YOU AND JAY sat right here and plotted on dan, by no means where you like thats a dumb idea. BOTH of you had pleny of info to share on how to do it and now you roll with him. how can any of them trust you. me and scott NEVER talked about dan like that, just how dans collection was nicer then his, but i already knew that cause you two told me. so you need to stop lieing on here i haven't said anything on here that was a lie or with scott in mind, I wanted everyone to see how your circle rolled and if anyone didn't have anything to offer you guys or you wanted.....then why be friends with them. the spider male that i had for one week was giving to me by scott cause he said kevin would try and use it agaist him somehow. even though he could prove where he got it, he just didnt want anymore beef. thats what was said to me and just what i told you when that happened. now for the money, I told jay i wanted to square up with knowing you where hiding for me, why i have no idea. i can only think you had something to hid from me or felt in the wrong for something. so dont sit on here telling people i owe you $100 bucks when you couldn't man up and see me. you have my #, email and know where i live and never once tried to hammer it out with me. go ahead and say i'm lieing on here, thats whatever to me. the fact the you two would ended up being who you are is what bothers me, i also trusted you guys and thought of you two as good friends. then all hell breaks lose and you jumped ship. have you two got around to plotting on me yet???