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The amount was stated in two separate e-mails and David reply is bolded.
GottaLuvHerps
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Tosha,
Where and when did I breach my end of the contract? I did all of the advertising I said I would, and was never given payment of ANYTHING, much less the agreed upon amount of $750. IF Mr. Young had an issue with the email he says he didn't fully read when saying he was sending a check on 9/3, then why did he not call me or email me stating this?
Oh, that's right, according to him, he did. He provided that proof. I forgot.
Also, for your comment about US (Mr. Young and myself) not communicating well, you fail to realize that it was not ME that had an issue, it was Mr. Young that had the issue communicating. He did not return phone calls or emails. HE failed to communicate with me after the agreement was made. So it was not an issue with US not communicating well, it was an issue of HIM not communicating AT ALL. There is a big difference.
As far as proving a verbal contract, any court of law states they are legal. Why are you so gung-ho about this whole "no proof" situation when the ONLY one who has not provided proof of ANYTHING except lies has been Mr. Young?
1. He says he sent payment. Let's, for one second, forget how much the deal was worth. He said he sent something. I never got anything. Lie.
2. He says he sent emails to me stating he was backing out of the deal. He provided something easily faked and has never once made the effort to prove its validity. So, lie 2
3. He says I sent him multiple PayPal requests for money. This has been proven wrong. Lie 3
4. He said he never owed Repticon money for the shows. But then he sent them money just a few days ago to settle that debt. Lie 4
5. He told Mr. Mike Sanders that he would be sending payment for a snake. Then he asked him to hold the snake because he did not have the funds because of a show tour he was on. This was at the SAME TIME he was telling me he was going to pay me, which meant he was saying he had the money he owed me. So, lie 5.
How many more lies do you need Tosha? What is it that is going to make you see that he obviously had a history before doing this to me, and that he just continued the pattern? As I said to Seamus (I believe), what do you want from me, BLOOD?
How about this, you tell me what you need as more proof, and I will provide it. I CANNOT provide an email before the logo was sent with an agreed upon amount, because there is none, it was a verbal thing. So you tell me what it is going to take, and if I have it, I will post it.
Laura Fopiano
B&L Exotix
Tosha, please don't misunderstand me, but what do you have to gain by defending david and repster?
Did you take the time to read this thread in it's entirety? What part of this do you not understand?
The second post in this thread contains all of the emails. Kelly has answered every question posed to her in a timely fashion and provided every bit of imformation that she can.
Did you take the time to read this thread in it's entirety? What part of this do you not understand?
The second post in this thread contains all of the emails. Kelly has answered every question posed to her in a timely fashion and provided every bit of imformation that she can.
Mooing Tricycle
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Tosha, you keep saying " i want to see davids side"
Why dont you call him yourself. You cant play the devils advocate and NOT contact both parties as well. otherwise, you cant really play both sides.
Ask for the emails, Look at the Full headers yourself. * it isnt hard to learn how to understand them...*
If you WANT so much proof that david flat out lied, and arent willing to belive the emails and information posted on the BOI, ASK for that evidence yourself!!! Kelly is MORE than willing to share it!
Call david first though, and get his side of the story. Write it down.... and then compare and contrast. Compare it with what he has told others too.
I think youll find your stance is completely unfounded in these circumstances.
Why dont you call him yourself. You cant play the devils advocate and NOT contact both parties as well. otherwise, you cant really play both sides.
Ask for the emails, Look at the Full headers yourself. * it isnt hard to learn how to understand them...*
If you WANT so much proof that david flat out lied, and arent willing to belive the emails and information posted on the BOI, ASK for that evidence yourself!!! Kelly is MORE than willing to share it!
Call david first though, and get his side of the story. Write it down.... and then compare and contrast. Compare it with what he has told others too.
I think youll find your stance is completely unfounded in these circumstances.
Mooing Tricycle
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Not that I doubt Kelly's version of the events, but the old adage "a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush" seems to be apropos. "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" shouldn't be enough if you don't know and trust the person that you are dealing with. This agreement is only worth the paper that it was written on. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned also seems to apply here. This is a ripe opportunity to utilize cliches!
