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Bad Guy a.fisher or Amanda Deckard Reptile Flipper

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I never thought I be putting up a bad guy thread but I think people need to be warned. I was going back and forth about if this is a bad guy post or not. But there's a lot of things that Amanda is doing that I've seen to warrant a bad guy post.

Her name is Amanda Deckard or Amanda Fisher as she goes by both names. Her email on here is [email protected]. Her phone number is 417-522-5395. She lives in a house off Warren st. in Springfield Mo. Her ID name is a.fisher here on Fauna. She got for free two boas from a good friend of mine (who was her friend until she saw what she was doing) less than month ago is flipping them now on craigslist. Animal Control was called to her place for this also. She doesn't practice good husbandry skills for her reptiles. Most have mites or URI. What she buys goes strait to her reptile room with the others with mites and URI. She buys for cheap, trades or gets a reptiles off here on a spur of the moment situations. Then realizes this is not what she wants or gets bored of them and flips them on here or on craigslist. They live in filthy filthy conditions. This is not how you want your reptiles ending up or going to or buying off of. I was with my friend at Amanda's house the day my friend took these pics with her cell phone and thought I'd share them of how she takes care of her reptiles. My friend offered to help her out and have this boa put to sleep but she refused saying "she knew what she was doing". That is her response to everything if you try to help her. Or My friend has been doing this X amount of years with out problems. Which just causes endless suffering for the reptile because she don't know anything of how to take care of reptiles. This boa in the pictures had babies. It's a wonder she didn't die giving birth. Only 3 babies survived the rest was dead. What a waste. Is this is how your reptiles will end up if you let them go to her? Is that what you want for them? A life of suffering? The pics speak volumes Amanda. How do you sleep at night doing this? She will end up killing your reptile or reptiles or they will end up back on here in a day, week or month or two spreading who ever the others have in that reptiles room. I will be sending her a email shortly after I post this. Also I apologize for not answering fast after i post this has I have work and school. But I will be back on to answer all questions very soon.

Here's the pics:

http://s938.photobucket.com/albums/ad225/JessicaMartin1982/Amandas Reptiles Room/
 
ive seen worse set ups, but that one snake does look really bad. thats so sad :( how can someone get an animal, and not give it the care it needs? i take in rescues, and sadly..i just lost a lil red tail due to improper set ups. it really makes me mad that ppl dont care, or dont try. they get an animal because its "cool" and it gives the rest of us a bad name. i have a friend whos an animal controll officer, and is getting ready to go into a house, the owner is a reptile horder..its pretty sad what these poor animals endure and take before their lives are lost. hope she opens her eyes!!
 
These are some really strong accusations. Do you have any proof that these pics were taken at her house?
 
Those are the pics from her house. Amanda is bent over in one pics also shes the one hold the boa for the pics. Seriously what do I have to gain or lose from this thread? I just thought people should know what she's up to.
 
I She got for free two boas from a good friend of mine (who was her friend until she saw what she was doing) less than month ago is flipping them now on craigslist. Animal Control was called to her place for this also.

Why would Animal Control be called if she chose to sell some of her critters?

I think the issue is critter care and this can be complicated. After all, if you take in rescue critters some of them might be and look ill until they recover. A picture of a sick snake at her house might just mean that she took in a sick snake and not be a reflection on her.

On the other hand, if she is not quarantining her animals, or if she is mistreating them, that's not good. I'm interested in what she has to say.
 
Those are the pics from her house. Amanda is bent over in one pics also shes the one hold the boa for the pics. Seriously what do I have to gain or lose from this thread? I just thought people should know what she's up to.

There are endless possibilities as to why you could have started this thread, but I was only asking if you had any proof. I'm not implying that you are lying; however, if someone made such allegations against you, wouldn't you want others to ask for proof, rather than just taking the other person's word?
 
Do you have screen shots of the Craigslist Ads 'cause I can't find any in Springfield, MO. Her phone number doesn't yield any results either.
 
Seriously what do I have to gain or lose from this thread?

You said your friend gave her two snakes, and then she chose to sell them.
Perhaps your friend is upset with this turn of events.

