Bad Guy Scott Roscoe, horrible animal conditions. (Ohio buyers and sellers)

[ElexisC]

I've been debating on if I should post here or not. I bought a retic today, (rescued I should say) and it's face is in horrible condition from rubbing on a metal screen lid. He is 8ft long and was in a 75g tank they said, by the photos of the ad I believe it was really a 55g. I saw their ads on Craigslist and immediately saw the bad conditions they were kept in. Tried like crazy to get the retic today, well I finally did a few hours ago. Poor guys face will most likely be forever deformed. I just wanted to warn everyone about them, so as to not sell to them.

The guy I dealt with had to be around 17, his mom was making him get rid of the snake and iguana, he told me he also has another retic, a female, but she's smaller. They really didn't want me to go down stairs, she said it was trashed, so he brought the retic up stairs. I saw his face and knew I had to get him out of there. I think he may have been autistic, seemed to have trouble speaking and talked slow (not bashing him if he is, my 4 yr old is autistic)

We settled on $80 because they just wouldn't take less. I gave $60 in cash and $20 threw paypal. Well the email he gave me I sent the money to like I said I was going to right in front of him. He tells me that account wasn't made yet. So I said ok I'll cancel it when I get home, I'll send it to another account that's active (done from paypal balance not my bank) I get home and try to cancel the first, no cancel button, so I called paypal. They told me that first account was indeed active and that is was created a long time ago. They also said the only way I'll get it back is if they refund it, fat chance. So I filed a dispute, but doubt I'll get it back.

If Scott is indeed autistic or has some sort of disability then it's his mother's fault for the animals being in such condition and buying them in the first place. I did report to the humane society also.

Just wanted to warn any retic sellers in Ohio do not sell to them. I have photos of the ads and screen shots of texts. Let me get it all in order and I will post them after this.

 

[ElexisC]

Needless to say they never replied to my last text.

 

[ElexisC]

Photos of the iguana

 

[ElexisC]

How the retics face truly looks,

 

[scosta56]

Omg !!! That poor baby !!!! Thank god you saved him. I can't believe his face sits up like that. Do you think he is going to be able to eat ? That looks like he is gonna be in pain opening his mouth . He needs a vet visit asap some good meds and time to heal. God I feel so bad for him. Please keep me posted on him. I hope the humane society steps in. They really don't need any animals if this is the level of care they are gonna receive.

 

[ElexisC]

This is obviously an old injury, and the mom said that he originally wanted to meet somewhere but she said "she wasn't driving with a snake in her car" so by that I assume he's had no medical attention. It's almost completely healed. I'll get him into my vet asap but from what I can see there's no infection, doesn't have a small, and he acts fine otherwise. And when I emailed animal control they were already closed. I emailed so I could send the photos of the iguana still in their care.

 

[ElexisC]

 

[ElexisC]

Update on Tyson (his new name). He goes to the vet this Saturday at 11am. I noticed one nostril was actually slammed shut from his lip being pushed up like that. While taking the photo bubbles were coming out of the sides of his mouth (not shown in photo). Will post all vet info once I get him there and get the treatments for him.

 

[Mister Internet]

I'm not trying to derail the thread topic and make this about you, but why on earth are you literally spending the last of your liquid cash on this snake, with nothing in the bank, when by your own account you have children?? I understand the need to get an animal out of a bad situation, but your children come first, right? Why on earth would you put yourself, and them, in that situation?? And you knew it was "damaged goods" that was more than likely to cost you more money, possibly hundreds more, by the time it was all said and done... did you really need to have this snake that badly? Why not let Animal Control handle it?

Sorry, I just don't understand... obviously these people are everything you say they are and more. But geez.

 

[j_dunlavy]

aside from the rubbed nose,
it looks like you may have some mouth-rot pushing the lip up;
the bubbles could indicate respiratory infection;
getting the snake out of that situation was a noble thing for you to do but it may become an expensive rescue process; I hope you did not get yourself in over your head with the potential for large vet bills being very clear with this snake. You may consider locating a reptile rescue and trying to get some help with this one.

