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Bad Guy Constrictor Creations

Given this post you recently made in another thread that involved Constrictor Creations, I have to think that you decided to use his recent bad press to your own advantage.
Insidious said:
All I got out of this was that I'm not doing business with either one of them lol.

That's $1500 saved on my end! :)
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I wonder what changed your mind? I'm thinking that you may have decided to play the odds on him having trouble selling his snakes, and made a ridiculously low offer, hoping he'd accept it out of desperation. When he refused, I think you decided to just come here and try to pile-on. Were you counting on the idea that his recent bad publicity would blind us to the fact that you're the one that's really presented yourself in a bad light? I would have loved to see you present something that jives with my already low opinion of him. Unfortunately, he's not the one that comes off looking like a bit of a buffoon, this time.
 
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I'm not sure how people are getting hurt feelings out of this, perhaps I'm different. Lol

What it was about is that I made an offer based around things I very clearly addressed. Explaining WHY the offer was as low as it was. Rather than freaking out and being rude (which is why I brought this to the BOI in the first place, to show that as soon as it wasn't going his way he freaked out, which is childish and not pleasant I'm sure for any transaction, but apparently is much more commonplace from the way people are responding) I feel that it would have been decent to just say a simple no, rather than acting the way he had. I'm not sure how I came off as aggressive when he started the whole thing about me being disrespectful and insulting but apparently that's acceptable. I'll remember that, so I too can act childish.

As for my feelings, they are of pity. And laughter. This is bringing a smile to my face.
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it isn't like he flew off the handle at you. He actually, quite politely told you, that you were being disrespectful and insulting. That isn't the end of the world. I am sorry but there isn't really a NICE, glitter & rainbow colored sugar coated, way to deliver that sort of feedback. Are those taboo words for you? Umad? How dare he tell you how you were coming off to him... right? I would have too. Can't handle some constructive criticism? The following email, we see YOU flying off the handle.

For someone who doesn't care how people will judge you for the initial post, you sure are doing a lot of posting in attempts to justify why you acted the way you did. If you are so confident, why all the back peddling?

Even then, your logic is the same as a 5 year old's is. The bolded parts are what I am referring to. He pulled my hair! That means its okay for me to pull his back! :thumbsup:
 
Sarcasm never was well conveyed over the internet :/
I was hoping there might be an iota of intelligence here to pick up on some of my sarcasm, but I just might be wrong. As for me "back-peddling" I'm not trying to reason anything, I could easily leave it where it is, but I'm still trying to understand how you guys came to your conclusion that it was rude and insulting on my part to DARE to offer what I did, I'm not understanding how you came to your conclusions. Maybe I'm not supposed to. ^.^

As for flying off the handle, I guess exotic was more right than wrong in a way. Tone is something you really can't convey very well over the internet.

BTW, Umad? What does that even mean?
 
That's an intriguing theory. I like that your mind is open to such things.

However I would like for you to note the time he sent his first two responses, and the time I posted what you have quoted. I went digging after he threw the grammar comment at me if I was going to be dealing with a joker. I'm still not sure if he was running his mouth or joking at this point, but his responses tied in with what I found deterred me from even bothering with him but I felt that would be rude, so I went with what I reasoned out in my head and made what I felt was a logical offer on my part even after I had felt I didn't think I would be doing business with either party.
 
Why is this even here???? I am usually a lurker and don't post much at all, but I just had to with this one. I don't deal in snakes, I work with bearded dragons and iguanas. If I had a high end dragon up for grabs and you told me you would pay me half of what it was worth or what I paid for it, I would consider that an insult as well.....His reaction to your offer was not unfounded.
 
Wow..... is it just me or is this hobby attracting more and more complete morons?

I have had a couple of exchanges with Jason and they were courteous and I even had a phone call with him that was very pleasant even though I wasn't able to come to a deal.

@ Tom

I have heard the mind is a scary place but yours must be terrifying to "reason" out these conclusions of yours. You need to understand that the boas community isn't that big and it is getting smaller everyday. Your low all offer, unprovoked boi attack on Jason and your asinine comments in this thread has probably black balled you from more than just me. You are the type of customer no one wants and you will obviously be the type of seller that nobody will wants anything to do with.
 
Here is a question. The individual posting his complaint here states they have "knowledge and connections". With such knowledge, why on earth would they think a central american was 10 feet? That is odd to start with.