I'm hoping to hear from Amanda here, speculation can't take the place of hearing from each side.
 
Why would she hold the snakes for you to take pictures of them? I'm not accusing you but I want to know why she would willingly let you take pictures of sick snakes that she owns. In my eyes it seems like maybe she got in a rescue that was in bad shape and let you take pictures of it. It may be a totally different situation but I just don't understand why she would let you take pictures of the snakes and position them if she was the one who put them into that condition. :shrug01:
 
I want to say something here that is important to me. Recently a thread was initiated saying (if I'm getting it right) that we should be careful of messengers so that all feel free to bring their concerns to this site.

Jessica, I want you to know that the multiple posts and questions by me are in the interest of knowledge, notification and fair play and are in no way (in my case anyway), any indication of what I feel the ultimate outcome might be. I think it is natural to have questions, things are not always as they seem; and I think once Amanda has her say, everyone will have a much better feel for the whole situation.
 
I want to say something here that is important to me. Recently a thread was initiated saying (if I'm getting it right) that we should be careful of messengers so that all feel free to bring their concerns to this site.

Jessica, I want you to know that the multiple posts and questions by me are in the interest of knowledge, notification and fair play and are in no way (in my case anyway), any indication of what I feel the ultimate outcome might be. I think it is natural to have questions, things are not always as they seem; and I think once Amanda has her say, everyone will have a much better feel for the whole situation.

:iagree:

Let's hold off on the "grilling" until we have heard both sides of the story. I too have some questions regarding the original post but any post I make right now will be with only half the information that I need.
 
Like Lucille said, I'm not accusing you of anything either I just find it very odd that she would be like here you go take a picture of my sick snake I want the world to know how I treat my animals so just wondering how you would go about getting these pictures and what the story is because there's a lot of holes in this story at this point.
 
I thought these threads were supposed to be about transactions... not crappy care of animals.... if it were crappy care of animals - we'd have a million BOI threads....
 
Personally, I'd want to know how animals are cared for by potential 'breeders'. I wouldn't spend money on an animal that I know the breeders are not caring for properly.
 
Kevin-there are situations when bad care should definately be on here. Would you not want to know if someone has IBD in their collection, or mites, URI, etc etc.
 
Kevin-there are situations when bad care should definately be on here. Would you not want to know if someone has IBD in their collection, or mites, URI, etc etc.

of course, but with proof - all i saw here was a few pictures of some small boring tanks and a crappy looking boa... no evidince that this person is/was selling snakes or anything else. This thread wasnt well thought out at all IMO
 
I only have a few min brake:

One word sums it up for Amanda's house. Flipper. This is what I saw from my point of view when we went I pulled up to her house its an old 1940-50 style house. Her boxer out in the front was emaciated. (That'sw why the animal control was called at first. They had a total of 4-5 dogs outside all very skinny no food no water. 1 dog inside. The outside is littered with different sizes of dirty tanks stacked next to the house. Then going in the house its dirty musty smell. Dirty dishes in the sink. stuff littered everywhere. Amanda takes you up stairs and her reptile room is on the right. She again has tanks stacked on top on each other. The water bowls are usually empty or dirty and the cages are never cleaned that I've seen. It always smells like crap and pee. Cold as heck and no heaters for any of the reptiles. Amanda has around 10-12 snakes boas, geckos balls. I even seen the sick boa and it's horrible. That's why I'll never go back to her place. Amanda had just gotten in a ball python the day before that she was proud of and it was already in her collection. No QT time nothing. The Guyana she has had mites that I saw and she has a Argentine that has a URI. I told her she needed to take that one to the vet. Her exact words " I know what I'm doing I can handle it" She also for every question threw up "well my friend has been doing this x amount of years with no problems". This is what I saw. And then my friend took pics.

There is no way shape or form or a reason why to make this up. I'm just warn people about her. I for one would like to know where my reptiles are coming from before I buy them. This is how IBD and other illnesses start going from collection to collection is from people like her that don't care. Believe me or not it's up to you but knowing her she won't stop. She'll be back on this BOI because thats how people like her are. they don't care and never change.

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