomous reptiles.
260 7. Section 372.92, relating to commission rules and
261 regulations to prevent the escape of venomous reptiles or
262 reptiles of concern.
263 8. Section 372.921, relating to exhibition or sale of
264 wildlife.
265 9. Section 372.922, relating to personal possession of
266 wildlife.
267 (b) A person who commits any offense classified as a Level
268 Two violation and who has not been convicted of a Level Two or
269 higher violation within the past 3 years commits a misdemeanor
270 of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s.
271 775.083.
272 (c) Unless otherwise stated in this subsection, a person
273 who commits any offense classified as a Level Two violation
274 within a 3-year period of any previous conviction of a Level Two
275 or higher violation commits a misdemeanor of the first degree,
276 punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083 with a
277 minimum mandatory fine of $250.
278 (d) Unless otherwise stated in this subsection, a person
279 who commits any offense classified as a Level Two violation
280 within a 5-year period of any two previous convictions of Level
281 Two or higher violations commits a misdemeanor of the first
282 degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, with
283 a minimum mandatory fine of $500 and a suspension of all
284 licenses issued under this chapter related to captive wildlife
285 for 1 year.
286 (e) A person who commits any offense classified as a Level
287 Two violation within a 10-year period of any three previous
288 convictions of Level Two or higher violations commits a
289 misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s.
290 775.082 or s. 775.083, with a minimum mandatory fine of $750 and
291 a suspension of all licenses issued under this chapter related
292 to captive wildlife for 3 years.
293 (3) LEVEL THREE.--Unless otherwise provided by law, the
294 following classifications and penalties apply:
295 (a) A person commits a Level Three violation if he or she
296 violates any of the following provisions:
297 1. Rules or orders of the commission that require housing
298 of wildlife in a safe manner when a violation results in an
299 escape of Class I wildlife.
300 2. Rules or orders of the commission related to captive
301 wildlife when the violation results in serious bodily injury to
302 another person by captive wildlife that consists of a physical
303 condition that creates a substantial risk of death, serious
304 personal disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the
305 function of any bodily member or organ.
306 3. Rules or orders of the commission relating to the use
307 of gasoline or other chemical or gaseous substances on wildlife.
308 4. Rules or orders of the commission prohibiting the
309 release of wildlife for which only conditional possession is
310 allowed.
311 5. Rules or orders of the commission prohibiting knowingly
312 entering false information on an application for a license or
313 permit when the license or permit is to possess wildlife in
314 captivity.
315 6. Section 372.265, relating to illegal importation or
316 introduction of foreign wildlife.
317 7. Section 370.081, relating to the illegal importation
318 and possession of nonindigenous marine plants and animals.
319 8. Section 372.92, relating to release or escape of
320 nonnative venomous reptiles or reptiles of concern.
321 9. Rules or orders of the commission relating to the
322 importation, possession, or release of fish and wildlife for
323 which possession is prohibited.
324 (b)1. A person who commits any offense classified as a
325 Level Three violation and who has not been convicted of a Level
326 Three or higher violation within the past 10 years commits a
327 misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s.
328 775.082 or s. 775.083.
329 2. A person who commits any offense classified as a Level
330 Three violation within a 10-year period of any previous
331 conviction of a Level Three or higher violation commits a
332 misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s.
333 775.082 or s. 775.083, with a minimum mandatory fine of $750 and
334 permanent revocation of all licenses or permits to possess
335 captive wildlife issued under this chapter.
336 (4) LEVEL FOUR.--Unless otherwise provided by law, the
337 following classifications and penalties apply:
338 (a) A person commits a Level Four violation if he or she
339 violates any Level Three provision after the permanent
340 revocation of a license or permit.
341 (b) A person who commits any offense classified as a Level
342 Four violation commits a felony of the third degree, punishable
343 as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
344 (5) SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF LICENSE.--The court may
345 order the suspension or revocation of any license or permit
346 issued to a person to possess captive wildlife pursuant to this
347 chapter if that person commits a criminal offense or a
348 noncriminal infraction as specified under this section.
349 (6) CONVICTION DEFINED.--For purposes of this section, the
350 term "conviction" means any judicial disposition other than
351 acquittal or dismissal.
352 (7) COMMISSION LIMITATIONS.--Nothing in this section shall
353 limit the commission from suspending or revoking any license to
354 possess wildlife in captivity by administrative action in
355 accordance with chapter 120. For purposes of administrative
356 action, a conviction of a criminal offense shall mean any
357 judicial disposition other than acquittal or dismissal.
358 Section 8. Beginning in the 2007-2008 fiscal year, the sum
359 of $300,000 is appropriated from the State Game Trust Fund to
360 the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission on a recurring
361 basis to implement the provisions of this act.
362 Section 9. Except as otherwise expressly provided in this
363 act, this act shall take effect July 1, 2007.


