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I am bringing this over from another thread. I hope it is allowed to stay here, because I feel it is very important to the entire herp community.

In this post- http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1191962&postcount=1092

Jen Harrison makes a statement that
There are people known to have viruses/diseases in their collections that are still selling at shows in Texas, and the Texas herp community does nothing but sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist, so that it doesn't create a bias against them for being at the same show with potentially infected snakes, and thus hurt their businesses.
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I replied with this post-
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214444&page=28

and stated
Oh give me a break, Jen! Name one person that is known to have a disease in their collection and is selling at a Texas herp show. If you are referring to Damian Wyatt, like I have already told you, I vend at just about all of the Texas shows, and have for over 10 years now. I have not seen Wyatt at a show in at least 6 years, so let's see if you have the balls to name names of these supposed people. I've been a part of the Texas herp community for a long, long time; we are a tight community, and I don't take kindly to you making broad generalizations about us and making vague accusations!
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Jen offered to email me the names, but I thought it might be better to start a new thread so that everything stays out in the open.
 
That is quite the statement from Jen and I hope she will be forthcoming with her accusations.

I belong to all of the Texas Herp forums (as far as I know) and all but one of them has publicly acknowledged the issues with Ashley. The one that has not made a public statement to inform their members is not allowing her to run any more ads.

Being a show promoter, I am very diligent about running a clean show and doing all I can to ensure the safety of our animals. I have never heard any complaints from any other Texas Shows concerning vendors wilt health issues in their collection. I've been in the Texas Herp community since 1985.

Anyone that knows me will tell you that I would not take an issue like this and "sweep it under the rug".

Thanks Kelli for starting this thread.
 
Tim, I replied to your PM. Feel free to post my response if you like, as it will at least provide more details on why I made the statement that I did. As for the e-mails to back up what I explained in that PM, I would have to sort through about 23-25 pages of e-mails in my Virus folder, so that is something I will have to do at a later time. The Packers' NFC Championship game starts in a little over an hour and I still have to start making lunch for us.
 
Hey Kelli,thanks for bringing this to my/everyones attention.I've lived in Texas on and off since I was a teen and now live here permanently.Funny thing is out of all the collections I've seen in my life the nicest are in Texas(especially the Hot collections).In fact I cant recall ever seeing a sick animal in someones house or the shows.And on top of that I became a permanent resident of Texas specifically for the Texas reptile community and laws.
 
According to Jen, she is too busy to back up these claims she posted about one of the most active herp communities in the country. The pm she sent Tim (it was ok for him to forward it to me since she gave him permission to post it in this thread) is full of second and third party information and claims. It's not fit to post here because of that. I can tell you that this statement she made
There are people known to have viruses/diseases in their collections that are still selling at shows in Texas, and the Texas herp community does nothing but sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist, so that it doesn't create a bias against them for being at the same show with potentially infected snakes, and thus hurt their businesses.
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is not true. I am friends with all of the Texas show promoters (with the exception of the Repticon promoters) and none of them would knowingly allow a vendor to vend if there were legitimate complaints ie. true about disease in that vendor's collection.
 
I would definitely not appreciate a comment like that generalizing all Arizona breeder's/keeper's.. I don't believe the action's of one clown to condemn an entire state; I gotta lotta good bud's in the Bighorn State and they keep some tip top collection's.. Thank you very little!!
 
No kidding huh Tom! That stinks that anyone would even toss around acusations like that without SOME kind of proof. Nice post Kelli!
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
Hasn't it been posted somewhere that Wyatt is still attending the Texas show circuit? Or does this individual not count?
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Yes, here we go...

bossroy said:
Well I just came across this and am pretty glad I did. I brought 3 snakes from him at a expo the year defore last and as soon as they shed the infection showed up(he had about 30 females he was selling). I lost them and two more. I had taken them to the vet and spent lots of money but with no luck. But lucky for me I had separated them when the signs showed up. He was at an expo about 4 months ago and his collection had dropped, don't know if he sold or they had died. I just hope that this doesn't spread it is very bad and when I see him again I can now confront him. Thanks for the info!
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TripleMoonsExotic said:
Hasn't it been posted somewhere that Wyatt is still attending the Texas show circuit? Or does this individual not count?
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Kelli's first post
Oh give me a break, Jen! Name one person that is known to have a disease in their collection and is selling at a Texas herp show. If you are referring to Damian Wyatt, like I have already told you, I vend at just about all of the Texas shows, and have for over 10 years now. I have not seen Wyatt at a show in at least 6 years, so let's see if you have the balls to name names of these supposed people. I've been a part of the Texas herp community for a long, long time; we are a tight community, and I don't take kindly to you making broad generalizations about us and making vague accusations
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Thanks! Not sure how I missed that the first time.

According to that thread, he was last seen selling at an an Expo in December of 2008. How does that equate to 4 months ago?
 
Where was this show? Was it even in Texas? Are the show promoters aware of this and who he is?

I run the Austin Show and he has never been a vendor here.
 
Tim Cole said:
Thanks! Not sure how I missed that the first time.

According to that thread, he was last seen selling at an an Expo in December of 2008. How does that equate to 4 months ago?
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Here is the post quoted, I am highlighting the relevant part:

Well I just came across this and am pretty glad I did. I brought 3 snakes from him at a expo the year defore last and as soon as they shed the infection showed up(he had about 30 females he was selling). I lost them and two more. I had taken them to the vet and spent lots of money but with no luck. But lucky for me I had separated them when the signs showed up. He was at an expo about 4 months ago and his collection had dropped, don't know if he sold or they had died. I just hope that this doesn't spread it is very bad and when I see him again I can now confront him. Thanks for the info!
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The post was written 15JAN2011, so that puts the time of purchase for the poster at ~2009, and then he saw Wyatt again 4 months ago, at an expo.

That post makes it sound as though Wyatt is still active, at least as of 4 months ago, but he doesn't say what expo or where, by his location of Dallas TX I suppose one could assume Texas, however...YMMV
 
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