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Bad Guy Nicole Norton (Howlin Gale' Dragons)

Sorry to disapoint DAND I will never get out of the Hobby I love and saying "and will be "harassed" until you are gone. " is a threat.

And I did not take the pictures of the dragons for sale nor have I touched them


Have a nice day I am done posting as as always it gets out of control and turns into mud slinging
 
Sorry to disapoint DAND I will never get out of the Hobby I love and saying "and will be "harassed" until you are gone. " is a threat.

And I did not take the pictures of the dragons for sale nor have I touched them


Have a nice day I am done posting as as always it gets out of control and turns into mud slinging

Big difference between mud slinging and stating the truth lol. Haven't seen any mud slinging in here (except of course by you Ms I am the victim stop picking on me)
 
Sorry to disapoint DAND I will never get out of the Hobby I love and saying "and will be "harassed" until you are gone. " is a threat.

Take it as a threat, take it rectally for all I care, it is going to happen. I (and I'm sure there will be a number of others willing to help) will do my best to inform as many people as I can of what kind of person you are; a liar, a thief and a cheat. You may never leave this hobby but rest assured I will not relent. :dgrin:
 
I've only come back to this thread to see DragonWhisperZ's response to whether or not they have partnered with Nicole. Since she's now left the thread (was here viewing the last time I was in here) without leaving a comment?? I hate to assume too early.

All I know is I was recently in the market for a dragon. I saw a few that looked awesome in the pics....then I realized they were for sale by Howlin Gale Dragons and I quickly moved on. I did NOT want to be one to come to this thread to be treated like SO MANY past customers that she's :censored: all over when they had obviously valid complaints.

A point brought up earlier, about the ability to "lock" threads, seems extremely valid. Personally, I tend to stray away from anyone selling via a locked thread because it always makes me worry. If someone has this bad of a reputation, it would be awesome to see their rights to "lock" be revoked.
 
Asking a favor is a crime?

Most recently, I had Nicole offer to help me sell a few dragons. I have had a relapse of illness, which I will not discuss, & have been pretty ill. Nicole is a friend of ours and has been for many years. She is a very sensitive person, who does get defensive over people critizing her for no good reason. The last bit of posts on her prob had her crying from all the nonsense posts put up, which I may have done when I was her age. The BOI is not intended for people to harass other breeders, and they wonder why noone wants to support them any longer. It's for practical, no nonsense posts, not a chance for people that have nothing to do all day, to bash others. If you must, do that off the BOI.
As far as affiliation goes, neither "licensed" companys, Dragonz Whispers Or Howlin Gale, have a business affiliatioin. Just as "Sunshine Dragons" when Bruce Kalish owned it, & Dragonz Whispers did not have a "business affliliation". We are all freinds trying to work together to provide genetically sound dragons, to the public. Also introducing how nice dragons can be for pets in areas across the world who would of never thought on purchaing a dragon for their child or themselves for that matter.
I will admit that I should have posted those dragons myself, but feeling so ill, with other personal events going on in our lives, I really appreciated the offer of help. Nicole being the kind person that she usually is, when people arent bashing her for nothing, offered to help me. It takes a pretty good hearted person to offer to do such a thing after all the misunderstandings & fights we've been through.
The e-mail that was sent to me by Nicole from the previous incidents in this post were about another dragon. All these e-mails were going on at the same time and after all was said and done, Nicole actually explained to me in detail, what the e-mails related to. Me being out of the circle of dragons for over a year now, Had to look up old records to see what she was talking about. I still don't have all the answers, but I do no that her intentions where not derogitory in any way, shape or form. At one point and time she may have gotten herself mixed up with a bad person or two, but we learn from our mistakes and don't expect for people to continously remind us of those mistakes. None of us are perfect, and just imagine if all the people on here knew your mistakes and bashed you for them continuously. That is not fair to anyone, and if you really think it over, I'm sure everyone of you could think of something privite, you wouldn't want a gossip colum, like this to know.
That being said, the pics were taken by myself, and I added a face pic of the female HHTLB to show her eye color. It was taken under lights and her head and beard were in shed at that time. Anyone who knows how to take a good, honest looking pics of dragons, should of picked up, that it was taken under a light, and not doc'ed up as so suggested. All dragons that were posted for me were produced by Rob & Vicky Dachiu.
All in all, I honest & truely have to say that Howlin Gale has some extrodinary dragons, yes we did sell her 3, but most from other breeders as well. Not to long ago I stopped by her facility as I live near, and her collection of dragons made me think twice about starting all over again after selling off all our dragons. I do know she has her dragons checked by a certified exotic vet as we have used the same vets at one time or another. I have bought dragons from her in the past, & have had some very nice "core" breeders come from her. I had one pass from the stress of moving. It happens people, dragons are living, breathing animals & are not invincable.
If you continue to bash Nicole for no good reason, I feel, as well as quite a few larger breeders, that your all being petty. This all started over a dragon that didn't produce hypo's, which all the blame was put on the fathers side. How do any of you know the exact clear cut genetics of the mother? You don't, and for anyone to say that they do is obserd. Im truly glad not to be able to breed any longer, just from some of you people who bash for no good reason. We are one of the past breeders that truely have a love & passion for bearded dragons, just as Nicole does for her pets. They aren't just breeders to her, they are her babies, her pets and she always has one with her no matter where she goes, or what shes doing, if possible. How many of you can say that? Some of her dragons will actually sleep with her, and snuggle up. She has a true love for them, and they feel that sense of love and passion, which they are able to do without a doubt. If you have good sense people, lay off the little things and move on to the stuff that actually has merit.
God Bless you all & best wishes,
Rhea Englund
 
