Bad Guy Reptidoc Dr. Darryl G. Walker

[Em Wright]

I have been attacked. I dont care if you think you are not attacking me. Do you really feel that everything that has come out of your mouth has been nice:

These are just a few nice things you had to say about me. Not to mention the other 30 people that have put there 2 cents in about me. I am not this bad man you people are making me out to be.

I'm not making you out to be anything... you made yourself out that way. And I'm sorry, but any man who refuses his animals medical attention when they are blatantly ill is a horrid person. I'm not picking you out of a crowd, I'm saying I feel about someone who has admitted neglecting the animals in their care. I'm sorry if that offends you, but it is my opinion.

Yes I did provide Doc of pics of the snake dead in transit. Also as I have already stated when I later asked Doc about the snakes hatch dates he gave me some usless info. He could only provide me with a 5-9 month gap of how old all of them were. I asked him there ages cause of how small they were. I kind of hinted around about this to him when I asked about there hatch dates. He told me they would be fine.

Do you still have the pics of the dead snake?

Yes I still have all of there records on my software. But no I do not know how to take a screen pic. Yes 6 of them are still in my possesion. I have already stated how I think the Lavender Motley will be next to go. She should be right about a year old and she is still only 13g. The others are twice her size or more. If you tell me how to take a screen shot I would be happy to post all of the info I can gather.

The link Judy provided is a great tutorial. It will help you be able to take a screen shot.

Thank you for your 2 cents. This is what I have been saying. This is about Doc not me. This thread is now 14 pages long. Doc has commented on it twice. The whole he is right because he is keeping his mouth shut was over many pages ago. He will not come back with anything because he knows he is wrong. Just as I know he is wrong.

You know he's wrong? You have no proof. Just your word and I'm sorry, but some of the things I've heard you say... well, I just can't bring myself to trust your word.

I also took down all of my ads when I put the last snake down. Not that anyone would of notice that my ads have been down for over a week. I do not and will not sell sick snakes. Though I believe that all of my own stock are fine. Its just the ones from Doc that are still in quarintine that I worry about. As I stated before I never tried to sell them when I thought they were sick. The ad that Doc posted of mine was not his snakes in that ad. Do any of you see a Hypo, Hybino, Lavender Motley, Ultramel Blood and so on in that ad. No I dont think so.

You DID have them all for sale though. I saw that ad and even went looking for it on CS.com. The only thing I found were ads deleted by you for the reason that they were "Sold" and some near the top that were marked "Make New Ad". Do you even have any of these snakes anymore? It might be good for you to post some pictures of any you do still have. Especially if you think they're taking a turn for the worst.

I also found this! http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94730 It's a link to a For Sale that Doc had posted for an Ultramel Blood. Is this one of the snakes in question? What about this one for a Golddust Motley? http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94738

Here's a page with a few more adds, not sure if Josh purchased any of them... http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=13&order=desc&page=33

 

[Reptileman81]

Ok this is such a pain in the butt let me say this. I am not the most computer savvy person. First I have to copy my screen, then send it to photobucket, then resize it, then send it back to my computer and then finally put it on here. Wow that was a mouth full lol. But I will do what it takes to show my side.

First you will see a pic of random info about the snake. I am sorry but disregard the hatch date on there. As I said before Doc could not provide me with any hatch dates. So to have something on my records I just put random dates.

Second and third are the feed records. the 2 times it says no feed is because she was in shed. For some reason when I go to that part of the software it does not display my notes. But else were in the software it says that she was in shed.

The forth pic is of here weights. I weight about every 3 months for most of my animals.

 

[Reptileman81]

Here is one last pic on some info. Here you see her shed records. Now tell me if Doc did not sell me some runts or undersized snakes then how is this one still so small. She is the only one left that is bad off. She still eats and is for the most part health but she will not put any weight on or length.

I will post some info of the other snakes that died. This Lavender Motley is again still alive.

 

[martin-bernstein]

Try this...
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201374

Hey guys, Josh has redeemed himself! Jut look at the ONE Good Guy thread about him. That must mean that he's a fantastic guy. We should all stop bothering Josh, because I think we're really hurting his feelings

 

[martin-bernstein]

Why dont you people read this thread.

http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170989&highlight=Reptileman81

Meant to quote this post...

 

[Reptileman81]

These pics are of the same kind of info. Random info page, fed records and weight.

