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Info TRUTHS ABOUT THE HIDDEN GENE WOMA THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT OF KEVIN MCCURELY(NERD)

I also want to post this email Allan sent to my personal email about the Super Cinnamon Hidden Gene Woma Granite as well. Enough of this ridiculousness. We tell the TRUTH and disclose everything. As I stated before this is exactly what happens when people don't disclose things.



As you can see i have chance this one after talking with Kevin..
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/cinnamon-granite-hidden-gene-woma-super-pastel/
and yours is the same Without the granite gene..

Best regards
Allan Riis

World of Ball Pythons
http://www.worldofballpythons.com
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/forums

[email protected]
0045 6114 1539


Den 26/05/2012 kl. 06.47 skrev JOSEPH CAPONE:

It is wrong to list the animals that are made with the granite hidden gene womas that don't throw granites or plain hidden gene womas by themselves and list the granite gene on top separately. They need to say for example for our sterling hidden gene woma.

Best Regards,
Joe Capone
 
Joe at PHR said:
I also want to post this email Allan sent to my personal email about the Super Cinnamon Hidden Gene Woma Granite as well. Enough of this ridiculousness. We tell the TRUTH and disclose everything. As I stated before this is exactly what happens when people don't disclose things.



As you can see i have chance this one after talking with Kevin..
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/cinnamon-granite-hidden-gene-woma-super-pastel/
and yours is the same Without the granite gene..

Best regards
Allan Riis

World of Ball Pythons
http://www.worldofballpythons.com
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/forums

[email protected]
0045 6114 1539


Den 26/05/2012 kl. 06.47 skrev JOSEPH CAPONE:

It is wrong to list the animals that are made with the granite hidden gene womas that don't throw granites or plain hidden gene womas by themselves and list the granite gene on top separately. They need to say for example for our sterling hidden gene woma.

Best Regards,
Joe Capone
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Am I the only one who cannot seem to understand what you try to post?:shrug01:
 
Joe at PHR said:
I also want to post this email Allan sent to my personal email about the Super Cinnamon Hidden Gene Woma Granite as well. Enough of this ridiculousness. We tell the TRUTH and disclose everything. As I stated before this is exactly what happens when people don't disclose things.



As you can see i have chance this one after talking with Kevin..
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/cinnamon-granite-hidden-gene-woma-super-pastel/
and yours is the same Without the granite gene..

Best regards
Allan Riis

World of Ball Pythons
http://www.worldofballpythons.com
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/forums

[email protected]
0045 6114 1539


Den 26/05/2012 kl. 06.47 skrev JOSEPH CAPONE:

It is wrong to list the animals that are made with the granite hidden gene womas that don't throw granites or plain hidden gene womas by themselves and list the granite gene on top separately. They need to say for example for our sterling hidden gene woma.

Best Regards,
Joe Capone
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I apologize for Allan's poor English he is from Copenhagen Denmark. Anybody that wants to act like they can't understand is an idiot period. I am not here to prove anything to you. I am here to tell the TRUTH.
 
Joe at PHR said:
I apologize for Allan's poor English he is from Copenhagen Denmark. Anybody that wants to act like they can't understand is an idiot period. I am not here to prove anything to you. I am here to tell the TRUTH.
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If you are here to tell the "so called truth" then all I ask is that you try to be as coherent as possible so we can follow whatever nonsense you are trying to post. Name calling will get you no where here. Lets get back to your story if thats okay with you.
 
Joe at PHR said:
I also want to post this email Allan sent to my personal email about the Super Cinnamon Hidden Gene Woma Granite as well. Enough of this ridiculousness. We tell the TRUTH and disclose everything. As I stated before this is exactly what happens when people don't disclose things.



As you can see i have chance this one after talking with Kevin..
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/cinnamon-granite-hidden-gene-woma-super-pastel/
and yours is the same Without the granite gene..

Best regards
Allan Riis

World of Ball Pythons
http://www.worldofballpythons.com
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/forums

[email protected]
0045 6114 1539


Den 26/05/2012 kl. 06.47 skrev JOSEPH CAPONE:

It is wrong to list the animals that are made with the granite hidden gene womas that don't throw granites or plain hidden gene womas by themselves and list the granite gene on top separately. They need to say for example for our sterling hidden gene woma.

Best Regards,
Joe Capone
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Sorry typo once again in the above message at the top...:) This is for all the critics. I meant to Cinnamon Super Pastel Hidden Gene Woma Granite in the above message...:)
 
So still waiting for the truth. All i see is you dodging the issue. You, Joe started this thread its up to you to bring the proof or do you not understand that. I for one will never buy from either of you and I will make certain that every one I know does not buy from you also.
 
The word "Washout" is defined in a couple of ways. 1. A total failure or disappointment. 2. One who fails to measure up to a standard. I think that is the most fitting name I can think of for Joe to give his supposed new morph that is not even anything that anyone who knows anything can even recognize. The Pastel Calico Washout just looks like a normal variation of a Pastel Calico to me. The rest look like nothing except the single gene they are supposed to be combined with. The Washout itself, please explain how that is not normal. If that is allowed to stand, then anyone can say that anything is a morph. It is important that we maintain the integrity of the morph market by calling these things out. Ironically, Joe helped many, including me, to see the differences in the HGW stuff of which I don't have any and at the same time pointed out his own deception.