Sorry about the spelling people. Typing fast is not my thing, and forgot to do a spell check. Also if any of you have specific questions you'd like me to answer, please feel free to e-mail me, but I will not go on reading this bash session.
 
WOW. A time or three is considered making a mistake.... REPEATEDLY PHOTOSHOPPING & MISREPRESENTING YOUR STOCK IS INTENTIONAL & UNEXCUSABLE. She has been called out on a ton of shady underhanded things & you expect us to think she's genuinely a sweet caring person??? HAHAHAHA
Good luck when her "selling off your dragons" goes south on you.
I do hope that you get better soon though...
 
Take it as a threat, take it rectally for all I care, it is going to happen. I (and I'm sure there will be a number of others willing to help) will do my best to inform as many people as I can of what kind of person you are; a liar, a thief and a cheat. You may never leave this hobby but rest assured I will not relent.

Wow man, are you for real? What an admission to slander & deformation of character. Think before you post words like this, as all you have for evidence are "opinions" of others, no hard evidence. Sounds just a little like your intimidated.
 
bad move... First off it isn't slander if its true... Your defending Nicole ONLY for the fact she is helping you out now... But almost 2 months ago you were seperating yourself from her & claiming you have nothing to do with her...
:shootfoot

Wow man, are you for real? What an admission to slander & deformation of character. Think before you post words like this, as all you have for evidence are "opinions" of others, no hard evidence. Sounds just a little like your intimidated.
 
She is a very sensitive person, who does get defensive over people critizing her for no good reason.
:rofl:

The last bit of posts on her prob had her crying from all the nonsense posts put up, which I may have done when I was her age.


:nopity:

The BOI is not intended for people to harass other breeders, and they wonder why noone wants to support them any longer. It's for practical, no nonsense posts, not a chance for people that have nothing to do all day, to bash others. If you must, do that off the BOI.


No the BOI is intended to inform others of the dishonest actions made by dishonest breeders like nichole.

I will admit that I should have posted those dragons myself, but feeling so ill, with other personal events going on in our lives, I really appreciated the offer of help. Nicole being the kind person that she usually is, when people arent bashing her for nothing, offered to help me. It takes a pretty good hearted person to offer to do such a thing after all the misunderstandings & fights we've been through.

Again, :rofl:

At one point and time she may have gotten herself mixed up with a bad person or two, and don't expect for people to continously remind us of those mistakes. None of us are perfect, and just imagine if all the people on here knew your mistakes and bashed you for them continuously.

May have? Good grief get real.

That would be fine and well but she hasn't learned from her mistakes. :NoNo:

I feel, as well as quite a few larger breeders, that your all being petty.

Im truly glad not to be able to breed any longer, just from some of you people who bash for no good reason.