This Amel is the replacement of the one that died in transit. This one did not look much better and as of said he died so he did not turn out much better.

Once again please disregard the hatch date. I do not know when it hatched thanks to Docs poor records or lack of caring to give me the records.

 

[Shiari]

Sometimes you feed 3 days apart.... and sometimes an entire MONTH? No wonder your animals are getting sick!

 

[Em Wright]

She didn't put on any weight? Maybe because you weren't feeding her often enough....

3/10 to 3/15 = 5 days
3/15 to 3/23 = 9 days
3/23 to 4/1 = 9 days
4/1 to 4/7 = 6 days
4/17 to 4/9 = 2 days
4/9 to 4/15 = 6 days
4/15 to 4/23 = 8 days
4/23 = 5/21 = Almost a month!
5/21 to 6/3 = 10 days
6/3 to 6/12 = 8 days
6/12 to 6/15 = 3 days (Gained NO weight)
6/15 to 6/22 = 7 days
6/22 to 6/29 = 7 days
6/29 to 7/4 = 5 days
7/4 to 7/9 = 5 days
7/9 to 7/20 = 11 days
7/20 to 7/25 = 5 days (did not feed)
7/25 to 8/5 = 11 days
8/5 to 8/16 = 11 days
8/16 to 8/25 = 9 days
8/25 to 9/2 = 8 days
9/2 to 9/9 = 7 days
9/9 to 9/14 = 5 days
9/14 to 9/28 = 7 days

What's with the whole month without food? Did you just not put in any record or did you actually just not feed her for a month? Either your records are iffy (meaning not 100% accurate) or the problem with these animals is still on your end.

(Someone please correct me if I made any typos or got the math wrong somewhere - math is not my strong suit!)

 

[Reptileman81]

Those were some of the ads. I went to try and look at the main ad but can not find it yet. Those ads make me even more mad at Doc. He helped me put together a few different snakes. That worked out so well for me "not". He charged me for that Goldust Motley $85. His ad says $75. Then the Hypo with hets ad says $40. He charged me $45. I do have a post that says what I paid him broken down. I wonder where else he ripped me off at.

http://www.cornsnakes.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=298307

The Amel with hets ad is the one. He states there that he had 2 males. That is what I got. One first died in transit and the second died less then 2 months later. That is the info I just posted is for that Amel.

 

[starsevol]

She didn't put on any weight? Maybe because you weren't feeding her often enough....

3/10 to 3/15 = 5 days
3/15 to 3/23 = 9 days
3/23 to 4/1 = 9 days
4/1 to 4/7 = 6 days
4/17 to 4/9 = 2 days
4/9 to 4/15 = 6 days
4/15 to 4/23 = 8 days
4/23 = 5/21 = Almost a month!
5/21 to 6/3 = 10 days
6/3 to 6/12 = 8 days
6/12 to 6/15 = 3 days (Gained NO weight)
6/15 to 6/22 = 7 days
6/22 to 6/29 = 7 days
6/29 to 7/4 = 5 days
7/4 to 7/9 = 5 days
7/9 to 7/20 = 11 days
7/20 to 7/25 = 5 days (did not feed)
7/25 to 8/5 = 11 days
8/5 to 8/16 = 11 days
8/16 to 8/25 = 9 days
8/25 to 9/2 = 8 days
9/2 to 9/9 = 7 days
9/9 to 9/14 = 5 days
9/14 to 9/28 = 7 days

What's with the whole month without food? Did you just not put in any record or did you actually just not feed her for a month? Either your records are iffy (meaning not 100% accurate) or the problem with these animals is still on your end.

(Someone please correct me if I made any typos or got the math wrong somewhere - math is not my strong suit!)

I see a huge problem right here. This feeding schedule really is not very good. No wonder they aren't growing! I might not be an expert but everything I have that is under a year old eats every 5 or 6 days (any day of the month ending in a 0 or a 5, works out best in months with 30 days, a little wonky in months with 28 or 31 days but my babies do pretty well on it, and I never forget to feed them).

My yearlings and females eat every 7 days. Yearlings on Wednesdays, and females on Saturdays.

And my males and one elderly overweight female eat every other Saturday.

I don't use a fancy computer program either, just a notebook.

 

[Reptileman81]

Sometimes you feed 3 days apart.... and sometimes an entire MONTH? No wonder your animals are getting sick!

