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Info Ashley Caspillo-SakaraGT4/Sakara *Possible Buyer Beware!*

This thread absolutely EXPLODED over the last few weeks. It took me a good 2 hours to read all 60 of those pages... Phew.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, so I'll just say a couple things. I know the whole rtb.net thing was earlier on, but I didn't even KNOW about the BOI until someone told me about the thread against Yvonne. I didn't know to look here for warnings against diseases, unethicals, and bad breeders. I think it's wrong to assume everyone does and care should be taken in our tight knit community to make newbies aware of such a resource. I don't care if you just STICKY the fact that the BOI exists with no specific thread in mind. At least newbies will be aware of the resource and can look up breeders themselves.

Another thing, I want Ashley to post a warning on her website. Not "more information to come" or any of that bull:censored: If her past customers are keeping up with her at all, that's one way they can be warned. Care should be taken for HER to post on the texas forums about this. We shouldn't have to be her god :censored: guardian angel. I haven't heard a single word from her about spreading this warning to people. You know why? Because in a year she's going to start up again when this thread is nice and buried and rtb.net and rtb.com are flooded with newbies that have NO idea it even exists.

I hate to sound nasty when she's making "efforts" (lame they may be) to rectify the situation, but I don't think she's doing enough and NASTY seems to be the ONLY thing that catches her attention.

So much more needs to be done but I'm waaaaay too tired to get into the specifics right now. I haven't been to bed yet and it's 9:00 a.m. I'll post more later as long as I didn't embarass myself too horribly with this one lol.
 
AddictedToBoas said:
I haven't heard a single word from her about spreading this warning to people. You know why? Because in a year she's going to start up again when this thread is nice and buried and rtb.net and rtb.com are flooded with newbies that have NO idea it even exists.
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I wonder how many people would demand compensation in the form of refunds, vet costs, and collection costs (if the snakes indeed carried IBD)?

To her I rather think that the monetary cost alone is a good enough reason for her to choose not to warn all her previous buyers. (aside from having to admit fault and ravaging of her already destroyed reputation) :ack2:

That's my opinion on it, however sad the idea is...

Perhaps people should start posting warnings through her various venues she used to sell through (the ones that will allow it at least) with links to this thread. For example, her local craigslist pet section.

I'd also like to know how Phoenix died?
 
bad-one said:
I wonder how many people would demand compensation in the form of refunds, vet costs, and collection costs (if the snakes indeed carried IBD)?

To her I rather think that the monetary cost alone is a good enough reason for her to choose not to warn all her previous buyers. (aside from having to admit fault and ravaging of her already destroyed reputation) :ack2:

That's my opinion on it, however sad the idea is...

Perhaps people should start posting warnings through her various venues she used to sell through (the ones that will allow it at least) with links to this thread. For example, her local craigslist pet section.

I'd also like to know how Phoenix died?
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I understand that she wants to avoid the monetary issue, but honestly, I don't think that's the only reason. Not after reading through this entire thread and following what she has been saying. Not to mention, that one way or another people will find out. It'll be less nasty if she does it herself. Word will pass at shows (because rtb.com members go to the Austin, TX show each year and I'm sure people on here do), people will see it here and tell their friends to save them from what Elizabeth is going through... They will find out. Maybe not as quickly, but they will.

If she hurries half the people she has sold too may not have pulled her animals out of quarantine, and if she HAS IBD, those collections could be saved. This is her fault, her monster baby, she needs to deal with the consequences.

I'd like to know how phoenix died as well. I'd also like to know, if the snake Ruby was in such deplorable condition as she has turned around and said, why did she allow Yvonne's animal to breed her? I hardly think if she was in bad shape Yvonne would have allowed her snake in with her if she knew of Ruby's condition.
 
AddictedToBoas said:
They will find out. Maybe not as quickly, but they will.

If she hurries half the people she has sold too may not have pulled her animals out of quarantine, and if she HAS IBD, those collections could be saved. This is her fault, her monster baby, she needs to deal with the consequences.
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I'd just prefer people find out sooner than later so they can take the proper precautions now. Plus, not everyone's quarantine procedures are great or even existent...

I agree it's 100% her fault and she needs to deal with it the right way :thumbsup:
 
AddictedToBoas said:
I'd like to know how phoenix died as well.
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Finding that he'd even died was sheer luck..I haven't turned up anything on his CoD.

AddictedToBoas said:
I'd also like to know, if the snake Ruby was in such deplorable condition as she has turned around and said, why did she allow Yvonne's animal to breed her? I hardly think if she was in bad shape Yvonne would have allowed her snake in with her if she knew of Ruby's condition.
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The girl clearly has issues with honesty.

Her snakes are "healthy" when it suits her to say they are healthy (For example, sale ads/breeding projects/when this was all brought up).

However, if it suits her to appear a "savior" & "responsible, caring keeper", then the snake's condition is suddenly atrocious, and it's ALWAYS the original owner's fault, and she's the heroine for "rescuing" the snake. :rolleyes:

As for Ruby:
The snake was handled frequently while gravid, if it was subclinical for IBD, IBD still could have played a major factor in weakening the immune system.

Phoenix, I would wager, died of a sudden onset of RI.
 
I'm still waiting for proof of necropsies. Not that they'll help at this point since one already died of IBD, but I want to see if she has all the necropsies on the dead animals like she claims to. All of them. Not just the obvious ones.
 
I am sure she does not. She has been caught in too many lies and twisted tales to be able to truely believe her anymore. I know she said something about refunds and she claimed before to have all this extra money so it should be very easy to pay the people back that deserve refunds. Seems fair.
 
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hboyles66 said:
I am glad to see Ashley is at least starting to rebuild by giving RachelSS her refund. That is a start.
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She is not starting to "rebuild.' Not even close. :NoNo: She's merely taking care of the one we know about who also has the ability to FORCE a refund if they so desired.

I'll use the word "rebuild" when she starts contacting her customers (or list them here so that we can) and warning them of possible illnesses and investigating if there have been any unexplained deaths in those collections to which she sold animals.
 
yes you have heard from her?

Her animals have been mixed in with that lot as well so her projects need to be on hold as well, if she has any...
 
I'll post on here what I posted on rtb.com

Yvonne is aware of the situation, her pairings have been separated and the one gravid female she has she is going to keep all the babies until further notice. She has erased all sales from her site and will be getting her animals tested. She is very upset about all of this and has ceased posting pretty much everywhere.

I don't want to say anything more as it is not my responsibility nor really my business to state what she's doing. I just don't want people to start jumping on her like Ashley, she's not arguing, not denying, she is taking care of what needs to be taken care of.
 
Thanks Sarah for the update and I'm glad she is being responsible about this,
This could happen to anyone it's how you handle yourself that counts.
 
AddictedToBoas said:
I'll post on here what I posted on rtb.com

Yvonne is aware of the situation, her pairings have been separated and the one gravid female she has she is going to keep all the babies until further notice. She has erased all sales from her site and will be getting her animals tested. She is very upset about all of this and has ceased posting pretty much everywhere.

I don't want to say anything more as it is not my responsibility nor really my business to state what she's doing. I just don't want people to start jumping on her like Ashley, she's not arguing, not denying, she is taking care of what needs to be taken care of.
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I'm very sorry that she got caught up in all this. It's about the worst case of "wrong place, wrong time" I can think of. And while I'm sure it's got to be heart breaking for her, I'm very glad to hear that she is being responsible and proactive about it.

That fact deserves some respect, and I don't think anyone would beat up on her for being caught up in this situation.
 
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