Apparently someone needs to remove their blinders. :rolleyes:
 
This just has been my experience with Nicole, and yes, man have we had our fights. But I do not see a "ton" of bad posts, just the same people making the same comments. Sorry, but it's the truth..
 
Wow man, are you for real? What an admission to slander & deformation of character. Think before you post words like this, as all you have for evidence are "opinions" of others, no hard evidence. Sounds just a little like your intimidated.

:lol01: Please take you own advice as your post is probably the most idiotic post I have read in a long time. :notallthe
 
bad move... First off it isn't slander if its true... Your defending Nicole ONLY for the fact she is helping you out now... But almost 2 months ago you were seperating yourself from her & claiming you have nothing to do with her...
:shootfoot

I to would like to know why you had a change of heart??..Nicole how many other people locked their adds besides you and Ed??...You have always felt like you were right and everyone else was wrong..How hard headed do you have to be to realize your a very shady person who who has morals that are on the negative side of the scale..Its not just one person saying this Nicole..You literally have a whole community that does not like you cause your a liar and a cheat...And Dragonz whispers you are definetly on my do not buy from list...I would never buy from anyone who associates with Nicole...You really should realize that friendship is gonna cost you money and Nicole will not care..
 
This just has been my experience with Nicole, and yes, man have we had our fights. But I do not see a "ton" of bad posts, just the same people making the same comments. Sorry, but it's the truth..

Yeah it is the truth..Truth is Nicole only cares about $$$..Not her dragons or her customers...
 
This just has been my experience with Nicole, and yes, man have we had our fights. But I do not see a "ton" of bad posts, just the same people making the same comments. Sorry, but it's the truth..

Maybe you should re-read the other BOI BADGUY threads about "sweet" Nicole.
Numerous times caught photoshopping,misrepresenting genetics,horrible customer service... It wasn't just a one time thing it's an every 2 month thing. The best was Ed & herself telling on each other about how the basically scam people ... It's sickening...
 
DAND, you don't want to start with me. I just told you as I see it. How old are you? JW cause your "rectally" comment and the way you tried to find fault in my post, just sounds like something a young person would do. I have absolutely no reason to lie to any of you. Nothing to gain or loose. We've always been honest with people, even if we were wrong or made a mistake. Our reputation stands for itself, and it will rest there as well.
All I'm saying, is for people to check things out for themselves before believing the words of others who continue to pick apart and bash people.
My eyes are more wide open then what anyone would ever believe. I've seen some photo fix ups on here done by other regular people that post, that noone says a word about. I know my dragon pics inside and out, and some of these posts that are showing super deep reds are forgetting that when they fix a photo, they are forgetting that they are coving up the drags side bars or what not with red color, or their adding contrast & high levels of saturation. Go pick on them for awhile, give yourself something to do please..
 
Maybe you should re-read the other BOI BADGUY threads about "sweet" Nicole.
Numerous times caught photoshopping,misrepresenting genetics,horrible customer service... It wasn't just a one time thing it's an every 2 month thing. The best was Ed & herself telling on each other about how the basically scam people ... It's sickening...

:iagree:....Nicole tried to be a wolf in sheeps clothing...She got busted and now she just preys on people who do not know any better...
 
If that's true then you should call them out...Why would you not...
WHY ARE YOU POINTING THE FINGER @ EVERYONE ELSE?
Why is it that you were doing "damage control" less than 2 months ago & now she's the answer to all your questions??

DAND, you don't want to start with me. I just told you as I see it. How old are you? JW cause your "rectally" comment and the way you tried to find fault in my post, just sounds like something a young person would do. I have absolutely no reason to lie to any of you. Nothing to gain or loose. We've always been honest with people, even if we were wrong or made a mistake. Our reputation stands for itself, and it will rest there as well.
All I'm saying, is for people to check things out for themselves before believing the words of others who continue to pick apart and bash people.
My eyes are more wide open then what anyone would ever believe. I've seen some photo fix ups on here done by other regular people that post, that noone says a word about. I know my dragon pics inside and out, and some of these posts that are showing super deep reds are forgetting that when they fix a photo, they are forgetting that they are coving up the drags side bars or what not with red color, or their adding contrast & high levels of saturation. Go pick on them for awhile, give yourself something to do please..
 
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