BryonsBoas
BnL Exotix
Try that with someone who can't comprehend what they are reading.
Terry tried popping smoke.
Allen tried popping smoke.
Dslurp tried popping smoke
You are trying to pop smoke.
Call it what you want but I call it " You're full of crap!". You've been tossing questions out that repeatedly try to paint Kelly in a shadier light yet I don't see you breaking a sweat wanting to hear or read David's side. Why are so focused on Kelly proving anymore than she has yet David gets to tip toe through the tulips. If you really want anyone to believe that both sides are being viewed objectively , try asking both sides questions.
Your argument is one sided , admit it , it'll make you feel better.
Will any you point out who registered the one member 130 times? Having 1 member listed 130 times just adds more questions to how reputable Reptster truly is. As it stands , the owner has not paid one promoter , slow paid another , still questions about refunds on over charged packages and it appears that Reptster is now adding fake members to beef up their rep.
Out of curiosity , why are you here instead of David defending Reptster? Are you the PR guy or is the boss scared to bring his dog to the hunt? For the life of me I can't see why an owner of a company that has been tossed in a questionable would tuck tail and not defend himself or his company.
BryonsBoas
BnL Exotix
You have got to be kidding. The answers to your questions were posted in this thread days ago.
jayefbe
New member
Seriously, if you're too freaking lazy to read the thread, ask Kelly to send you the e-mails. She will do it, and you will find that the XXX's all say $750 in the original e-mails. Kelly has explained this ad infinitum.
MiIguanaLvr
The Deaf Dog Trainer
Are you joking? This has been asked and answered several times and I doubt asking it yet again is going to get you a different answer.
If you are going to be so obviously backing Repster, at least come up with new questions please because I am pretty sure everyone here is getting really tired of this.
Dennis Hultman
New member
MauiMoon said:
First question has been answered multiple times. You answered your second question with the very same quote from David's email.
He plainly stated in the email you quoted.
If you will note the first email that you quoted was dated
The second was Sept 3rd and she stated
He didn't deny he was hard to get a hold of. He apologized and stated the check is going out. Which is a reply to the email that showed the $750 amount.
How many other people stated David wouldn't return emails and phone calls?
Besides Kelly and David Himself.
ForkedTung
Serpent Mound Monk
My Experience
I recently shipped a snake using Repster because I wanted to see how their service worked so I could pass the savings on to my customers( Note I was already FedEx Certified to ship Live Harmless Reptiles before I had ever heard of Repster). I processed it through Repster, I packed it, and labelled it according to the Lacy Act ( quantity,scientific name, common name)and then dropped it off at a local FedEx World Service Center, no problem...so far.... When I got home there was a message that they don't ship live reptiles from FedEx and I can come pick it up. Well they had already closed by that time so I was unable to do this. I called everyone at FedEx that night that would answer the phone and got pretty much the same story even though I told them I had 3 documents from 3 seperate divisions of FedEx stating that I WAS approved, I left many messages. I then went to Repster and found a forum with a discussion about practically the same issue. David Young had just personally replied to an earlier post, so I posted to get his attention
I also sent him a PM, but for some reason it is missing from my account ( does anyone know if PM's are retrievable)Another member gave me his phone # so I then posted this
Well, I called David Young and I explained the situation and he said he would try to talk to his rep. that night, but understandably probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of him due to the late hour. He told me to call him the next morning. Guess who I called first the next morning? I got David Young's voicemail and I explained again who I was and what was going on, then I left him both of my phone numbers. I waited an hour or so and nothing, meanwhile the local FedEx rep. calls and asks when I'm going to come pick up the BP? So I forward her one of the email documents FROM FedEx mind you detailing my certification to ship Live Harmeless Reptiles, she says she'll check up on it. Just as I'm about to leave to go pick up the BP, Kathleen Terzinski Manager Admin. for Bruce Clemmons, FedEx Live Animal Desk Assistant, Chicago (773)601-5801( whom was returning one of my messages from the previous night) calls and wants to know what's going on. I tell her and she agrees, Yes she has a record of my certification and I can ship. She hangs up, calls back and says the BP is now loaded and ready to ship.
