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Info TRUTHS ABOUT THE HIDDEN GENE WOMA THAT ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT OF KEVIN MCCURELY(NERD)

It seems like Joe and Clark think everyone is wrong. You'd think after all these professionals came here and showed REAL PROOF, they'd think "maybe it's me?"
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
HI Clark and Joe,

The photos you asked for aren't a problem at all...but first:

1 - I will need to see digital photos of all your babies hatching from eggs all at once in the same manner that you are looking for and no less than 300dpi but no more than 400 dpi.

2 - The eggs will all need to be clumped together in a single container with no portion of a single egg touching any portion of a neighboring egg. (All sides of every egg needs to be visible and they must be laying east to west).

3 - All babies in each photo must be clearly seen anywhere from 10% out of the eggs - 78% out of the eggs and the dorsal and side patterns must all be visible. (No belly shots and no babies touching each other).

4 - It is necessary to have all of the babies eyes clearly visible in detail so color and clarity can be checked without having to enlarge the image.

5 - Every egg must have sire and dam written on it along with lay date and no portion of the writing can be blocked by the babies in the photos.

6 - Eggs may not be manually 'slit' and must have natural egg tooth slits in them.

7 - All babies in images must be facing the exact same direction so I don't have to rotate images while checking patterns and eye color.

Surely you have loads of images around where all the criteria above is met so I look forward to seeing some beautiful babies!

Thanks![/QUOTE

Matt if they are all coming out of one clutch it shouldn't be a problem and we want to see multiple clutches. All you have to do is take the camera off of macro..:) We also aren't concerned about eye color or which way they are facing..LOL..:)
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I do have this image saved as just a hidden gene woma but since I can't see a dorsal pattern I can't tell if it has granite or not.
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Joe at PHR said:
Ghi Reptiles said:
HI Clark and Joe,

The photos you asked for aren't a problem at all...but first:

1 - I will need to see digital photos of all your babies hatching from eggs all at once in the same manner that you are looking for and no less than 300dpi but no more than 400 dpi.

2 - The eggs will all need to be clumped together in a single container with no portion of a single egg touching any portion of a neighboring egg. (All sides of every egg needs to be visible and they must be laying east to west).

3 - All babies in each photo must be clearly seen anywhere from 10% out of the eggs - 78% out of the eggs and the dorsal and side patterns must all be visible. (No belly shots and no babies touching each other).

4 - It is necessary to have all of the babies eyes clearly visible in detail so color and clarity can be checked without having to enlarge the image.

5 - Every egg must have sire and dam written on it along with lay date and no portion of the writing can be blocked by the babies in the photos.

6 - Eggs may not be manually 'slit' and must have natural egg tooth slits in them.

7 - All babies in images must be facing the exact same direction so I don't have to rotate images while checking patterns and eye color.

Surely you have loads of images around where all the criteria above is met so I look forward to seeing some beautiful babies!

Thanks![/QUOTE

Matt if they are all coming out of one clutch it shouldn't be a problem and we want to see multiple clutches. All you have to do is take the camera off of macro..:) We also aren't concerned about eye color or which way they are facing..LOL..:)
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I'll try and get the shots this season! I've always taken photos to show the beauty of a single animal and not clutch results so nothing like you are asking for. But here are a couple more egg shots!
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Joe, you should be concerned with eye color, it is part of the HGW & not regular Woma. Of course you already know that, but will choose to ignore it.

Look at the eye on Matt's pic, looks different than a regular Woma.
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
I do have this image saved as just a hidden gene woma but since I can't see a dorsal pattern I can't tell if it has granite or not.
HGW.jpg
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Matt,
A bunch of eggs clumped together. Multiple clutches just step back and take picks of the full clutches coming out with eggs clumped together. With NON Granite HGW's, Granite HGW's, NON Granite single mutations or normals and NON HGW Granites all coming out. Not freshly hatched snakes. Genetically speaking, it should be a piece of cake...:)
 
Joe at PHR said:
Matt,
A bunch of eggs clumped together. Multiple clutches just step back and take picks of the full clutches coming out with eggs clumped together. With NON Granite HGW's, Granite HGW's, NON Granite single mutations or normals and NON HGW Granites all coming out. Not freshly hatched snakes. Genetically speaking, it should be a piece of cake...:)
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I promise I'll do it this season :yesnod:

Now...all joking aside...in one sentence...what are you looking for from the community as far as your womas are concerned? ONE SENTENCE ONLY.
 
