Jonathan,
This is your BOI thread, not anybody else's.
Once again:
You have been accused of misrepresenting animals, and selling false hets.
You can not simply come to a resolve behind the scenes with your accuser, and make this go away.
You should be open and honest, and speak for yourself, rather then hiding behind Amir.
Are there markers that confirm whether or not a Citrus Pastel, (or any other mutation) is carrying the Whiteout gene, or not ?
If so, have you been selling the Citrus Pastels that do not have those markers, and are therefor just Citrus Pastels, and not Whiteouts, as "Citrus Whiteout Pastels" or "Citrus Whiteouts ?"
If not, and it is still considered to be a random mutation that pops up in Citrus Pastel clutches, (although it is not attached to the Citrus Pastel gene since there are Whiteout combos that do not contain the Citrus Pastel gene,) then say so.
Here are the facts, as I understand them:
Amir has been working with his line of Citrus Pastels since 2002, but has not produced these Whiteouts in his own collection.
Amir had taken in five figures worth of animals from Joe Capone, (at Wholesale prices,) flipped them for a profit, and then did not have the cash to pay PHR for the animals that he received.
Joe C. was willing to work out a part trade / part cash resolution to the outstanding debt.
PHR received a male Pastel Calico, (that Amir flipped to him, and did not even produce himself,) and the rest of the debt was paid in cash.
Amir continued selling his line of Citrus Pastels, at Pastel prices from '02 until 2010, when Clark / PHR produced the first Whiteout mutations.
PHR advertised their new Whiteout animals as "Amirs line of Citrus Pastel Whiteout..." (after wrongly assuming that is where the mutation came from, and attempting to give Amir credit for it.)
Amir denied that PHR's Whiteouts had anything to do with him.
Mike Bell then produced animals that look identical to the animals that Clark produced, a few months later.
Amir purchased some of those animals from Mike Bell.
Amir then used the animals that he purchased from Mike Bell, in order to use as an example of what one may, or may not expect to produce when using his Citrus line of Pastel.
Jonathan, and Amir are now selling Amirs line of Citrus Pastels, as "Citrus Whiteouts," or "Citrus Whiteout Pastels," at much higher prices then before PHR and Mike Bell produced their Whiteout mutations.
Jonathan said the mutation was random, and that there was no way to tell if a Citrus Pastel (or any other mutation, since the Whiteout gene is not connected to the Citrus gene,) was carrying the Whiteout gene or not.
Amir said that there are genetic markers for the "Whiteout" mutation over on BP.net.
Jonathan no longer wants to discuss this on the forums, and is waiting for Amir to clear everything up for us on Reptile Radio.
Now these are the facts, as I understand them.
I politely ask Jonathan, Amir, Clark, Joe C., or Mike Bell, to please correct any of this information, or misinformation.
Although you may take issue with the way in which they have handled this issue, I don't see how Joe C., or Clark Tucker of PHR, have been anything other then transparent here.
If anything shady is going on with this project, I think it's happening right here in the Sunshine State.
