Asking a favor is a crime?
Most recently, I had Nicole offer to help me sell a few dragons. I have had a relapse of illness, which I will not discuss, & have been pretty ill. Nicole is a friend of ours and has been for many years. She is a very sensitive person, who does get defensive over people critizing her for no good reason. The last bit of posts on her prob had her crying from all the nonsense posts put up, which I may have done when I was her age. The BOI is not intended for people to harass other breeders, and they wonder why noone wants to support them any longer. It's for practical, no nonsense posts, not a chance for people that have nothing to do all day, to bash others. If you must, do that off the BOI.
As far as affiliation goes, neither "licensed" companys, Dragonz Whispers Or Howlin Gale, have a business affiliatioin. Just as "Sunshine Dragons" when Bruce Kalish owned it, & Dragonz Whispers did not have a "business affliliation". We are all freinds trying to work together to provide genetically sound dragons, to the public. Also introducing how nice dragons can be for pets in areas across the world who would of never thought on purchaing a dragon for their child or themselves for that matter.
I will admit that I should have posted those dragons myself, but feeling so ill, with other personal events going on in our lives, I really appreciated the offer of help. Nicole being the kind person that she usually is, when people arent bashing her for nothing, offered to help me. It takes a pretty good hearted person to offer to do such a thing after all the misunderstandings & fights we've been through.
The e-mail that was sent to me by Nicole from the previous incidents in this post were about another dragon. All these e-mails were going on at the same time and after all was said and done, Nicole actually explained to me in detail, what the e-mails related to. Me being out of the circle of dragons for over a year now, Had to look up old records to see what she was talking about. I still don't have all the answers, but I do no that her intentions where not derogitory in any way, shape or form. At one point and time she may have gotten herself mixed up with a bad person or two, but we learn from our mistakes and don't expect for people to continously remind us of those mistakes. None of us are perfect, and just imagine if all the people on here knew your mistakes and bashed you for them continuously. That is not fair to anyone, and if you really think it over, I'm sure everyone of you could think of something privite, you wouldn't want a gossip colum, like this to know.
That being said, the pics were taken by myself, and I added a face pic of the female HHTLB to show her eye color. It was taken under lights and her head and beard were in shed at that time. Anyone who knows how to take a good, honest looking pics of dragons, should of picked up, that it was taken under a light, and not doc'ed up as so suggested. All dragons that were posted for me were produced by Rob & Vicky Dachiu.
All in all, I honest & truely have to say that Howlin Gale has some extrodinary dragons, yes we did sell her 3, but most from other breeders as well. Not to long ago I stopped by her facility as I live near, and her collection of dragons made me think twice about starting all over again after selling off all our dragons. I do know she has her dragons checked by a certified exotic vet as we have used the same vets at one time or another. I have bought dragons from her in the past, & have had some very nice "core" breeders come from her. I had one pass from the stress of moving. It happens people, dragons are living, breathing animals & are not invincable.
If you continue to bash Nicole for no good reason, I feel, as well as quite a few larger breeders, that your all being petty. This all started over a dragon that didn't produce hypo's, which all the blame was put on the fathers side. How do any of you know the exact clear cut genetics of the mother? You don't, and for anyone to say that they do is obserd. Im truly glad not to be able to breed any longer, just from some of you people who bash for no good reason. We are one of the past breeders that truely have a love & passion for bearded dragons, just as Nicole does for her pets. They aren't just breeders to her, they are her babies, her pets and she always has one with her no matter where she goes, or what shes doing, if possible. How many of you can say that? Some of her dragons will actually sleep with her, and snuggle up. She has a true love for them, and they feel that sense of love and passion, which they are able to do without a doubt. If you have good sense people, lay off the little things and move on to the stuff that actually has merit.
God Bless you all & best wishes,
Rhea Englund