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    Want to get rid of them? Simple. Just become a Contributor level member or above and they will be gone. -> Please click HERE."

    Is that too much for me to ask of you to keep this site running? Well, sorry about that. I too wish I could get everything for free. But alas.....

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    Google Adsense ad revenue for December, 2025 was just $30 over the cost of the lease for the server running this site. So, in effect, the money providing the incentive for me to continue running this site is coming SOLELY from the paid memberships and sponsorships here. Which honestly ain't much....

Reptster.com experience with show sponsorship not good

ToshaMc said:
The bottom line is that by throwing the little tantrum and demanding your stuff be removed from their site -- YOU broke your agreement -- whether you feel justified or not -- it makes you no better than what you've condemned David for doing. :yesnod: Tho the hypocrisy is amusing.
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That made absolutely NO sense to me.

The point of David's forum (given the business he's in) is more than likely to show/advertise his "satisfied" or simply "customers". Optiumally, his forum would be filled with his customers, who would in turn bring in other customers. It (imo) was to provide a place/sounding board for his customers to communicate or give suggestions, or just be there.

Having certain names on his site (some names carry more weight in the herping community) gave his site/business a "validity" (like a Seal of Approval). However, because David has done some things that are IMO down right unprofessional (ripping a few people off/not paying/not keeping his word, or giving notice that he is out of a deal/arrangement) it would be in the "customers'" right not to want to have their name associated with that site/business anymore. They are in effect, removing their "Seal of Approval."

That's how I see it, and I could be wrong.:shrug01:
 
homegrownherps said:
But...either way I will not, knowingly be associated w/ thieves.
So if he needs my name up there, so be it. But I will make certain I spread the word about RIPster at EVERY show I attend.
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If you are going to accuse someone of being a thief you need to present real proof -- this is the BOI - not high school -- I've yet to see any proof of thievery on his part. If I've missed it please point me to the post -- otherwise it is your opinion or assumption and should be stated as such.

That being said - you still broke your written and legally binding contract - if David felt that Kelly extorting additional monies from him then based on your believe of how things work then it would be justifiable for him to remove himself from their binding contract.
 
ToshaMc said:
If you are going to accuse someone of being a thief you need to present real proof -- this is the BOI - not high school -- I've yet to see any proof of thievery on his part. If I've missed it please point me to the post -- otherwise it is your opinion or assumption and should be stated as such.

That being said - you still broke your written and legally binding contract - if David felt that Kelly extorting additional monies from him then based on your believe of how things work then it would be justifiable for him to remove himself from their binding contract.
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Not quite the same thing, imo.

After you agree and services are rendered, you are obligated to pay (whether it's the full amount or the two parties in question reach a equitable agreement is up to them). What you CAN'T do is ignore the bill and pretend it's not there and try to justify not paying AFTER services are rendered (whether in whole or in part).
 
deborahbroadus said:
Not quite the same thing, imo.

After you agree and services are rendered, you are obligated to pay (whether it's the full amount or the two parties in question reach a equitable agreement is up to them). What you CAN'T do is ignore the bill and pretend it's not there and try to justify not paying AFTER services are rendered (whether in whole or in part).
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oops..forgot to add:

None of the people leaving David's site, owe him any obligation, as far as I know.
 
ToshaMc said:
That being said - you still broke your written and legally binding contract - if David felt that Kelly extorting additional monies from him then based on your believe of how things work then it would be justifiable for him to remove himself from their binding contract.
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This is not true. Jim ASKED David to let him out of the contract, and David agreed. It's all on the up and up.
 
1. In regards to the previous statement about pulling of name from site -- if it were sponsorship -- then fine (within the terms of the sponsorship agreement)-- all threads from forum -- no -- just because you sign up for a forum doesn't imply sponsorship or endorsement.

2. I still haven't seen proof 1 that David agreed to the $750 if I'm going to believe Kelly's word that he did I have to give equal believe to David that he thought their agreement was for $250 -- But thats just me - I try to be impartial until the proof says otherwise.
 
Tosha, he LIED and got caught lying. He said that Kelly submitted multiple PayPal requests...Kelly posted proof that no such PayPal requests were issued.

You still are willing to take him for his word? :eek:
 
TripleMoonsExotic said:
Tosha, he LIED and got caught lying. He said that Kelly submitted multiple PayPal requests...Kelly posted proof that no such PayPal requests were issued.