Well the BP shipped and everything turned out OK, thanks-be ONLY to myself to resove this issue.
[ I don't think the following is heresay but if so one of the mods can feel free to delete it]
Kathleen also goes on to tell me that FedEx is not in any partnership with Repster, that for them to be advertising this as so is illegal and that their legal division is looking into this.
Now coming from the completely dysfunctional FedEX people, especially when it comes to shipping reptiles, I took this with a very large grain of salt, but Kathleen was QUITE adamant about this???
Anyway to this day David Young has provided NO phone calls, emails etc... absolutely NO followup to my problem using Repster to ship. As far as he knows my BP is still sitting there rotting away.
I recently shipped a snake using Repster because I wanted to see how their service worked so I could pass the savings on to my customers( Note I was already FedEx Certified to ship Live Harmless Reptiles before I had ever heard of Repster). I processed it through Repster, I packed it, and labelled it according to the Lacy Act ( quantity,scientific name, common name)and then dropped it off at a local FedEx World Service Center, no problem...so far.... When I got home there was a message that they don't ship live reptiles from FedEx and I can come pick it up. Well they had already closed by that time so I was unable to do this. I called everyone at FedEx that night that would answer the phone and got pretty much the same story even though I told them I had 3 documents from 3 seperate divisions of FedEx stating that I WAS approved, I left many messages. I then went to Repster and found a forum with a discussion about practically the same issue. David Young had just personally replied to an earlier post, so I posted to get his attention
I also sent him a PM, but for some reason it is missing from my account ( does anyone know if PM's are retrievable)Another member gave me his phone # so I then posted this
( notice how I joined on Dec. 31, 1969???, I must have been a very busy newborn, heh, heh)
Well, I called David Young and I explained the situation and he said he would try to talk to his rep. that night, but understandably probably wouldn't be able to get ahold of him due to the late hour. He told me to call him the next morning. Guess who I called first the next morning? I got David Young's voicemail and I explained again who I was and what was going on, then I left him both of my phone numbers. I waited an hour or so and nothing, meanwhile the local FedEx rep. calls and asks when I'm going to come pick up the BP? So I forward her one of the email documents FROM FedEx mind you detailing my certification to ship Live Harmeless Reptiles, she says she'll check up on it. Just as I'm about to leave to go pick up the BP, Kathleen Terzinski Manager Admin. for Bruce Clemmons, FedEx Live Animal Desk Assistant, Chicago (773)601-5801( whom was returning one of my messages from the previous night) calls and wants to know what's going on. I tell her and she agrees, Yes she has a record of my certification and I can ship. She hangs up, calls back and says the BP is now loaded and ready to ship.
Well the BP shipped and everything turned out OK, thanks-be ONLY to myself to resove this issue.
[ I don't think the following is heresay but if so one of the mods can feel free to delete it]
Kathleen also goes on to tell me that FedEx is not in any partnership with Repster, that for them to be advertising this as so is illegal and that their legal division is looking into this.
Now coming from the completely dysfunctional FedEX people, especially when it comes to shipping reptiles, I took this with a very large grain of salt, but Kathleen was QUITE adamant about this???
Anyway to this day David Young has provided NO phone calls, emails etc... absolutely NO followup to my problem using Repster to ship. As far as he knows my BP is still sitting there rotting away.
jayefbe
New member
so, what exactly does reptster do?
Rextiles
There is no spork.
In the beginning when I first heard about and joined Reptster, they were starting out as just another online forum community. Several months or so after the initial introduction of the forum was the idea of this whole Fedex shipping thing mentioned. Perhaps this was their whole plan all along, I would be surprised otherwise.
But in regards to their whole shipping scheme, to answer your question which I am sure it is in this regard, their shipping operations are to entail that you receive discounts on shipping materials including shipping prices and supposedly (but not apparently by some) an easier method of being able to qualify and ship through Fedex (as per my understanding).