I have had some of the best and biggest breeders and names in this industry tell me you should never routinly feed your snakes. A. they dont eat like that in the wild B. it becomes a chore when routinly feed then the love of watching them eat is replaced with and everyday chore.

I know what the chart says to feed. For the most part my babies and young adults eat around 5-7 days and my adults eat 7-10 days.

She didn't put on any weight? Maybe because you weren't feeding her often enough....

3/10 to 3/15 = 5 days
3/15 to 3/23 = 9 days
3/23 to 4/1 = 9 days
4/1 to 4/7 = 6 days
4/17 to 4/9 = 2 days
4/9 to 4/15 = 6 days
4/15 to 4/23 = 8 days
4/23 = 5/21 = Almost a month!
5/21 to 6/3 = 10 days
6/3 to 6/12 = 8 days
6/12 to 6/15 = 3 days (Gained NO weight)
6/15 to 6/22 = 7 days
6/22 to 6/29 = 7 days
6/29 to 7/4 = 5 days
7/4 to 7/9 = 5 days
7/9 to 7/20 = 11 days
7/20 to 7/25 = 5 days (did not feed)
7/25 to 8/5 = 11 days
8/5 to 8/16 = 11 days
8/16 to 8/25 = 9 days
8/25 to 9/2 = 8 days
9/2 to 9/9 = 7 days
9/9 to 9/14 = 5 days
9/14 to 9/28 = 7 days

What's with the whole month without food? Did you just not put in any record or did you actually just not feed her for a month? Either your records are iffy (meaning not 100% accurate) or the problem with these animals is still on your end.

(Someone please correct me if I made any typos or got the math wrong somewhere - math is not my strong suit!)

I had a trip of a live time that I could not turn down. I was out of town for 3 weeks. I have no one that I know in my area that know anything about snakes to come and feed my whole collection. So yes everyone went with out food. But as much as my girl friend hated it she watered them for me one a week. Once again sorry I do not have any sign notarized documents to back this up. Not that it matters. I give you all of this documents and still you find something that I did wrong. Besides she has eaten 30 mice or more in my care. In 6 months time with her eating atleast 30 mice that comes out to a mouse every 6 days. I am also not trying to feed them t6 much and make them over weight.

I just realized for I was told I feed my snakes to much now I am being told not enough. I am pretty much giving up nothing I do is good enough for you people. You want documents I provide them. The documents in your eyes are either fake or not good enough. Then I learn how to take pics of my computer screen (thanks Judy) and provide you will even more documents and you find something else to pick at me about.

What do you people want from me? Nothing makes you happy. Nothing even changes your mind in any way. I have done more then what is called for to prove I am right. i have jumped through every hoop you have asked me to. I have taken every insult you have dished out. Why dont we see some documents of Doc. Hell even just a bill of sale for god sakes. He is the one on trial. I stated this BOI about him. Yet no one has asked him for anything. If he was not the reputable name some think that he is you would be asking him everything as well. I am the only one that has shown you any proof of anything. He has only used his words and you believe everything that comes out of his mouth (or should I say fingers lol).

 

[bloodybaroness]

Dude, I'm gonna come right out and say it, this is not the hobby/business for you.

What do you people want from me? Nothing makes you happy.

Because nothing you are doing is right.

That feeding schedule is beyond horrible.

I know some people vary the feeding times a bit but that might mean pushing the days up or back by one or two. Not weeks and NEVER 3 day intervals.

B. it becomes a chore when routinly feed then the love of watching them eat is replaced with and everyday chore.

That makes me sick. It's never for the love/joy of watching them eat. You fed them routinely because it's right/healthy/humane thing to do for a pet.

I don't with hold kibble from my cat so I can enjoy watching him hork it down faster. Either would I ever with hold food from my snakes because I felt lazy that day, or wanted to make them put on a show when they eat.

 

[JudyC]

What do you people want from me? Nothing makes you happy. Nothing even changes your mind in any way. I have done more then what is called for to prove I am right.

Josh, I'm going to try and say this as politely as I can because it truly is not my intent to insult or "attack" or anything of the sort. But what I want to say will probably not go down easy.

You were right in your very first post when you said you did not have any proof of your accusations. (No pictures, no correspondence, no vet records) What you have posted since then doesn't prove anything except that you feed your snakes. I'm not going to jump on your particular schedule because I do believe there is more than one right way to care for these animals and just because someone keeps to a precise schedule doesn't mean everyone must.

