I don't know what to think, been following this from the start it's interesting to say the least.
I agree that it would be interesting to know why Mike wanted to pay more for the frogs ?? but in no way do I see Mike as a scammer or a thief
it would also be interesting to know why the OP doesn't want his frogs back ??? this to me is a better ?? the obvious , is the sick ones and the $$$ he banked on.
the most bizzar in all of this post !! is that many other BOI where a seller went and shipped items before payment was recieved and then agreement not met, eveyone is on the case and requesting that the buyer either pays or ships the animals back to make it right????
in this case the buyer not only agrees to ship the animals back, but he wil replace the dead sick ones as well so the seller is not out of anything, he even pays shipping !!!!!
I understand that it's a bummer when a buyer bails out, it happens all the time and in most cases animals never got shipped.
what would the OP have done if he kept them until payment date, then the buyers says sorry no $$ yet, i can't pay until another few weeks.. would he go ahead and say , sorry you said you would pay me by then , so i'm shipping the frogs and you owe me $$$$
Don't think so !!!
but the reverse is happening, he sent the frogs, buyer can't pay right away, OP doesn't want to wait for $$$
you can't force someone to buy something they can't afford, Mike asked to have more time and that"s not acceptable to the OP.
so he should take his frogs back and sell them..
I'm pretty sure that if this went to court and the details of all this is put down in front of the judge, the verdict would be, he can't pay you, therfore you either accept your frogs back or agree on a payment terms..if you don't want them back and refuse his payment then the case is dismissed and you lose the frogs and the $$$ not much else can be done if the OP rfuses both solutions ??? the OP knew the buyer couldn't pay right away and he went ahead and shipped them..
you can get out of an official contract even when signed, you can buy something and if you don't pay, the repo will drop by and return the item to the owner (most cases the bank) in this case the op !!!
some animals were sick on top of that, buyer sent proof that he lost most of his animals and always agreed to pay for them but needed more time, couldn't right away,so he offerd to send animals back plus the dead one replaced.. can't ask for any better then that.. scammer or thief would not do that..
I understand Rick would prefer to have $$ that he's most likely aready spent but the reality is, Mike can't pay for them in the time frame rick wants him to.
so really only two choices here, OP either agrees to wait for the $$ BUT that bridge is burnt now, or take his animals back, he can't force MIKE to take them..
bottom line is, the frogs never belonged to Mike since he never paid for them, they belong to Rick..
I haven't bothered reading the past post that some have refered to in this one, Mike may have a past or even Rick.. BUT to me that's not relevant to the way this BOI is dealth with. it's what's being done and how things are handled in this post that are important..
and the way i see it no one loses anything if Rick just takes his frogs back that never should have been shipped in the first place.. it's not fun to lose a good sale but it's worst to lose a sales $$ and the animals like so many others have..