Obviously, ForkedTongues allegations show some serious flaws inherent in the system amongst his alleged hearsay about other(s) having similar issues with Fedex.
I also find it very fascinating about this Administrator Kathleen Terzinski allegedly mentioning that Reptster has no partnership with Fedex and that there might be legal ramifications if indeed this is true. It will be very very interesting to see if these alleged allegations are true or not.
And let's hypothetically say that Repster does nothave any legally binding partnership with Fedex? What does that mean to Reptsters clientele who frequently use the system and how will it affect their personal/private information stored on Reptsters system should legal action be taken? Again, all hypotheticals based on this allegation being true
For David to claim that calling Reptsters hotline is the quickest and easiest way to get into contact with him or his staff about their clienteles problems, then how is it that the complaints about problems about being able to contact them keep stacking up? I think this only goes to further strengthen Kelly's allegations about her problems with contacting David.
To Kelly:
It would seem to me that your ordeal with David has run into a stalemate of sorts. If we should consider that at this point David will not contact you nor try to at least remedy the situation with at least some money to cover your out of pocket costs, what would be your next course of action to regain any type of satisfaction from all of this unpleasantness? Obviously, bringing up these issues on the BOI only carries so far. I think that you've stated your case with the utmost sincerity and honesty unlike David who has shown us his true colors here with his arrogant deception and lies. I'm just left wondering what recourse you have, if any, and if it would even be worth trying to fight for any monies thus owed. If anything, at least you're tactful handling of this situation has exposed another schemer. Thank you for this!
Did they ever say they were in partnership with FedEx or was that just an assumption?
If there isn't an agreement between Reptster and FedEx then there is a real problem. I know with my certification to ship it is prohibited for me to allow a 3rd party to ship using my account. For instance, if I have a friend in FL that wants to send me a snake and isn't certified, I can't use my account for him to do so. I would suspect, and this is pure speculation, that the "agreement" between Reptster and FedEx is more likely an agreement between David Young and his sales rep who has zero power to make such agreements. The sales rep just wants to make money and what better way than having an account like Reptster shipping hundreds of packages per week, even if it violates the certification to ship live reptiles. I would love to see confirmation of the agreement between FedEx and Reptster but I wouldn't hold my breath.
JudyC
New member
According to what David has said to me in conversations with him, Reptster was never "about" the forums. In fact, my very first encounter wtih David was when he wrote to me at BP.net wanting to partner Reptster with us and let US be the forums that represented his new shipping program along with some other record-keeping and business software he was developing.
Since I'd never heard of him at that time and had no idea what he was talking about, I didn't give any of it much thought. Much later, the Reptster site finally sprang up and they were making much about this new shipping program with FedEx that would eventually come online. Once I got to know David, he told me that he never did want to have or run forums himself, which is why he wanted to use BP.net to work that side of things for him....but we didn't. And all the folks associated with Reptster were insisting that he set up some forums for everyone to participate in.....so he did.
Anyhow....not sure how any of this is all that relevant, but I thought I'd confirm your statement that he was planning the whole shipping thing well before there were any forums, even though the forums themselves "went live" first.
The allegation that David does not have a real contract with FedEx is deeply disturbing and extremely serious. I hope we see more follow-up aliong those lines and hopefully see some proof from David that this is, indeed, a legitmate operation he has going.
homegrownherps
New member
I am also FedEx certified and granted shipping FedEx does not on occasion go without mishaps it's going to happen no matter who you are. Just out of curiosity have you had similar problems prior to using Reptster and if so how did you go about taking care of it? I mean to say, did you follow the same procedure with Reptster that you did when using your own account (thinking maybe the Reptster account number brought up a red flag as opposed to yours)?
Having had to deal with some issues on occasion I know what it is like to deal with FedEx Personnel. Just thinking you would have to deal with a middle man like David when an issue arises instead of directly with FedEx Representatives seems like it would just add to the headache. I know I would be able to argue my case stronger than someone else would.