I am shocked that anyone would give this guy any credibility for anything in the world. I cannot believe that there is a single person in the world that would give this guy a penny after what he attempted to do to the ball market a few years ago. They just must not know how destructive he has been. We have had a few years of relative peace and steady growth. Now Joe decides to speak and the destruction begins. Planting doubt in his wake. How long will it be before we see the “We sell ‘em for less” slogan dusted off?
 
MikeWilbanks said:
I cannot believe that there is a single person in the world that would give this guy a penny after what he attempted to do to the ball market a few years ago. ... How long will it be before we see the “We sell ‘em for less” slogan dusted off?
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Weren't you the sole supplier for BallBids.com who would hold penny auctions for ball pythons after you received full value? It wasn't until after a mob formed that you withdrew yourself as their supplier.

:shootfoot
 
Focal said:
Weren't you the sole supplier for BallBids.com who would hold penny auctions for ball pythons after you received full value? It wasn't until after a mob formed that you withdrew yourself as their supplier.

:shootfoot
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Hi Nick,
Yes, I sold some animals to a customer named Zack Byers. Zack did not tell me anything about BallBids. I was out of the country when he launched the site. When I found out, I quit selling to him. Please explain to me what I did wrong there. Do you propose a background check and an in home visit before every adoption? He has since contacted me and asked me to supply him some animals and I politely declined. Do you have something interesting to add to this thread?
 
Mike, Nick, either take it to PMs or to the BallBids thread. This thread needs to stay on topic. Thank you
 
im lost right now.

about what exatly is this thread?

is it about hg womas which looked different at the start, or is this about womas or is this about the granite gene which is often used in hg woma combos?


is it about kevin alledgedly posting hg woma combos on WOB which doesnt have a granite gene in it as hg woma granite combo, or about what is this whole thread?


or is this about finding out if ur woma is a hg woma?

what is the spoken off "truth" now?

im truly lost right now...

for me its enough when matt says that he got granites and granite combos from his hg woma granite (which looks like a normal hg woma with a dot in the neck- pretty subtile so to speak)- ive no reason to distrust him- even though hes a good friend of kevin.

to me ur woma and the original woma female look pretty similar, but so does ur pewter woma look similar to me compared to bhb's pewter woma.

the fact with the champagne pearls is interesting but doesnt necessarly proof its an hg woma cause champagnes react the same way with other genes.


as far as the hidden genes in generall goes- to me they simply dont exist and a lesser cant carry the het daddy gene without being a platinum. thats fact.

anyway- i guess ive made me a picture. im probably outta here...
 
well I don't know what all the ruckus is about. what I see is that a pewter hgw that has produced a pewter soul sucker, and several other gorgeous animals that I can only hope to be able to afford as the inferno ball, soul sucker, and the angel of death morphs are my favorites of all ball pythons. all I can do is thank joe and clark for their full disclosure and honesty and fair pricing. I will not tell you that I always agree with joe. but joe tells me the truth when he sells me a snake or anyone else for that matter. so enough already. k. matthews
 
I see in the near future a thread about how PHR scammed me buy selling me a normal pewter woma for $17,500 and now I can not get my money back. Wake up he is a market crasher and has not come to the plate on his own thread. Likes to dodge questions. So I ask where is the truth?
 
Mountain Top the ruckus is PHR touting their Woma combos as HGW combos when they are not. The combos they have are really nice, but they are regular Woma combos.

I have a HGW Granite Yellowbelly male. We bred him to a Cinny female and produced 2 Cinny HGW combo males. Pictures can be found on a search for Incinerator ball python. I do not think I am allowed to post the link since they are on a different web site.

Search it and tell me if the Cinny combos look anything like PHR's Cinny combos. In those picture threads you will also find a HGW Granite Yellowbelly that was in the clutch.

If the Sloans & Matts pictures and description, along with our photos do not show the difference in the Woma & HGW argument, I am not sure what will.

Mike Guy
 
gsrept said:
I see in the near future a thread about how PHR scammed me buy selling me a normal pewter woma for $17,500 and now I can not get my money back. Wake up he is a market crasher and has not come to the plate on his own thread. Likes to dodge questions. So I ask where is the truth?
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:iagree::iagree:

The "truth" is Joe and Clark are running circles playing he said she said proof this truth that we have it yet Nothing either of them said has a leg to stand on.. the truth is that Joe and Clark must both eat their own words as there OWN WORDS made them liars... so many lie's they can't even keep them straight... with that 17.5k you SCAMMED out of someone that probably doesn't know any better you should go buy a pencil and paper and start writing your lies down so you can keep track of them...

IMO anything the either of you produce will always be a KNOCK OFF of the real Morph it is said to represent... similar to that of fake Gucci bag's as personally I believe that you take an already named morph mix it in a little and then claim it to be yours and start a thread on who ever currently has that morph stating how yours is so much better and how yours is the real deal That may work once maybe ( although no one really bought your story then either similar to now as well ) no ONE is buying this " the truth " you keep saying and speaking of as you have failed and miserably I might add at providing any real evidence just broken emails and parts of emails nothing that proves any of the claims you've came here to state. The only truth is BY YOUR OWN WORDS IN A PREVIOUS POSTED EMAIL THAT YOU ARE IN FACT A LIAR...
 
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