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Bad Guy Bad Apple Craig Wyatt.

I've read enough. I don't think you did anything wrong Craig. The OP has proven himself to be a shady character with multiple accounts, no vet visit and exhibits plenty of signs of being a scammer who has been forced to do some back peddling. Earlier on he said, "otherwise I'm just going to spend the rest of my day writing a story". That was a bullying tactic if I ever saw one, and a hasty one at that being a vet visit had not been arranged yet. Then later he says, "I was not going to post a review on you at all. All I was going to do was post the video and ask the community what they thought"...pack peddling. The OP's rep is now in question. As far as I'm concerned, yours is not.

Meant to type "writing a 'nice' story".
 
Thanks guys. And I was thinking the same exact thing about going to church all the time. Who says that. I'll tell you who someone trying there hardest to get me to believe a BS story.
I think I'm pretty trustworthy but I'll never bring God into a conversation to try to prove it. It's over the top and it sticks out like sore thumb.
 
Craig,

Do you know what was meant in post #157 when he states he could post from the Underground Reptiles account ? Perhaps that will begin to point you towards his real identity. Sorry I could not get the quote or copy function to post the message I am referring to.
 
Yea Scott I remember the reference to "his Underground reptiles" account too
Is it just a huge coincidence that Underground are based in Deerfield Beach as well?
Not wishing to cast any aspersions or drag Underground into this but it seems mr Dunner by mentioning that in text to Craig has already done so
 
Post 166 is what pushed me over the edge. At that point I was realizing he was out to get me if he didn't end up with everything. If you notice as soon as I said "your paid" all the bullying stopped. At that exact moment is when he completely successfully scammed me. And you can see immediately his while additude turned around.
As you can also see I could not de-escalate it with just a full refund upon him shipping back. Which would have made the situation whole again. He wasn't going to stop threatening me until he had everything. He is the definition of a greedy scammer.
I'm not sure about him posing on undergrounds website was about.
 
Scott. Do you think by what your reading that he has something to do with underground reptiles.
I would really hate to drag there name through this if it not necessary.
 
post 157 is where he says he will post under "ill post a review under the underground reptiles deerfield beach account"
strange choice of words there
does not say his account but still the mention of account is very odd?
 
Post 166 is what pushed me over the edge. At that point I was realizing he was out to get me if he didn't end up with everything. If you notice as soon as I said "your paid" all the bullying stopped. At that exact moment is when he completely successfully scammed me. And you can see immediately his while additude turned around.
As you can also see I could not de-escalate it with just a full refund upon him shipping back. Which would have made the situation whole again. He wasn't going to stop threatening me until he had everything. He is the definition of a greedy scammer.
I'm not sure about him posing on undergrounds website was about.

Craig,
He said he could post using the Underground ACCOUNT not WEBSITE.
 
So what do you think that statement exactly meant. How could he use his account to post something on there sight. I just looked at there sight and I don't see anything like a feedback button to click on to post something. But maybe I'm missing something. Either that or it was just a flat out lie. Which wouldn't surprise me.
 
I just texted Mark Dunner/ James Bland and asked him to rejoin this thread using his other account. His Mark Dunner account is banned but his James Bland account has not yet been banned so he can come here if he chooses.
 
Scott. Do you think by what your reading that he has something to do with underground reptiles.
I would really hate to drag there name through this if it not necessary.
Looking at this thread, Underground would never know that their name was called, so I emailed them.
Whether or not they are involved, especially if they are not involved, I feel they have a right to know what the OP said in his post.
 
Post 166 is what pushed me over the edge. At that point I was realizing he was out to get me if he didn't end up with everything. If you notice as soon as I said "your paid" all the bullying stopped. At that exact moment is when he completely successfully scammed me. And you can see immediately his while additude turned around.
As you can also see I could not de-escalate it with just a full refund upon him shipping back. Which would have made the situation whole again. He wasn't going to stop threatening me until he had everything. He is the definition of a greedy scammer.
I'm not sure about him posing on undergrounds website was about.

