Bad Guy Mike Matson (Mikes Phat Frogs)

[jrsexotics]

I will address Mr. Bumps claims on here. I will not argue back and forth with members that are not involved in the transaction.

*Frogs were overheated during transit which resulted in a loss of some of the animals. One other box experienced the same that went to a large reptile company. There animals were replaced in the following few weeks as it was only peppermints and greens.
*40 degree temp change between day and night from Fullerton,CA to Butler,PA.
**** fedex did not keep the boxes in a cool area while traveling to be shipped out of California.
*Mr. Bump lost a few animals upon arrival and proceeded to for a few following days.
*He was told they would be replaced. Not only the DOA but the Entire box of 20 frogs for the inconvenience of the DOA.
*I have produced plenty of peppermints in the last two months for replacements but have not produced pure lime green albinos.
*Last check in from MR bump was the end of April (SEE attached below) when he was made aware that peppermints were only out of the water.
* I have not had any messages from mr bump since
*May 22nd he opened a PayPal claim for a refund on all of the animals minus shipping. (Total box loss was 9 out of 20) so, keeping 11 frogs for free seems reasonable to him.
* I was not aware of the PayPal claim until 2-3 days ago.

* Mr. Bump also claims that all of the peppermints have browned out. I have seen pictures of 2 animals. Which I assume is the 2 darkest appearing peppermints and still a solid green color. He has not posted a group photo like I have asked the last few days.
* Peppermints are a solid green pacman frog. Shades from a dark olive to almost a green color with blue highlights. This is my line that I created.
*Brown out means the frog coloration goes from green to brown. This is common with another breeders line of green pacman frogs.

A pic showing an example of brown out is attached below

Mr Bump has made a PayPal claim for a full refund. I do not mind refunding for the 9 DOA animals. I offered a full box replacement of animals for the inconvenience put on him for 9 DOA frogs when both colors are available for shipping. It was not his fault nor mine that they arrived DOA. We have to rely on a 3rd party to transport fragile animals for us.

If Mr Bump is willing to accept lime green albino mix pacman frogs in replacement for the others. I will send 24 frogs out on the 8th. Following arrival the current PayPal claim being cancelled.

Otherwise, this matter is left up to PayPal and they will decide the outcome.

 

[jrsexotics]

Last communication along with him letting me know all of the peppermints were doing great. No complaints

I will address Mr. Bumps claims on here. I will not argue back and forth with members that are not involved in the transaction.

*Frogs were overheated during transit which resulted in a loss of some of the animals. One other box experienced the same that went to a large reptile company. There animals were replaced in the following few weeks as it was only peppermints and greens.
*40 degree temp change between day and night from Fullerton,CA to Butler,PA.
**** fedex did not keep the boxes in a cool area while traveling to be shipped out of California.
*Mr. Bump lost a few animals upon arrival and proceeded to for a few following days.
*He was told they would be replaced. Not only the DOA but the Entire box of 20 frogs for the inconvenience of the DOA.
*I have produced plenty of peppermints in the last two months for replacements but have not produced pure lime green albinos.
*Last check in from MR bump was the end of April (SEE attached below) when he was made aware that peppermints were only out of the water.
* I have not had any messages from mr bump since
*May 22nd he opened a PayPal claim for a refund on all of the animals minus shipping. (Total box loss was 9 out of 20) so, keeping 11 frogs for free seems reasonable to him.
* I was not aware of the PayPal claim until 2-3 days ago.

* Mr. Bump also claims that all of the peppermints have browned out. I have seen pictures of 2 animals. Which I assume is the 2 darkest appearing peppermints and still a solid green color. He has not posted a group photo like I have asked the last few days.
* Peppermints are a solid green pacman frog. Shades from a dark olive to almost a green color with blue highlights. This is my line that I created.
*Brown out means the frog coloration goes from green to brown. This is common with another breeders line of green pacman frogs.

A pic showing an example of brown out is attached below

Mr Bump has made a PayPal claim for a full refund. I do not mind refunding for the 9 DOA animals. I offered a full box replacement of animals for the inconvenience put on him for 9 DOA frogs when both colors are available for shipping. It was not his fault nor mine that they arrived DOA. We have to rely on a 3rd party to transport fragile animals for us.

If Mr Bump is willing to accept lime green albino mix pacman frogs in replacement for the others. I will send 24 frogs out on the 8th. Following arrival the current PayPal claim being cancelled.