BUT....your "proof" offered in some sketchy documents and your word is that you have refused to take a KNOWN sick animal to the vet. And that you WITHHELD FOOD for a MONTH from animals known to not be thriving, who very likely needed every bit of food you could offer.

If you consistently feed a baby snake and it does not grow, then it is YOUR responsibility to GET IT TO A VET and find out WHY it's not growing. Maybe they have a parasite that is robbing them of all the nutrition you are offering. But you won't ever know that because you'd rather just let them starve to death because a vet is too much trouble.

That is what your proof shows. If you had taken them to a vet and found out they were filled with parasites and the most likely source of those were the seller....then you'd have something to talk about here. But until then, all you have is your own assumptions.

Why dont we see some documents of Doc. Hell even just a bill of sale for god sakes. He is the one on trial. I stated this BOI about him. Yet no one has asked him for anything.

It's not his job to prove he DIDN'T send sick snakes. Especially after he received no word from you that there was even an issue with them until weeks/months after the fact. No seller in their right mind would accept responsibility for animals that are no longer under their care and control. He promptly replaced the one that died in shipment....and that is exactly what he would be expected to do. I see no fault there.

YOU are making the accusations, so it's on you to prove they are true. ONCE you provide some sort of evidence, then it is his job to rebut your evidence if he feels he should. But you haven't provided anything except your word. And he replied with his own word. That's all any of us have to go on. And that's what we WILL go on until REAL PROOF is offered up....BY YOU.

Prove to me you didn't sell me a sick snake last week. You can jump up and down and scream all you want that you've never sold me anything and don't even know who I am....but you can't PROVE you didn't sell me something. It would be MY burden to prove you did, by way of documents, paypal invoices, e-mail trails, and photographs. If I couldn't provide those, then I would not expect anyone to take my word for it either and I would not expect you to try and prove a negative, which can't be done.

 

[Piratepythons]

About your screen shots of the Vyper records. This really dosent prove anything because I have Vyper and can make the exact same sheets that you posted up. Who is to say that you did not make those records up today? Not saying that is what you did, just saying you cant really use that as evidence. That is why saving PM's, pics, emails is so important. Also by your own admissions you only had one DOA and that was replaced promptly. Then 2 months later the first of three more die? Why did you attempt to make any contact before then? You had to know that they were doing bad before that first one died. It just dosent add up. Doc's reputation aside, he rectified the first problem quickly and without issue. So why did you not notify him there were problems with your snakes? Also what proof do we have that the snakes in question are really even dead? Again this is why pics are so important. I am not going to speculate on your motives or accuse you of lying, because you may be telling the complete truth. I am just going to state that a lot of your story dosent add up and you have a total lack of evidence to backup anything that you claim. If this were court of law your case would be thrown out and you would have to pay court costs for wasting everyone's time. And that is what you have done. As well as destroy any positive reputation you have earned around here. Dont get me wrong it is very entertaining, but accomplishes nothing except put you in an unfavorable light.

 

[starsevol]

Dude, I'm gonna come right out and say it, this is not the hobby/business for you.



Because nothing you are doing is right.

That feeding schedule is beyond horrible.

I know some people vary the feeding times a bit but that might mean pushing the days up or back by one or two. Not weeks and NEVER 3 day intervals.



That makes me sick. It's never for the love/joy of watching them eat. You fed them routinely because it's right/healthy/humane thing to do for a pet.

I don't with hold kibble from my cat so I can enjoy watching him hork it down faster. Either would I ever with hold food from my snakes because I felt lazy that day, or wanted to make them put on a show when they eat.

Autumn, are you another nay sayer telling this boy to give up on his dream?
BTW, I agree with you completely. Even though I am a "no buddy".

 

[airenlow]

I'm loving the email address, Josh!

 

[starsevol]

I'm loving the email address, Josh!

Are you talking about that email address that is a MUST for EVERY "future professional"??
effefffeffertyeff?

 

[Amelanistic Orca]

Had to punt this one out there.... It's a fact multiple snakes were shipped in the first shipment and one was DOA... In agreeance; why didn't all die... Obviously, not because of a shipping error... I've shipped a hundred snakes outta Arizona in my life; year round and never a death... Says something to me... Sorry keyboard giants and showoffs!!!

 

[Southern Wolf]

I have had some of the best and biggest breeders and names in this industry tell me you should never routinly feed your snakes. A. they dont eat like that in the wild B. it becomes a chore when routinly feed then the love of watching them eat is replaced with and everyday chore.