You still are willing to take him for his word? :eek:
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To each his own i suppose....

That is what the BOI is for. People to decide on their own. Ignore it, keep your own opinion and move on. All the facts are here :)

Besides, itll make yours, and everyone elses days better for it.
 
ToshaMc said:
1. In regards to the previous statement about pulling of name from site -- if it were sponsorship -- then fine (within the terms of the sponsorship agreement)-- all threads from forum -- no -- just because you sign up for a forum doesn't imply sponsorship or endorsement.

2. I still haven't seen proof 1 that David agreed to the $750 if I'm going to believe Kelly's word that he did I have to give equal believe to David that he thought their agreement was for $250 -- But thats just me - I try to be impartial until the proof says otherwise.
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It's not a contractual sponsorship..but having a name on a new site is a sponsorship of a sorts (damn can't think of the word for it).

Needing to see proof is a good way to be. However, sometimes it's not that easy (I wish it were). The facts are that the party in question posted showing that she requested a certain amount, and there is a post from David saying that he will send the money.

While I understand this is not verifiable proof..that's where common sense and adding come together (that's why we have Juries).

1. If the price was other than the OP stated, don't you agree that she was taking a BIG risk of ruining herself if she posted that the 750.00 was the amount agreed to? I mean seriously, she had no way of knowing that David didn't have emails proving that he agreed to a lesser amount.

2. David said he had emails to prove his position. He has yet to provide those emails (that makes him a liar...and I have a tendency not to believe people that lie (like this) and don't have a good reason for not showing the emails)

3. The Op has provided proof after proof to refute Davids claims (she pestered him, she sent bills..etc)

4. David apparently lied again when he said he didn't owe (another poster) any money..yet they showed proof that he had just paid them...he hasn't refuted that he owed them after this proof.

5. to me...the first things add up to a person that can't be trusted..but then while I am a bit naive in some areas..when it comes to human nature I am JADED as all get out, so I am still waiting to be proved wrong.
 
ToshaMc said:
I still haven't seen proof 1 that David agreed to the $750 if I'm going to believe Kelly's word that he did I have to give equal believe to David that he thought their agreement was for $250 -- But thats just me - I try to be impartial until the proof says otherwise.
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$750....$250.... whichever he agreed to is certainly inconclusive. What is not inconclusive is that he did agree to one of those amounts and didnt pay it. He happily accepted 2 months worth of advertising then decided he was not going to pay for it. That is stealing. That is being a thief.
 
Mooing Tricycle said:
To each his own i suppose....

That is what the BOI is for. People to decide on their own. Ignore it, keep your own opinion and move on. All the facts are here :)

Besides, itll make yours, and everyone elses days better for it.
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See therein lies the fundamental problem of the BOI -- people shouldn't state their opinions as if they are facts. It's fine to have your opinion and state them as such -- but the BOI should be based on facts not assumptions and popular opinion - lest it detracts from the credibility of the tool.

Looking at Paypal they do say that pay requests can be retracted and deleted from history at any time. So I guess I am back to square one.
 
ToshaMc said:
Can you not delete or retract a payment request?
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You can cancel it, but it still shows up on your account.

Nice try though. :thumbsup:
 

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shrap said:
$750....$250.... whichever he agreed to is certainly inconclusive. What is not inconclusive is that he did agree to one of those amounts and didnt pay it. He happily accepted 2 months worth of advertising then decided he was not going to pay for it. That is stealing. That is being a thief.
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That is not opinion. That is FACT.
 
ToshaMc said:
Looking at Paypal they do say that pay requests can be retracted and deleted from history at any time. So I guess I am back to square one.
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I am looking at my Pay Pal right now. I have both accepted and canceled requests showing up in my history. I sure dont see where that delete option is you are talking about.
 
ToshaMc said:
Not to split hairs but if she got the logo and did the banner at the end of August and this thread went up at the middle of September how is that two months? :shrug01:
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Start over on post one with an open mind.
 
shrap said:
$750....$250.... whichever he agreed to is certainly inconclusive. What is not inconclusive is that he did agree to one of those amounts and didnt pay it. He happily accepted 2 months worth of advertising then decided he was not going to pay for it. That is stealing. That is being a thief.
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Yep, thief of services.

He enjoyed the advertising but failed to pay for it.
 
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