Otherwise, this matter is left up to PayPal and they will decide the outcome.

 

[jrsexotics]

True brown out example in the pic attached

Last communication along with him letting me know all of the peppermints were doing great. No complaints

 

[kcexotics]

No I opened a dispute for a partial refund minus shipping you turned it down and escalated it to a claim. Following arrival, PayPal dispute will be canceled, PM me shipping costs.

 

[jrsexotics]

No I opened a dispute for a partial refund minus shipping you turned it down and escalated it to a claim. Following arrival, PayPal dispute will be canceled, PM me shipping costs.

Don't worry about the shipping cost. I will pay for shipping.

Do you want
10 peppermint
14 lime green albino mix

Or Mix group with 24 total of the below morphs
Strawberry pineapple
Lime green albino mixes
Peppermint
Tans

You can pm me on Facebook if you would like or just post the decision on here. I'll pm you the shipping label tracking this upcoming week. Plan for them to ship the 8th for the 9th arrival. If frogs are ready sooner, I will let you know.

Glad to get this taken care of.

 

[kcexotics]

As far as I'm concerned nine frogs and were square, I'm not asking for anything more than what's owed to me. I filed the disputed after a month of not hearing from you. Any kind of simple even one word correspondence would have avoided all of this. A mix of any frogs totaling at least nine, is fine with me, especially if your covering shipping costs.

 

[jrsexotics]

As far as I'm concerned nine frogs and were square, I'm not asking for anything more than what's owed to me. I filed the disputed after a month of not hearing from you. Any kind of simple even one word correspondence would have avoided all of this. A mix of any frogs totaling at least nine, is fine with me, especially if your covering shipping costs.

Pm me on Facebook or email me direct at [email protected]
That is the best way to get ahold of me.

I will send you over the tracking before they ship out.

 

[clintdowns]

Awesome job Mike. I think that this was handled great. Can't wait to receive mine in the next week or so.

 

[Black Adder]

So am I reading right that Matsons ban was lifted
SERIOUSLY?
That is very disappointing indeed.
And I am sure I am not the only one to think that way.....

 

[clintdowns]

You know, if a person is going to be able to create a BOI thread on a person, don't you think he should be able to defend hisself. The ban was lifted so the problem could get worked out, as it did. Win Win situation.

 

[hhmoore]

So am I reading right that Matsons ban was lifted
SERIOUSLY?
That is very disappointing indeed.
And I am sure I am not the only one to think that way.....

This has been expressed in other threads; so I will address it once, here.
I'm fairly confident in saying that most people here don't remember why Mike Matson was banned in the first place. When that ban was lifted, it was done without any fanfare...and the account remained unused for some time. During a similar situation (a member relaying information), I pointed out that his account was active & and he could come speak for himself. What was not revealed (because it really isn't any of anybody's business) is that the infraction points were not removed from the account....and, in fairly short order, Mike's posts earned him the points to trigger another ban. To be honest, in other circumstances, it wouldn't have been enough points to trigger even a 3 day ban.
That said, it also bears mentioning that we do not ban people for business practices (unless they violate site rules in the process).
Also, occasionally people change. Just because somebody was a here five (or more) years ago doesn't mean they will always be a ; or that they can't become a solid, upstanding, member of a community. Years ago, a banned member could get his access restored in order to respond to a BOI thread - I like that option; and I agree with considering it on an individual basis.

When a banned member is given access, it is probationary; and there is little tolerance granted.

 

[jrsexotics]

I was a pain and did not carry myself well at those times. Now, I am only commenting towards the OP or moderators when questions are asked. Maybe I'll avoid heated back and forth conversations that way and stay away from being banned. Along, with being somewhat more mature.

Most of my online business will go back towards the wholesale side and less retail. Especially, with my full line pet store opening up this fall. Minor issues are blown out of proportion on the online retail side where as the wholesale business is very relaxed and easy going.

Once again, I do appreciate Rich allowing me to post again.

This thread for now has been worked out and Mr Bump I feel will be pleased with the frogs he will receive shortly.

