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Bad Guy BEWARE! Ken, the owner of Exotic Pets LLC is not a reputable dealer!

Snakemami - Thank you for your kind input, it appears to be not the norm on this forum.

I don't have anyone local to go to except my Vet. For a $40 office visit she will sex 1 snake or 20, it don't matter....but $40 is the minumum for a vsit.

Thanks for the tips on mite treatment. I've already started trating them and I'm sure everything will be fine and they will out of quarantine soon :)

Yes, communication has shutdown between me and Ken. He will not pay for return shipping so that is that. I've learned a vauable lesson at my expense.
 
TakinANapster said:
I hope I don't buy from you then....I hope you recognize me when I call because I'd really rather not do business with you anyway.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl:

You may not realize it, but you've just made quite a few breeder's DNBFOSTL. This is not a fun list to be on as it can limit one to the cheap, 2nd rate, ugly animals that no one else wants. :rofl:
 
I think it's all about approach.

If I bought snakes from Ken and they were babies, and wanted them sexed, I'd email him and say Hey Ken I never learned to sex snakes, no hurry but could you please help me out?

And he'd email back and say no problem Lucille, I'll keep my ears open and if I know someone who lives nearby you I'll ask them to go over and show you how, just give me a little time and I'd say thanks Ken.

And I have no doubt that in a few months or whener, I'd get my lesson.
 
Lucille said:
I think it's all about approach.

If I bought snakes from Ken and they were babies, and wanted them sexed, I'd email him and say Hey Ken I never learned to sex snakes, no hurry but could you please help me out?

And he'd email back and say no problem Lucille, I'll keep my ears open and if I know someone who lives nearby you I'll ask them to go over and show you how, just give me a little time and I'd say thanks Ken.

And I have no doubt that in a few months or whener, I'd get my lesson.
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Now you sound like you must be a personal friend of Ken, bacause THAT is NOT the Ken I spoke to and had email conversations with. That Ken had no intention of being helpful from the day he hit the sale button.
 
TakinANapster said:
Now you sound like you must be a personal friend of Ken, bacause THAT is NOT the Ken I spoke to and had email conversations with. That Ken had no intention of being helpful from the day he hit the sale button.
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I actually do not know Ken personally, but I do have confidence that his good reputation and my courtesy together could get the snakes sexed.

As I said, it is all in the approach.
 
Based on the E-mails YOU posted he did not seem rude at all. He even offered you multiple solutions. Nothing you have posted has anything to back it up with. I'm sure the mites will be cleared up by the time you have time to take pictures right? Youre expanding your business or collection but wanted to take your time to learn to sex animals and instead was FORCED to learn... how well do you think your breeding ventures are gonna go if you have to be forced to learn things like that?
 
Lucille said:
I actually do not know Ken personally, but I do have confidence that his good reputation and my courtesy together could get the snakes sexed.

As I said, it is all in the approach.
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There you have it, a friend sticking up for him...

He had no courtesy whatsoever. Maybe to you, his friend....but I was just one of his 10% hits on Kingsnake that I quoted in an earlier thread. The sale was already made and he offered me nothing!
 
I'm actually glad you posted this thread. I've been keeping snakes for ~10 years but never bothered to learn how to sex them because I had no need to know. I just got through ordering a set of probes because of reading this thread.

With money being so tight for you, and I understand because it is for me too, why was it so important for you to know right now which was which? I would have preferred them shipped in seperate containers too but was there any harm done because of them being shipped together?
 
sfconstrictors said:
Denny, you just keep digging that hole deeper and deeper don't you? Put away the shovel please. :shootfoot
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Good, I'll drop it...not worth my time anyway. Thought maybe I could "help" someone avoid a bad experience. It appears Ken has a few friends on here to help muddy up the post.

The fact is he shipped 2 snakes in the same container. No other breeder would say they would do that by default unless the customer requests it.
 
TakinANapster said:
The fact is he shipped 2 snakes in the same container. No other breeder would say they would do that by default unless the customer requests it.
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I've gotten snakes shipped to me that way before. Really not as big a deal as you're making it out to be. (And no, I don't know Ken nor have I ever purchased from him)

If you're not happy with the animals, take him up on the offer to send them back and be done with it. There's no sense in sticking around and ruining your own reputation to take shots at people who don't agree with you. Trust me, you'll regret it once you've had some time to cool off, and this'll be here forever for your own future customers to see.
 
The problem is how you are handling this. You are old enough to be a Vietnam Vet, yet you act like a teenager with some of your statements.

When you post on the BOI you need to handle it properly. All emails and documentation need to be in order before posting. Your comments and how you handle this thread gauge our reaction to you and will determine just how the thread moves along.

As you can see your once gray box is now red. Had you handled this better, the entire thread could have been different.

Have you notified Ken of this thread?
 
While i do understand being irritated by 2 snakes in the same container , The OP must understand the reason soo many are siding with the seller is he is rather hostile with people who simply want proof of your claims, if the snakes have mites u can take a simple pic of the affected animal and be done with it .

Btw all seriously lets stop with the " u mad my dnstl" it gets rather repetitive after the same people threaten it thread after thread.
 
Lucille said:
I actually do not know Ken personally, but I do have confidence that his good reputation and my courtesy together could get the snakes sexed.
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TakinANapster said:
There you have it, a friend sticking up for him..
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maybe you did not read Lucille's post right, it doesn't say they are friends anywhere. I figure you just misread it.

I also do not know you are ken. but i will say that there is no set way to ship reptiles, it doesnt matter what other people you talk to said they would do. it is up to the person that is shipping the animals on how they want to do it.. did you ask them to be shipped in separate containers and marked male and female? if not than did you expect ken to read your mind?

I do not see any need to try and make someone feel like they are not a good reptile keeper because they can't probe snakes yet. maybe he was rude about it but that doesn't make him a bad guy. the mites are a different story if he knew and sent the snakes anyway thats not something that acceptable.
 
Denny - I could not care less if you ever purchase from Ken again. In fact, my feeling is that if you are unhappy with your transaction, you probably shouldn't. I also realize that I poked a little fun at your statement in post 51; and had I had time to followup, you would have realized why. Now, seeing your increasing frustration, I see that humor is not going to help the situation.

However...I was hoping that you would have considered, and responded to, the questions in post #42. The were serious questions, and considering them might have helped you understand some of the responses you have received.
 
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