CODING: Words stricken are deletions; words underlined are additions.
 
Somewhere in the writing it says all of these species or "hybrids thereof" .....they've covered all the bases believe me. :bandhead0
 
Tegus, Monitors, Iguanas next?

Several states are considering limits on ownership of some species. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission plans next year to consider ways to control several species, such as tegu lizards, monitors and black spiny-tailed iguanas.

"We're going to start with the larger lizards," said Hardin, the commission's non-native species coordinator. "They're big in the trade, and we have abundant evidence they can survive in Florida."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/fl-wildlife-trade-20101130,0,5936215.story?page=1
 
Has anyone heard of a new law being proposed that will require people who own species over the length of 6' to register and get specific permits? Some of these costing up to $450? Any info will be appreciated.
 
There are already permits for the banned species and they are banned according to species, not size. Therefore, necessitating a permit even if you happen to have a dwarf of any of the above.These permits are particularly difficult to acquire and one of them they are not even issuing any longer, of the two remaining permits, one is cost free and the other is $50 per year.
 
Nah I'm not talking about conditional species, I just heard a rumor that next year Florida wanted to put a size restriction on captive snakes and was curious if anyone has heard the same or if I should kick my employees butt for trying to mess with my head. Knowing him I may just have to kick his butt. Thanks anyways tho and hopefully we dont have to worry about some new bs law
 
I just recently got my conditional reptiles permit, and the inspector that did my inspection did not tell anything of that nature. I think its just a rumor....
 
Im starting the process of getting my conditional species permit. I was wondering what the inspection was like, anything specific they were interested in?
 
Every inspector is different, but the big things are enclosure construction and placement, paperwork, labeling and now they are really starting to crack down down on microchips.
 
a little confused

I am trying to figure out if Chameleons fall into the Class III category.

I am talking about CB Panther Chameleons (Furcifer pardalis) and CB Veiled Chameleons (Chamaeleo calyptratus)

The law is very vague when it comes to the definition of class III and what animals are actually Class III

I found this on http://myfwc.com/license/wildlife/captive-wildlife/



"A permit is required for personal possession, exhibition or sale of Class III wildlife. Class III wildlife are all species not listed as Class I or Class II; and not among those species that are specifically listed as not requiring a permit for personal possession in rule 68A-6.0022, FAC."

There is no formal list of Class III species. You must check the lists of Class I, Class II, and species not requiring a permit to determine if an animal in question is a Class III species. Florida residents 16 years of age and older may apply for permit to possess, exhibit or sell Class III wildlife.


Then on the same site it says


" Wildlife Not Requiring a Permit

The following species do not require a permit for personal possession as long as no other Rule or Statute applies. Examples include, but are not limited to, rules for Threatened or Endangered Species:

A. Reptiles or amphibians (nonvenomous, unprotected species that are NOT listed as endangered, threatened, species of special concern, conditional reptiles, or otherwise regulated)


So am I wrong to think that Furcifer pardalis and Chamaeleo calyptratus do not require a class III permit to exhibit because they are reptiles that are nonvenomous, unprotected and are not a reptile of concern???

or do you still need a class III license to sell these animals at shows even though you don't need a permit to keep them...?
 
It took me a while to figure this out. All animals not listed in class 1 or 2 are automatically class three. Some class 3 animals can be kept privately without a permit. However, all the permit does is allow you to keep these animals privately in your home. If you want to exhibit or sell any animal that is not listed as class 1 or class 2, permit or not, even if it's just the family pet ball python on craigslist; you technically need the lisence.
 
Yes, if you are going to sell even one of them, you will need a commercial Class III.
 
It doesnt matter. If you are accepting money for a class III, even if you dont need a permit to keep it, you need the license.
 
She's right, if you sell,"rehome", adopt out, trade, or barter any animals via any venue (CL, newspaper, reptile show, local sale)that are considered class III, you need a commercial class III permit.
 
Hey guys new-ish user here, lurked prior to this and just recently made an account. So, my understanding of the laws now in Fl is that it's impossible to get a ROC license or at least no reason to now for retics (dwarfs, regular or otherwise) unless you're someone who can make an excuse for having one ie: run a reptile store or have an educational endeavor of some sort since personal possession of any of the now considered "conditional reptiles" is completely prohibited. Is there any way around the legality of this? Thanks for any help received really bummed out as of right now.
 
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