I wish you the best of luck in rehabilitating this guy and Hope the snake is able to make a full recovery.

 

[Mac's Morphs]

I'm not trying to derail the thread topic and make this about you, but why on earth are you literally spending the last of your liquid cash on this snake, with nothing in the bank, when by your own account you have children?? I understand the need to get an animal out of a bad situation, but your children come first, right? Why on earth would you put yourself, and them, in that situation?? And you knew it was "damaged goods" that was more than likely to cost you more money, possibly hundreds more, by the time it was all said and done... did you really need to have this snake that badly? Why not let Animal Control handle it?

Sorry, I just don't understand... obviously these people are everything you say they are and more. But geez.

He never said the $63 was ALL of his money, he said that was all of his CASH he had on him. Many people now a days no longer carry cash on them, almost 90% of things now a days are paid for by credit card/debit card or some other electronic payment(paypal, etc) and almost every store/business accepts credit cards/debit cards. Having "liquid cash" isn't common or needed since you can usually find an ATM at any part store/gas station or bank and take money out if its needed.

 

[ElexisC]

I'm not trying to derail the thread topic and make this about you, but why on earth are you literally spending the last of your liquid cash on this snake, with nothing in the bank, when by your own account you have children?? I understand the need to get an animal out of a bad situation, but your children come first, right? Why on earth would you put yourself, and them, in that situation?? And you knew it was "damaged goods" that was more than likely to cost you more money, possibly hundreds more, by the time it was all said and done... did you really need to have this snake that badly? Why not let Animal Control handle it?

Sorry, I just don't understand... obviously these people are everything you say they are and more. But geez.

Maybe because my fiance gets paid every Saturday, he also just sold the car that wasn't running sitting in our driveway. All I had on ME was 60. He had over 300 and I was trying to get them to go down on price because it was "damaged goods" as you put it. I did it to save his life. And my kids have everything they need thank you. Instead of being ignorant why not ask politely?

 

[ElexisC]

I didn't want animal control to get their hands on this snake so they could euthanize it. I tried like crazy to get the boa that was loose in Niles Ohio. ODNR ran me on circles and then said he was going to be used for "educational purposes" after I tried to find out the rescue that had him and they refused to tell me. I didn't want this snake to be another statistic for the news to use against us, and to save his life! They are also selling a small female retic but I cannot get her because I'm putting money into him. My vet is allowing payments. I'm not paying the full cost up front because I have an awesome vet that works with people so if his care does run a large bill I have a payment plan. I knew all of this before taking him on. So please before anyone else is rude like he was I have this under control and he is in a good home now. I was trying to warn Ohio buyers and sellers to beware, to get the rest of the animals away, and beware they will lie to get more money.

Btw I have yet to heat back from the humane society. I sent them photos of the iguana from their ad, their texts which contained their address etc, everything they would need to start an investigation. I haven't heard a word, which I doubt I will. Whenever I emailed about a dog, if they were open they would contact me that day, if they were closed it was next morning. So I doubt they're going to do anything and also it seems like our humane society barely does anything unless it's news worthy or about the "traditional" pets.

 

[ElexisC]

Sorry for the spelling errors, my phone sometimes changes words to others that are spelled very similarly and it's a fault I don't proof read, probably should.

 

[bcr229]

Btw I have yet to heat back from the humane society.

Sadly that is not uncommon, most are out of their depth if not dealing with either cute & cuddly, or livestock. Heck several counties call us if there's a snake to deal with, because they don't want to.

 

[ElexisC]

Yea, I know how ours operates. Not to derail, but I kept calling about a neighbor letting all their dogs loose. Beagle, big mix breed, and two small black dogs I think they were puppies. Took one of those puppies getting run over for them to do anything and they still let them loose after that. Our humane society I feel is a joke which is why I got him the **** out of there! I did not want them getting him, they would have made him seem bigger than he was and called him dangerous etc. After everything he still had not struck at me, only hissed and flung his body to push my hand away lol. I think once he's treated and feeling better he may be a sweety, or I may have an animal that has a ton more energy than he does now lol I just wish my vet was in tomorrow, I see an actual specialist so they're only at the office on certain days.

