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Florida Passes Ban On large Snakes

Is there any updates on their findings for this year? My girlfriend and I caught one ourselves in the everglades...but as far as we know we're the only ones to even see one....

Hoping for some answers! Thanks! -bump-
 
demonmyst said:
Is there any updates on their findings for this year? My girlfriend and I caught one ourselves in the everglades...but as far as we know we're the only ones to even see one....

Hoping for some answers! Thanks! -bump-
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shoot I wish I could go into the swamp and find snakes lol
I find more black rats, and water ssnakes in yards than I do went i go herping for fun.
 
U cant remove the snakes from the swamp with out a collections permit. Also to collect ROCs in Florida u must have a Conditional species permit. Ive been talking to the lady about collecting redeared sliders and rehoming out of state and she said I would need to do quite a bit of paper work and setting up enclosures to specs. I'll look for her number when I have more time.
 
"Its sort of ridiculous all the paper work you have to go through, to get rid of the problem..."

Thats because its not a problem. It's a taxpayer-funded jobs program.
 
BobOblak said:
"Its sort of ridiculous all the paper work you have to go through, to get rid of the problem..."

Thats because its not a problem. It's a taxpayer-funded jobs program.
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and to think the gov. was supposed to be cutting back spending ....



a friend of mine breeds burms and retics and has had fwc come to his house 3-4 times in the past 2 weeks threatening him with crazy fines . he even has his roc permit and some other papers . but this last time they threatened to take the snakes away is that even legal ?

btw all his snakes have the microchip needed for him to have them also
 
ROC only allows you to keep your current collection, if you want to breed you must havr a conditional species permit as well as a class 3 permit. Also, if his faculty is not maintained to standards or his caging isn't up to spec they csn confiscate as well.
 
thats the thing he has probly one of the cleanest reptiole rooms everydays he spends like 4-5 hrs cleaning and making sure everything is right and proper
and he also spends time with animals he has by far one of the most tame retics i have ever seen . and from what i have seen and he has told me has all his permits he needs its just this guy is a straight dick who comes from fwc his name is jeff and at one point he called my friend a jackass for wanting to keep snakes like that and said if he had his way would just kill them all in my honest opinion i think that is really wrong to say :shrug01:

we called up the office in our area and they said if we have no proof there is nothing they can do :eek:
 
Hybridbird said:
ROC only allows you to keep your current collection, if you want to breed you must havr a conditional species permit as well as a class 3 permit. Also, if his faculty is not maintained to standards or his caging isn't up to spec they csn confiscate as well.
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The class three permit is strictly for selling reptiles in Florida and has nuthin to do with breeding. Only breeders that have an incorporated business before the July deadline to get an ROC permit (July of 08 or 09, I cant remember) and approved by Jenny Tinnley, can breed and sell ROCs to an out of state buyer. If ur just a hobbyist without an incorporated business and a ROC, u cant breed ur ROCs. So actually the FWC officer is right and can take his ROCS if he see them reproducing, or sees offspring.
 
You are wrong on so many counts, that I won't even attempt to address them all here. Lets be clear on one thing though, I posses a current conditional species permit an ROC permit and Class 3 permit so I can tell you this much. I would not want to be one caught selling (in FL or out) without all 3.
 
Also, for the record, ROC permits went into effect 1 July 08 and Conditional Species permits (which is what ROCs are classified as now) went into effect 1 July 2010. Class 3 permits are required to sell ANY wildlife, if YOU live in Florida and you are selling any wildlife even if you sell every single one out of state, you are required to have a Class 3 permit for the specific species you are selling, so in effect, the Class 3 does have something to do with breeding.Unless of course you are going to breed and keep every offspring you are going to produce, or give them all away for free...but I'm sure there's a rule against that as well somewhere, if you look hard enough.
 
There isnt a rule against breeding and giving them away what so ever and its what ive done with 99% of what ive produced, I sold one normal ball for 20 bucks. I dont have the class three, but spoke with the lady that handles all the nonnative collections permits and such for quite a while on the phone and for quite a while on all these subjects. Im fairly sure that NO ONE that wasnt an established breeder of ROCS, and incorporated as such before they became conditional species, would be allowed to breed them.

Also on another note this would actually be the perfect place to address where I am wrong. Those who say "your wrong but I wont bother addressing it" make no sense. What the point of halfassing it and just saying im wrong?

You cannot collect any nonnative species without first having a permit to collect, and then a permit (ROC/Conditional Species) to keep. I was planning on collecting Wild RES and hybrids and adopting them out of state and this is what I was told. By the lady who decides whether its worth wasting the time to send u paper work in the first place. And the same goes for any other nonnative evasive species collecting.

If someone had 2 pet burms since 06, got their ROCs in 08, and then decided to breed next year (2012) will be subject to fines and possible loss of animals. Thats how it is. You cant breed ROCS/Conditional species in Florida unless special requirements were met by the stated time a few years ago.
 
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