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Inquiry Username Victor121 – Questionable Guy

victor121 said:
questioning how i take care of my animals??? call the guys from ARS, and ask how many racks i have purchased from them, nothing but the best quality for my snakes- and as many of the big breeders buy and flip all the time no one says anything to them, if i buy a collection becuase i want a few of the snakes for my collection and decide to sell the rest is my buisness. And abolutely people should get paid for their hard work, but why should people that cant afford to over pay for a snake not be able to have one?- anyways im not going back and forth- i had made a mistake and am fixing it...i understand the purpose of this boi, but when it got personal, reguarding my family and my stature i lost respect for it.....
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So you did all of this for those of us that cannot afford the higher-priced morphs? :icon_bs: You made a profit ("free animals" would also constitute a profit)!

You're comparing yourself to the big name breeders?? They earned their reputation with hard work, discipline and doing the right thing. Ok...I guess you earned yourself a rep, too. The exact same thing...only different. :shootfoot

And while I agree that your son and your stature should have never been part of this discussion, you should have never used him (his condition) to try and gain sympathy for your obvious wrong-doings, nor should any type of threat of violence ever been e-mailed to YOUR customer!!! What were you thinking?? But this mistake that you keep bringing up was a blatant lie! You are only addressing this because you got caught and it was made public!
 
victor121 said:
ok, i wasnt comparing myself to anyojne- but see it as you want...like i said im done here and the problems are being taken care of..
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Ya ain't done here; post your excuse; apologize in your next post wholeheartedly and make right: Today... Then; quit trying to do favors; it's how diseases get spread partner...
 
victor121 said:
Absolutely I'm just trying to do nothing but make a good name for myself here... Thankyou
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Just wanted to remind you of this post you made about a month or so ago. At the moment, the thread with your name on it, which describes you as a "questionable guy", has over 6,800 views. That is not the way to make a good name for yourself.
 
Yea... That's a rough one.. I said it before, I am straightenin out the one mistake I made and that's that... Tom- I don't take kindly to being spoken to like that so I am going to have to deny your request.... And again- I'm more into this for the hobby so as long as I make the person happy I have made a mistake with then I'll sleep at night..
 
victor121 said:
questioning how i take care of my animals??? call the guys from ARS, and ask how many racks i have purchased from them, nothing but the best quality for my snakes- and as many of the big breeders buy and flip all the time no one says anything to them, if i buy a collection becuase i want a few of the snakes for my collection and decide to sell the rest is my buisness. And abolutely people should get paid for their hard work, but why should people that cant afford to over pay for a snake not be able to have one?- anyways im not going back and forth- i had made a mistake and am fixing it...i understand the purpose of this boi, but when it got personal, reguarding my family and my stature i lost respect for it.....
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Dont No body want to call the guy from ARS Dont really no-body care what you have and what you dont as in a few its going to be completely meaningless to us and you... ( prolly sold them some fake hets in a trade) Yea you did make a mistake and more than likely you made the mistake willingly and wouldn'y of had done NOTHING to make it right if you didn't get caught...
Lost respect for it... Im not sure but last time I was studying martial arts Respect and honor were two of the things we were taught... If you really belive what you preach and practive where's the honor or respect in selling "fake" hets ad yes I said FAKE... and your family nor your physical stature has nothing to do with this thread I do however agree with that But No one wants to hear about respect from a guy who spose to follow a higher level that tried to get over on people by selling fake hets and clearly would NEVER OF EVEN ATTEMPTED TO make it right if he didn't get caught red handed. Shoulda stuck with walking around with some draino maybe you could scam people a little easier when you acually know what your doing the :censored: up thing is I was actually looking to get some of the "hets" you had SMFH Im glad I aint

But on a lighter note if you are truly trying to make things right maybe some of that respect you talk about can be replaced but its going to take time and work to replace that respect if it even works I mean seriously selling fake hets.....
 
victor121 said:
Yea... That's a rough one.. I said it before, I am straightenin out the one mistake I made and that's that... Tom- I don't take kindly to being spoken to like that so I am going to have to deny your request.... And again- I'm more into this for the hobby so as long as I make the person happy I have made a mistake with then I'll sleep at night..
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That was me being nice... You'd need new panties if I were dumb enuff to let you do something like this to me or mine.. You wouldn't wanna see me.. You tried pullin your nonsense with me; remember something chief; some see all.. You're Domminick Dunne round here.. Start packin'... Make right first..
 
Victor,

You keep mentioning that this is "just a hobby" for you. What do you plan to do with all those males and females? Not breed them? Keep all of the clutches? I imagine you are going to sell them, many of which are going to .... produce hets.

Regardless if this not your "way of life," you are taking money for a falsely represented item and in the future, you are going to need more people to buy from you. These people are allowed the privelage to search and find out about your practices, the same as you have reaped all the benefits of this site to sell your snakes and con others.