Ghi Reptiles said:
I promise I'll do it this season :yesnod:

Now...all joking aside...in one sentence...what are you looking for from the community as far as your womas are concerned? ONE SENTENCE ONLY.
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Good luck with that one, as no one else with GHGW's can produce the genetic offspring pictures that the genetics are listed as say it should do...:)
 
At this point Joe...I'm pretty sure 99% of people reading this, think your being delusional, or you have an agenda.

This is insane.
 
Willow said:
At this point Joe...I'm pretty sure 99% of people reading this, think your being delusional, or you have an agenda.

This is insane.
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Delusional I think not. Just realistic and haven't seen any disclosure at all let alone full disclosure. Just the outrageous claims. Genetics have to make sense or it isn't genetic period, as I stated before especially in this case.

This is why Clark and I practice full disclosure period. As I stated at the beginning of the post. The pictures shouldn't be hard to produce that we requested period of the multiple clutches with all the different crosses of animals in them at all.

I am out and looking forward to the multiple pictures of the multiple clutches of the clumped eggs stuck together with NON Granite HGW's, Granite HGW's, real Granites (non hgw), and normals or single NON granite mutations all coming out of the same clutches of clumped eggs. Not individual pictures of eggs or freshly hatched snakes. Not a big request with everything that we provided for you.

Goodbye for now
 
Pictures have been provided...people have compared your animals, to ones that they have produced (like NERD, and GHI) to prove that your animals are normal woma crosses, NOT hidden gene woma crosses. You are trying to SCAM people by selling your animals as something they are not, even tho EVERYONE is saying your animals are NORMAL womas. You are delusional!

You have not PROVEN anything Joe, your animals don't have the right patterns, the right head fades, the right eye colors. NOTHING

The granite gene itself is NOT the only difference between your animals, and the multiple you have seen that have had granite, and some have not had ANY granite (just like your animals. STILL VERY DIFFERENT THEN YOURS)

My enchi lesser was PINK and lavender when it was in the egg... doesn't mean it's a hidden gene, so the whole pink in the egg thing can just stop.
 
Matt, why prove anything to him. EVERYBODY knows you have the real deal and not just a woma. He's hear talking smack, but you are the one posting all the pics.

Joe, lets see you post the same pics that you are on Matt to post of your clutches.
 
Now...all joking aside...in one sentence...what are you looking for from the com munity as far as your womas are concerned? ONE SENTENCE ONLY.
 
Joe at PHR said:
Good luck with that one, as no one else with GHGW's can produce the genetic offspring pictures that the genetics are listed as say it should do...:)
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Can someone please interpret this "sentence" for me? I have tried google translate and it came back "language unknown". Seriously, if someone knows what is being said here, will you please write this in a coherent manner for me?
 
Joe at PHR said:
Delusional I think not. Just realistic and haven't seen any disclosure at all let alone full disclosure. Just the outrageous claims. Genetics have to make sense or it isn't genetic period, as I stated before especially in this case.

This is why Clark and I practice full disclosure period. As I stated at the beginning of the post. The pictures shouldn't be hard to produce that we requested period of the multiple clutches with all the different crosses of animals in them at all.

I am out and looking forward to the multiple pictures of the multiple clutches of the clumped eggs stuck together with NON Granite HGW's, Granite HGW's, real Granites (non hgw), and normals or single NON granite mutations all coming out of the same clutches of clumped eggs. Not individual pictures of eggs or freshly hatched snakes. Not a big request with everything that we provided for you.

Goodbye for now
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I think someone's off their meds... So now you want people to post picture's of what your asking for yet you still haven't posted the emails that you say you have where Kevin admitted to doing wrong and mixing in other genes with his HGWs... :shrug01:

What have you provided except picture's of a woma in shed and at best cheap knock off Morphs that don't come close to resemblance to the morphs there said to be:shrug01:
 
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