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Bad Guy west coast roaches Daniel Penunuri

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on 3-19-11 i was contacted by this seller, they offered me roaches. after several pms and phone conversations i agreed to send him 150$ for 500 nymphs and some adults. he seemed concerned about sending me the proper amount of females, and was asking how many males i had in my colony already. he also mentioned to me that you can tell the difference between a male and a female roach as early as sub-adult hood, the last 3-4 molts before adult hood.

not thinking much about that i went ahead and placed my order on march 23rd. the order went out that monday at 10pm it was scanned in at the post office in LA. it didnt go out untill tuesday because he missed the cut off for monday.

i received one box on thursday of 256 roaches. i counted every single one and i had 12 adult male and 3 adult female and the rest were nymphs.

i tried all day to contact the seller by phone but i could only contact him by text. very slow to respond and no real explanation other then she shipped my 2nd box to the wrong person?


after several days of calling, threatening and texting i finally got ahold of him saturday night. he was telling me his father just had a stroke and that he was in the hospital but he would ship out first thing sunday.

late on sunday i received a text with the tracking number, then a picture message of the receipt.

i received the rest of my roaches on wednesday, hopping to see many females in this box, there were NONE. no females.

all of these roaches were in their last molt of being a nymph. and all of them were male. there were about 300-350 roaches in this box. 100 overcount as promised over the phone for the mistake and delay.


heres the issues.....

over the phone he said he was going to send me enough females to "Take care of me" and help me establish my colony.

on his web site it states
http://westcoastroaches.com/article.php?article=47
Large Dubia Roaches
Sizing:1 1/4 to 1 3/4" inches
Here is the perfect size Dubia roaches to get a colony up and going from the start. They are ready to molt to adult size and ready to breed. They are also great for larger reptiles. Our iguana's love the large Dubia roaches as a main staple in their diet.
this is a direct quote from the website. if he changes it then he changes it but this is exactly as i see it. (picture attached bellow)
http://westcoastroaches.com/?article=9

if he lists it as a pefect size dubia roach to get a colony up and going from the start, then why would he send ALL males , how can you start a colony with only males?

over the phone he said he'd send me females but i got 3, he said he'd take care of me and help me get my colony started but all he did was send me male nympsh that will be adult males with in a week or 2....

i dont feed out adult males, their wings are not very easy to digest, and their adult bodies are not very fat , adult males are very slim and trim compared to nymphs.

its one thing if i just had an over count of males. but thats not the case. he specifically removed all the females from my order and kept them for himself. he only gave me males , he spent the time to pick threw 500 nymph roaches... he lied to me and he KNOWS it , he screwed me over, he put me threw alot of stress the 4 days i could not get an answer from him and i kept having to threaten i would make a paypal dispute against him. but i didnt, i waited....

so last night i made a paypal claim asking for a partial refund so that i may recover my losses and purchase females and finally get a colony established and back up and running for the summer.
 

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You can send pay pal to [email protected] I will ship them on Monday so they don't get caught in weekend mail. I will send them priority with carrots inside so they don't die. Thanks and I will throw some extra in just in case. Thanks Gerri
also if you recieve all dead bugs, you need to take a pic of them and send it to me in the box they come in ok? Thanks Gerri
Not that you are a scammer but I have had someone try this before and could not produce a pic. If I ship a large order that is over 100.00 I make the person video tape opening the box I ship them. Gerri
 
thanks gerridrews, im really not picky AT ALL. i've never had an issue on fauna before.

thank you for contacting me about females. this way i can truely get my colony started in time for breeding.
 
Why did you spend soo much when their are probably 10 other roach vendors that are half the cost?

My OCD thanks you for posting the pictures between male and female........no sleep for me this weekend. :rofl:
 
Why did you spend soo much when their are probably 10 other roach vendors that are half the cost?

My OCD thanks you for posting the pictures between male and female........no sleep for me this weekend. :rofl:

what other vendors will sell 500+ Large dubia roaches for 75$? you say there are 10 vendors that will sell me 500 at half the cost, and that would be 75$


what vendor? please let me know because 500 large nymphs for 75$ is a killer price... not mixed nymphs. i wanted large only.

i purchased them from west coast roaches because i contacted several sellers on fauna and from online stores, all of them were not selling large nymphs. westcoast saw i was looking for a colony so he contacted me threw pm.
 
I am not gonna advertise for my competition........maybe a few of them, like myself, did not have that many "large" in stock and I was not shipping in january because of the weather....although that reason would not have applied to you we live soo close.
 
I am not gonna advertise for my competition........maybe a few of them, like myself, did not have that many "large" in stock and I was not shipping in january because of the weather....although that reason would not have applied to you we live soo close.

well yeah i wouldnt ask you to advertise other vendors. im just saying. all sites that list roaches. dont come close to 500 LARGE for only 75$

i dont want mixed nymphs. only large. thats my point. so your saying there are people that would sell me 500 large nymphs for only 75$??

im not trying to cause debate or cause hassle or drama. im just shocked that people out there are selling 500 large nymphs for only 75$

large only, not mixed nymphs.

i purchased 1500 tiny nymphs from a lady for 80$ when she was just starting out. that was kind of cool. but to have 500 large nymphs in their last molt state for only 75$


really?! WHERE!!! i have NOT seen this advertised. has any one else?
 
Hello all,

I see this thread has long passed it's time, but I've experienced a horrible encounter with West Coast Roaches myself. IT continued after Ebay gave me a refund when the owner started threatening to "warn others" that I was looking for a roach supplier. I wanted to post here, because obviously this person is repeating his mistakes in business over and over again, and I thought maybe you all would want to add input to this post:
West Coast Roaches Customer Service Disaster

I hope we can all come together to stop this guy from continuing to take advantage of customers.
 
I was shocked too! I just can't get over the nerve of a business owner to be treating any customer like this. Even if I was in the wrong, there is never a time when a business owner should lash out at a customer. It's bad PR...I'm hoping a few people from this thread will share their stories on the blog post.

Thanks for the response. It's nice to hear someone shares the "shocking" affect his interactions had on me.
 
I ended up having to report him to the FTC as well. I ended up on his mailing list...which doesn't even have an option to unsubscribe, and he started spamming emails to me left and right. He didn't even use a BCC, he just publicly listed hundreds of email addresses in the 'to' field. I asked him to stop more than once before I finally ended up reporting him to the FTC.
 
I happened across this thread.

I hand built and own the website westcoastroaches.com

I do not know a Daniel Penunuri, never heard of him. I would be curious to find out what PayPal the money was sent to. I have been through my records and not been able to find a transaction that matches the description given here, nor match the dates at all.

I do believe someone was impersonating as westcoastroaches or something along those lines.

If you could please message me, I would like to dig to the bottom of this. WestCoastROches has not been a member of fauna very long and this is way before I was a member selling products on this site.
 
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