Secondly, if someone offered me almost half the value of a snake I was offering for sale, I would also say that they were low balling, and given the tone of the OP, I too would think they were being rude. I have had people do the same for animals I have been selling in the past and they are lucky to get a response.

Finally, if you wanted a breeder right now (lets not even go near quarantine procedures for example), why even consider a 2010 animal. To be female, and a proven breeder, that would be one unhealthy animal.

I see no issue with Jason in this post. He responded perfectly fine, in my eyes. I think the OP lacks knowledge here and would recommend they go to one of their connections to source an animal that is indeed very rare thing. I too own T+ sunglow motley CA's, and can say for a fact there are not many around at all. Those that are around, especially an 2010, is well worth $1500.

Warren
 
IMO, the wording of the offer of 800 had a tone to it, for some, maybe if had been adjusted a bit it may have been perceived different , a "low ball" amount is often countered with another offer, lower but closer to the original asking price. This happens A LOT. But there is a way to go about it. Knowing the seller was sensitive about his grammar after the 1st message was a clue to tone down your brains fun and make a deal. The OP had an excellent point about not proven or old enough yet, maybe could have gone for 1100 paid n full? Maybe not. I've saved hundreds between my transactions in just asking if the price is firm. Rarely is the price posted super firm and sometimes other deals that weren't listed pop up in fun conversation, may end up spending more but for an even better deal. The seller must be comfy with you tho. Usually the breeder works long and hard and cares deeply. Fair market values are hard to set on these creatures but most breeders will work with a good guy or gal if it means their stock goes to a good home. As for how much the seller paid, two years ago, does it matter? Just curious. Suppose it may...bigger/older/adjusted?
 
There would have been a very simple, polite way to word an email when inquiring about this animal:

"Hi, I saw your add on XXXXXXXXX. I have been interested in a sunglow motley for a while and am mainly looking for an adult, or proven breeder. I understand this is neither and I know this is a low ball offer, but would you consider taking $800 for it. I completely understand if that is unacceptable, but how about you come back with a counter offer?".

With that kind of email, I would then turn around and think, hmm, this person is interested. What is the lowest I will take. When I get emails like that, I counter. When I get emails that are clearly low ball offers, with some nonsense about "knowledge" and "connections", when I answer, I tell them to use their "knowledge" and go to their "connections" to get the animals they need at low ball prices.

There are ways to approach someone when interested in an animal but not willing or able to pay the asking price.

Warren
 
That's more of the answer I was looking for. :)

I wouldn't feel that is the exact way I'd word it, that isn't in my nature, but if giving my explanation the way I did about why I was offering what I did was rude, I'm not seeing it.

As for everything else. I don't care. I don't mind if people here decide not to buy/sell from me. I don't care what kinds of opinions people form.

As for you Warren. I'll keep what you said in mind for future reference, and try to not be maybe so blunt or set in stone.

Thank you. :)
 
The placement of the last sentence is wrong, the whole thing (almost) is for you Warren. As for a Bad Guy BoI needed or not, I just thought it was interesting at how he seemed to get excitable over what seemed like (and are apparently not, for reasons I just might not be able to understand) nothing but a common courtesy.

Either way. I'll say again. He apologized, gave an explanation which isn't my place to share, and I appreciated it. That at least is a redeeming quality. :)
 
Oh and Warren. I've got a 9'8" girl that looked VERY much like a CA boa when she was a baby. She's got good indicators for being BCI, but I'm thinking she might be a BCIxBCC mutt or just a freak. She's massive. And she is from late 2009.

@Christina Vincent I thought I was right and it is nice to see that someone else can see it from my point of view. But a lot of people think I was in the wrong. While I feel adamant about where I stand on being right or wrong, I do appreciate your input about how I could have helped the situation go better later by picking up the hint of grammar. I seldon do any business online or through email/text. I didn't think about it.
 
I didn't care what people's opinion of his was or becomes. I was showing people that he snapped. VERY quickly.

I didn't ask for anyone's opinion of he or I, you're entitled to it but I don't care what it is either way. :)

I'm done stating what I was showing.
 
Lol @ sarcasm. No it is not usually construed well thru text alone (without smileys duh). I am fluent in sarcasm and see it well but also have gotten pretty good at small hints that some others don't take it fondly or find it as funny as I...ok well BIG hints taught me to bite my tongue lol especially if I was the one in need or asking for a deal.
 
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