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Bad Guy SCAMMER!!! Jay Mcnight / Jason Ciconne/ Franklin Chams Chams/SCAMMER

No I am not insinuating anything. PLEASE Don't twist my words.

Julia explain why I never recieved any pics. Explain why Jay refused to send them to me.
 
I'm not even into chams but again there's 2 sides to every story and now you're not looking so hot. Just my opinion of course.

And if someone sent me sick animals, yea id blast them, but I would then get them vet care and NOT send them back. If they came sick chances are they would remain sick when sent back.

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Again Mr Wyatt all answers are in the video sorry you don't understand and as i said before asking the same question over and over does not strengthening your case it makes you look wrong
 
Julia.C said:
Again Mr Wyatt all answers are in the video sorry you don't understand and as i said before asking the same question over and over does not strengthening your case it makes you look wrong
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If everything was cleared with the moderators and are allowed to continue to post please post the vet report
 
ElexisOrtiz said:
I'm not even into chams but again there's 2 sides to every story and now you're not looking so hot. Just my opinion of course.

And if someone sent me sick animals, yea id blast them, but I would then get them vet care and NOT send them back. If they came sick chances are they would remain sick when sent back.

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Ok I'll respect your opinion. We will just have to agree to disagree.
 
Julia.C said:
Again Mr Wyatt all answers are in the video sorry you don't understand and as i said before asking the same question over and over does not strengthening your case it makes you look wrong
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Sorry Julia. But your inability to type out my answer doesn't make me look wrong. That video can be taken down at any time. But your words will forever be right here.
Based on the other thread you posted you received a comment from a mod that's basically saying to tread lightly. Husband and wife's can be considered the same person during a ban. More or less.
Start typing please while your still here. I really really NEED your response to be typed out.
I can see that video being deleted very soon. Then what? That's why it's important for you to type it out here. If it's in your favor why not just say it?
 
If I were either party here - buyer or seller - I would go above and beyond to get my near $1,000 back. With all due respect to both parties, it seems there is a lack of sufficient evidence on both sides. Losing a money order, despite being made out to Cash, if I'm not mistaken, is no excuse. I gave advice on how to retrieve a lost receipt. Without sufficient documentation, neither case can be settled; however, I'd advise both parties file their complaints and let the FBI determine who is at fault. Like I said, they investigate Internet fraud. Small claims does not. Bantering back and forth here hasn't accomplished much in regards to getting your money back.

Furthermore, anyone with experience in these types of cases doesn't take the lawyer/police card seriously. Lawyers do not waste their time with small claims and neither do police. FBI IC3 is the best course of action here for all of you, but remember, he who provides the best documentation wins.

I hope to see this resolved and the results posted, though be advised it does take some time.

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If I were either party here - buyer or seller - I would go above and beyond to get my near $1,000 back. With all due respect to both parties, it seems there is a lack of sufficient evidence on both sides. Losing a money order, despite being made out to Cash, if I'm not mistaken, is no excuse. I gave advice on how to retrieve a lost receipt. Without sufficient documentation, neither case can be settled; however, I'd advise both parties file their complaints and let the FBI determine who is at fault. Like I said, they investigate Internet fraud. Small claims does not. Bantering back and forth here hasn't accomplished much in regards to getting your money back.

Furthermore, anyone with experience in these types of cases doesn't take the lawyer/police card seriously. Lawyers do not waste their time with small claims and neither do police. FBI IC3 is the best course of action here for all of you, but remember, he who provides the best documentation wins.

I hope to see this resolved and the results posted, though be advised it does take some time.

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I see what you're saying, but I've lost the stubs to money orders quite a few times. Like ones I used to pay my rent after they switched companies out from under us so our payment methods changed and kid of screwed us. It is pretty easy to lose those little strips. But they should be able to go to the store they purchased it from to get the receipt and I believe they can find out if it was cashed as well. Or call western union themselves and see what they say.
 
This is a brand spankin new claim by him. A money order for $1050?!?! Lol. Why on earth if this was true why he would have said "I have them they are good". Let me guess Jay your going to explain what you got was good. Right??!!
And why didn't you mention this until just now. Also why won't you text me to stay on the record too??? The list of questions that I have are growing and growing.
 

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ElexisOrtiz said:
I see what you're saying, but I've lost the stubs to money orders quite a few times. Like ones I used to pay my rent after they switched companies out from under us so our payment methods changed and kid of screwed us. It is pretty easy to lose those little strips. But they should be able to go to the store they purchased it from to get the receipt and I believe they can find out if it was cashed as well. Or call western union themselves and see what they say.
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That's what I'm saying. You need an ID to send money and to receive money. Western Union can look this info up. I don't think the store they purchased from can, but the WU customer service line can locate lost receipts.

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Craig Wyatt said:
This is a brand spankin new claim by him. A money order for $1050?!?! Lol. Why on earth if this was true why he would have said "I have them they are good". Let me guess Jay your going to explain what you got was good. Right??!!
And why didn't you mention this until just now. Also why won't you text me to stay on the record too??? The list of questions that I have are growing and growing.
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If you would bother to watch the video he explains all that.

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Craig Wyatt said:
This is Jays day in court against me. Listen to his lawyers closing arguments for him.

http://youtu.be/clKi92j6eLE
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And you definitely know this is not allowed in the boi. Moderators have made it clear every time someone posts this crap, this is a business board not a Facebook boi group

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That comment was already posted in my original post. Do you want more? Just let me know and I'll start taking screen shots.
 
Craig Wyatt said:
That comment was already posted in my original post. Do you want more? Just let me know and I'll start taking screen shots.
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In the video it shows you asking him if he picked them up, it was 2:30 pm give or take a few minutes, AT THE HUB. He then says yes I picked them up they're good, most likely meaning they are ok I have them and will look at them when I get home, but you know this because you taped those boxes so tight he had to work hard to get into them.

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Craig Wyatt said:
That comment was already posted in my original post. Do you want more? Just let me know and I'll start taking screen shots.
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How about YOU post the entire thing from start to finish? I saw every text in that video and will know if you left any out.

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Craig Wyatt said:
Sorry I don't mean that post was already posted. I meant that screen shot.
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Honestly, if I were you close this thread. What he did is a FELONY! Call his local PD and FBI if you want your money back. This is going nowhere here. You will be suprised what they can do for you. Make the call.

What I have a hard time understanding is why he doesn't post pics of the sick animals or just ship them back and be done? That's the weirdest part. People get desperate and I think this husband and wife duo just hit rock bottom
 
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