This has been expressed in other threads; so I will address it once, here.
I'm fairly confident in saying that most people here don't remember why Mike Matson was banned in the first place. When that ban was lifted, it was done without any fanfare...and the account remained unused for some time. During a similar situation (a member relaying information), I pointed out that his account was active & and he could come speak for himself. What was not revealed (because it really isn't any of anybody's business) is that the infraction points were not removed from the account....and, in fairly short order, Mike's posts earned him the points to trigger another ban. To be honest, in other circumstances, it wouldn't have been enough points to trigger even a 3 day ban.
That said, it also bears mentioning that we do not ban people for business practices (unless they violate site rules in the process).
Also, occasionally people change. Just because somebody was a here five (or more) years ago doesn't mean they will always be a ; or that they can't become a solid, upstanding, member of a community. Years ago, a banned member could get his access restored in order to respond to a BOI thread - I like that option; and I agree with considering it on an individual basis.

When a banned member is given access, it is probationary; and there is little tolerance granted.

 

[312Herps]

I was a pain and did not carry myself well at those times. Now, I am only commenting towards the OP or moderators when questions are asked. Maybe I'll avoid heated back and forth conversations that way and stay away from being banned. Along, with being somewhat more mature.

Most of my online business will go back towards the wholesale side and less retail. Especially, with my full line pet store opening up this fall. Minor issues are blown out of proportion on the online retail side where as the wholesale business is very relaxed and easy going.

Once again, I do appreciate Rich allowing me to post again.

This thread for now has been worked out and Mr Bump I feel will be pleased with the frogs he will receive shortly.

Until you pay the debts you owe you're still the same person IMO you have the paypal , pay you debts Mike.

Same pile , just different flies .

 

[jrsexotics]

Like I have stated in the other threads.

Here is my mailing address Rick
7381 walnut ave, Buena Park,CA 90620

Take it to court. Can't wait!

However, you will sit and hide on behind the computer with one insult after another. Nothing will change because you know what will happen if you go to court

 

[Fangthane]

However, you will sit and hide on behind the computer with one insult after another.

Coming from you, that's just rich.

... so densely hypocritical that it has its own event horizon.

Gotta love a good astrophysics reference.

 

[jrsexotics]

Coming from you, that's just rich.

Gotta love a good astrophysics reference.

You crack me up..... A nobody in the hobby with a lot of free time. Stock my Facebook page some more

 

[Fangthane]

You crack me up..... A nobody in the hobby with a lot of free time. Stock my Facebook page some more

A nobody who's gone out of his way to help a great many people in this hobby by playing a part in exposing you and your kind for what they truly are - with absolutely nothing to gain from any of it. My sole purpose here is to use truth and logic for the betterment of all your potential victims. Your sole purpose is to help yourself, no matter how much you have to continuously lie and steal to accomplish it. All in all, I feel pretty good about the role I play.

Can't help noticing your Fakebook coward brigade is conspicuously absent from your threads on here. Though foolish enough to associate with you, it'd seem they've mustered just enough smarts to avoid being associated with you in a venue that actually counts. I guess the truest friends really are those you don't have to bribe for their support.

 

[Lucille]

Until you pay the debts you owe you're still the same person

Agreed. There is enough here to allow potential buyers to make an informed choice about whether to buy from Matson or not.

 

[jrsexotics]

I don't ask anyone to comment here on fauna. The information they give is disregarded or they are threatened with a ban. Hence why very few people use this site. Fauna is not the police of the reptile community as much as Lucille and others would like to believe so.

Dan this is the first time I have heard of your name. I doubt you help as much as you think you do.....

This is nothing but free advertising. I have 30 shipments going out on Monday and 2 exports in the next 3 weeks. See a lot of them see thru the worthless threads of a few bad transactions.

Glad these threads give you some meaning to life though

A nobody who's gone out of his way to help a great many people in this hobby by playing a part in exposing you and your kind for what they truly are - with absolutely nothing to gain from any of it. My sole purpose here is to use truth and logic for the betterment of all your potential victims. Your sole purpose is to help yourself, no matter how much you have to continuously lie and steal to accomplish it. All in all, I feel pretty good about the role I play.

Can't help noticing your Fakebook coward brigade is conspicuously absent from your threads on here. Though foolish enough to associate with you, it'd seem they've mustered just enough smarts to avoid being associated with you in a venue that actually counts. I guess the truest friends really are those you don't have to bribe for their support.

 

[jrsexotics]

As far as this thread goes and the OP. Mike Bump is having 24 pacman frogs shipped to him on Monday. Not only 9 replacements but 15 extra frogs for free.