 

[Mister Internet]

He never said the $63 was ALL of his money, he said that was all of his CASH he had on him. Many people now a days no longer carry cash on them, almost 90% of things now a days are paid for by credit card/debit card or some other electronic payment(paypal, etc) and almost every store/business accepts credit cards/debit cards. Having "liquid cash" isn't common or needed since you can usually find an ATM at any part store/gas station or bank and take money out if its needed.

Of course. I wouldn't have said anything if I'd gotten that impression, but the text messages themselves said that she had a total of $63 to her name in the whole world, with nothing in the bank. Those are her words not mine. That's what concerned me. NO ANIMAL is worth leaving oneself completely depleted of funds when children are involved.

Maybe because my fiance gets paid every Saturday, he also just sold the car that wasn't running sitting in our driveway. All I had on ME was 60. He had over 300 and I was trying to get them to go down on price because it was "damaged goods" as you put it. I did it to save his life. And my kids have everything they need thank you. Instead of being ignorant why not ask politely?

I did ask politely. I apologize for not using more smiley faces. As a father of two myself, this is close to my heart and perhaps it sounded more caustic than I intended.

My question remains, however. With no money in the bank, and living paycheck to paycheck (no judgment intended, I've been there many times myself), why take on such an ill-advised rescue that is going to cost you a lot of money you don't have? I certainly applaud your heart and intentions, but during times when money has been sparse and our kids have been involved, that was my cue to get RID of animals, which I did, not acquire more.

Sorry, I'm truly derailing the thread now. I just thought it was worthy food for thought.

 

[ElexisC]

Of course. I wouldn't have said anything if I'd gotten that impression, but the text messages themselves said that she had a total of $63 to her name in the whole world, with nothing in the bank. Those are her words not mine. That's what concerned me. NO ANIMAL is worth leaving oneself completely depleted of funds when children are involved.



I did ask politely. I apologize for not using more smiley faces. As a father of two myself, this is close to my heart and perhaps it sounded more caustic than I intended.

My question remains, however. With no money in the bank, and living paycheck to paycheck (no judgment intended, I've been there many times myself), why take on such an ill-advised rescue that is going to cost you a lot of money you don't have? I certainly applaud your heart and intentions, but during times when money has been sparse and our kids have been involved, that was my cue to get RID of animals, which I did, not acquire more.

Sorry, I'm truly derailing the thread now. I just thought it was worthy food for thought.

Because we don't put all put money in the bank. You do not know my situation at all and are putting YOUR situation onto mine. I know how to take care of my family and animals.

You are coming off as very rude. It's not like I have 100 animals in my house and 5 kids. This is going very far off topic, you're bringing my home life into it, which you obviously have no idea what it's like, how much money we have, how many animals we have etc. I do not appreciate you jumping to such conclusions and making me out to be a bad mother for taking in an animal in need. I've always rescued animals. When I had my first son and taking care of my disabled father I was still rescuing dogs. I see an animal in need and if I can get it and care for it I will, I don't take on more than I can.

My reptile specialist does payment plans, and it's not like his care is going to end up $600. You're acting as if I just took food put of their mouths to help an animal. And did you even read what I said? He gets paid every saturday, we just sold a car, he had all that money on him, AT WORK, I had the $63 on me personally and I really didn't want to pay a ton of money for the snake because it needed help, and because they only wanted money off its suffering. Now stop making this about me, my kids, and home life, which you know nothing about.

 

[ElexisC]

Really getting annoyed at this phone for changing words.. I really need to proof read..

 

[minicopilot1]

Maybe because my fiance gets paid every Saturday, he also just sold the car that wasn't running sitting in our driveway. All I had on ME was 60. He had over 300 and I was trying to get them to go down on price because it was "damaged goods" as you put it. I did it to save his life. And my kids have everything they need thank you. Instead of being ignorant why not ask politely?

Well said.