*** The OP and Kevin have asked you numerous times for paperwork in at least two threads now. Each time you have ignored them.

*** You have yet to give a valid excuse why you sold a normal as a het albino.

*** You have, as far as I am concerned, threatened a fellow herper and customer of yours.


And again- I'm more into this for the hobby so as long as I make the person happy I have made a mistake with then I'll sleep at night..
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It's obvious that you did not choose to make this right until you were caught lying. You may be able to sleep at night, but what about all the other people you have sold hets to??
 
Lol, I'm not going to have a cyber argument with you... I am making right. Has nothing to do with you... And you keep saying hets, it was one snake were I made the error.. Anyways the problem is being handled and that's all there is to it, and as for people like you I will continue to post whatever visual morphs i chose to and they will continue to sell.. Sorry
 
Focal X said:
Victor,

You keep mentioning that this is "just a hobby" for you. What do you plan to do with all those males and females? Not breed them? Keep all of the clutches? I imagine you are going to sell them, many of which are going to .... produce hets.

Regardless if this not your "way of life," you are taking money for a falsely represented item and in the future, you are going to need more people to buy from you. These people are allowed the privelage to search and find out about your practices, the same as you have reaped all the benefits of this site to sell your snakes and con others.

*** The OP and Kevin have asked you numerous times for paperwork in at least two threads now. Each time you have ignored them.

*** You have yet to give a valid excuse why you sold a normal as a het albino.

*** You have, as far as I am concerned, threatened a fellow herper and customer of yours.




It's obvious that you did not choose to make this right until you were caught lying. You may be able to sleep at night, but what about all the other people you have sold hets to??
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Well Spoken Nick


Honestly my opinion is its not a hobby to him... Hear me out He got into reptiles bought out people collections and placed animals for sale.... SImple is simple does he's simpling selling them to double his money and leave the hobby simply another person trying to take advantage of a HOBBY some of us are truly dedicated to to him it IMHO is a way to double what money he placed into it when he bought out the collections he bought out.
 
victor121 said:
I'm more into this for the hobby so as long as I make the person happy I have made a mistake with then I'll sleep at night..
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Which mistake are you referring to?? The blatant lie that the normals you sold as "het albinos"? The lie that you couldn't find the paperwork, but would send it soon? For ignoring attempts from multiple customers to get said (non-existent) paperwork? For threatening a customer because you "felt like taking out your frustrations on someone phsyically"??? For telling a customer that you will only refund PART of his money?

WHICH problem(S) are you planning to fix?? Unless you can go back in time and redo all of this withOUT lying, I'm not sure how it's possible. At this point, you should probably take some good advice that's been given to you, apologize for your shady business practices, and quit expecting anyone to believe anything else that you say.
 
Your right .. I probably will but like I said it's not my way of life so it will not effect me.. And even if I did post the situation I'm sure it would get tore up and misconstrued so no point...I have straightened this out with the people involved which I'm sure they'll post on here soon. But I'm not going back and forth on here anylonger...
 
victor121 said:
Lol, I'm not going to have a cyber argument with you... I am making right. Has nothing to do with you... And you keep saying hets, it was one snake were I made the error.. Anyways the problem is being handled and that's all there is to it, and as for people like you I will continue to post whatever visual morphs i chose to and they will continue to sell.. Sorry
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I'm sure you will since A) Visuals are kind of hard to lie about, B) They don't need paperwork. As of right now, the OP and Kevin have not posted saying things have been fixed. Remember how you have been blowing them off about the paperwork (two people, so that's more than one mistake) and hoping the problem will go away?? How do we know this isn't going to end the same??
 
victor121 said:
And as for shipping I am now certified wit fedex but thank you
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Well thats a bonus Im glad that you actually got that done I know I posted in a thread and evened Pm'd you on that one.... Even defended you in that thread but now with this situation have to double think....
As will many people...
But making this right is a step in the right direction... But a long way from clearing your name of the wrong you've done and gaining trust of some I know you dont care what some think... But yet many do and word of mouth is and always has been the best business marketing tool and word of mouth says Victor sells fake hets...
 
Victor, be as arrogant and unprofessional as you like. As you've admitted, I'm not directly involved. This won't effect my business in any way (neither hurt nor help), BUT in case you didn't realize this, let me explain one little thing. If/when people Google you, to see what kind of plumber you are, this will also pop-up.

Now, I won't speak for anyone else, but when I look into letting a contractor in my home, I take time to find out something about them. If a similar thread popped-up in my search results, you'd be passed up for someone else to do that same work. Good luck to ya! ;)
 
I just dont understand how someone can accidentally sell a normal as a het. I mean even the big breeders that produce thousands of animals a year know if there selling a het or not. I just dont see how that could of been an "honest" mistake.
 
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