Whether it is protection money, loan shark points, taking back the Rhineland, or something like this, history indicates that a malevolent human's advances are not inclined to be abated through appeasement.
 
I do not know if this guy has anything to do with Underground. If he did, that would seem like a serious misstep of strategy to bring it up.

Additionally, this guy has been known to offer/employ a red herring when trying to obfuscate. There is precedent for a pattern of behavior doing this. This could simply be another instance, so entertaining it should be approached with some skepticism and caution as a matter of prudence.
 
Post 166 is what pushed me over the edge.
I don't personally think anything you've shown comes even close to qualifying as bullying. He certainly had no problem capitalizing on the fact that you lacked the courage of your convictions, but you can't really say you were forced into anything. Unless there's much more self-incriminating info that you're not sharing, I just can't wrap my head around what made you think that any story he would choose to come tell us would make you look bad. In my eyes, you lying to us was more damaging than anything he could have presented.

You've been around here more than long enough to see just how effectively the BOI weeds out the bogus claims. Hell, you already have a couple of threads from back in '02 that appear much more damning than anything he could have said about you, so it just doesn't make much sense that you were so willing to cave in to him. Unless you choose to believe that you wouldn't get a fair shake around here, I'd suggest that you have faith in the system and not shy away from standing up for yourself in future situations where you absolutely believe you're in the right.
 
I also wanted to share this email. This is the first time he ever signed his name Mark. Even though it's coming through Mark Dunner as an email address he's always maintained his name was James Bland. The top part of the email is cut out because I countnt get it all in there. The point of this is to show that this is the first time he's personal called himself Mark to me. I did respond and say "who's Mark" but he didn't respond to the question. I'm guessing he then realized he screwed up and I caught his screw up. If you guys want to see the top let me know.
 

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I would call Underground, and talk to Ryan or Rian - ask if they have this person in their employ. Explain (to him) the comment about making a post under their account.
 
Dan. Please stay off this. You have had it out for me since the Connor thread. This has nothing to with courage. I each spinach in a regular basis. My reputation is worth more than $200. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. Please don't derail this thread.
If you would gamble it for the same dollar amount that's on you. $200 isn't much more than dinner and movies with the family. $200 is really not that much money. Now if it was $500 this would be a different story.
I don't understand why you insist on attacking my character.
I already know by posting this you are going to fly of the handle and go on a long rant. I've seen lots of your work first hand. You always take cheap shots. Well go ahead. What ever makes you feel like a man. I dont need to try to make people feel small to boost my myself up. I don't do it and I won't do it because I don't have a confidence problem.
Do what you want. As far as I'm concerned I backed up every single thing I said with the texts.
So here ya go. Now with your next attack I will be able to show people that I have your personality type pegged down.
 
Dan. Please stay off this. You have had it out for me since the Connor thread. This has nothing to with courage. I each spinach in a regular basis. My reputation is worth more than $200. IT IS THAT SIMPLE. Please don't derail this thread.
If you would gamble it for the same dollar amount that's on you. $200 isn't much more than dinner and movies with the family. $200 is really not that much money. Now if it was $500 this would be a different story.
I don't understand why you insist on attacking my character.
I already know by posting this you are going to fly of the handle and go on a long rant. I've seen lots of your work first hand. You always take cheap shots. Well go ahead. What ever makes you feel like a man. I dont need to try to make people feel small to boost my myself up. I don't do it and I won't do it because I don't have a confidence problem.
Do what you want. As far as I'm concerned I backed up every single thing I said with the texts.
So here ya go. Now with your next attack I will be able to show people that I have your personality type pegged down.

Don't sweat the small stuff. He is in the minority here. It's what people who are miserable with their own lives do. Don't bother entertaining it. It's obvious who is in the wrong here, and it isn't you. What he has ignored is the obvious. No consultation with a certified vet. Multiple accounts. Threats of spending a day to submit a nice story on you. Let Dan go to bat for the real bad guy here. Please. I read enough to know I would do business with you anytime. Let the chips fall where they may.
 
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