I know what the chart says to feed. For the most part my babies and young adults eat around 5-7 days and my adults eat 7-10 days.


I had a trip of a live time that I could not turn down. I was out of town for 3 weeks. I have no one that I know in my area that know anything about snakes to come and feed my whole collection. So yes everyone went with out food. But as much as my girl friend hated it she watered them for me one a week. Once again sorry I do not have any sign notarized documents to back this up. Not that it matters. I give you all of this documents and still you find something that I did wrong. Besides she has eaten 30 mice or more in my care. In 6 months time with her eating atleast 30 mice that comes out to a mouse every 6 days. I am also not trying to feed them t6 much and make them over weight.

I just realized for I was told I feed my snakes to much now I am being told not enough. I am pretty much giving up nothing I do is good enough for you people. You want documents I provide them. The documents in your eyes are either fake or not good enough. Then I learn how to take pics of my computer screen (thanks Judy) and provide you will even more documents and you find something else to pick at me about.

What do you people want from me? Nothing makes you happy. Nothing even changes your mind in any way. I have done more then what is called for to prove I am right. i have jumped through every hoop you have asked me to. I have taken every insult you have dished out. Why dont we see some documents of Doc. Hell even just a bill of sale for god sakes. He is the one on trial. I stated this BOI about him. Yet no one has asked him for anything. If he was not the reputable name some think that he is you would be asking him everything as well. I am the only one that has shown you any proof of anything. He has only used his words and you believe everything that comes out of his mouth (or should I say fingers lol).

You would be correct that they dont eat every tuesday out in the wild... but did you also think that maybe the big name breeders dont feed every single snake on tuesday because of sheer numbers. Im working with only around 200 snakes and I have a three day span that I normally feed.

As to your trip of a lifetime... I hope it was worth it. You have proven that your animals always come second. I have worked way too hard to keep, feed, and breed my snakes.... to send babies off to you.

As to Doc being on trial here.... with your husbandry and babies going a month without food..... there is little doubt in my mind that they died because of something you did... not something Doc did.

 

[wyldwurm]

Josh, I'm going to try and say this as politely as I can because it truly is not my intent to insult or "attack" or anything of the sort. But what I want to say will probably not go down easy.

You were right in your very first post when you said you did not have any proof of your accusations. (No pictures, no correspondence, no vet records) What you have posted since then doesn't prove anything except that you feed your snakes. I'm not going to jump on your particular schedule because I do believe there is more than one right way to care for these animals and just because someone keeps to a precise schedule doesn't mean everyone must.

BUT....your "proof" offered in some sketchy documents and your word is that you have refused to take a KNOWN sick animal to the vet. And that you WITHHELD FOOD for a MONTH from animals known to not be thriving, who very likely needed every bit of food you could offer.

If you consistently feed a baby snake and it does not grow, then it is YOUR responsibility to GET IT TO A VET and find out WHY it's not growing. Maybe they have a parasite that is robbing them of all the nutrition you are offering. But you won't ever know that because you'd rather just let them starve to death because a vet is too much trouble.

That is what your proof shows. If you had taken them to a vet and found out they were filled with parasites and the most likely source of those were the seller....then you'd have something to talk about here. But until then, all you have is your own assumptions.



It's not his job to prove he DIDN'T send sick snakes. Especially after he received no word from you that there was even an issue with them until weeks/months after the fact. No seller in their right mind would accept responsibility for animals that are no longer under their care and control. He promptly replaced the one that died in shipment....and that is exactly what he would be expected to do. I see no fault there.

YOU are making the accusations, so it's on you to prove they are true. ONCE you provide some sort of evidence, then it is his job to rebut your evidence if he feels he should. But you haven't provided anything except your word. And he replied with his own word. That's all any of us have to go on. And that's what we WILL go on until REAL PROOF is offered up....BY YOU.

Prove to me you didn't sell me a sick snake last week. You can jump up and down and scream all you want that you've never sold me anything and don't even know who I am....but you can't PROVE you didn't sell me something. It would be MY burden to prove you did, by way of documents, paypal invoices, e-mail trails, and photographs. If I couldn't provide those, then I would not expect anyone to take my word for it either and I would not expect you to try and prove a negative, which can't be done.

Once again Judy, you took the words right out of my mouth. Excellent, insightful post!