Inquiry tandrreptiles good or bad?

[tadpole]

Hi Chuck,

Sorry, I knew he had Arlen listed on here.. I just meant I didn't know where he came up with that name since it isn't his real name.

 

[geckos70]

I just wanted to post an update
Ryan has offered to ship the cactus I ordered plus some overage out tomorrow.

Re: cactus pads‏
From: Ryan Steward ([email protected])
Sent: Sat 1/31/09 4:05 PM
To: Michael Hance ([email protected])

k got it I will send out the order monday. I will email you asap when it goes out. Trust me you will be very,very,very with your order. And once you know i shipped it, or once you receive it, if you could please just post that you were paid back. That post basically ruined my name. I am not a scammer, scum bag, or whatever else everyone wrote. My father died, and I had other priorities. So if you could please just do that for me whenever. That would be great, I am not a bad guy. You can ask alot of people, everyone orders cactus from me on those forums. I had customers emailing saying they couldnt beleive the things people were saying about me on that post. Because they know me ad they know my business. Thanks, Ryan.

So I will keep everyone informed as to how this plays out.

Thanks
Michael

 

[bossboas]

The problem with Ryan is he doesn't think he's done anything wrong. He thinks it's perfectly honest to take a customer's money and spend it on his own things as if it was his money. As long as he promises to pay it back it's ok and the customer is being unreasonable for wanting it back. And he's not even upfront about the whole thing. He won't respond to emails about the order you paid for that was never shipped or answer his phone until you publicly post something negative(but true) about him. And then when he realizes his paypal account is compromised he finally starts talking about paying the money back. Whether he does or not is another thing. He still owes me a chunk of money.

 

[Jonathan P]

(Don't read into this reply that I am saying that anyone is mistaken or that I am accusing anyone of anything!)

I think it's unfortunate the way things have transpired.

I had a very good experience with Ryan. He and I corresponded for several days about my baby sulcata and his cactus. I received my order very fast.

I can't speak to his business acumen; however I can tell you that I was very pleased with the entire experience.

 

[critical bill]

I think it's unfortunate the way things have transpired.

Unfortunate? What a nice way to put it. Like..its just some sort of bad luck.

What transpired is simple. Ryan knows how to talk people out of their money and Ryan took peoples money and he them over!

Ryan is a thief.

 

[tandrreptiles]

Bill no one is asking for your opinion and its not needed, people paid for products, my father died, I had to leave town. I had no computer to use and was obviously unable to send out there orders. So now I am paid everyone back. Thieves take money and keep it.

What would you do if your father passed leave his death bed to go send out some orders. I had to do what I had to do. Now I am giving them there money right back.

Dot judge someone when you know nothing about them.

 

[critical bill]

Bill no one is asking for your opinion and its not needed, people paid for products, my father died, I had to leave town. I had no computer to use and was obviously unable to send out there orders. So now I am paid everyone back. Thieves take money and keep it.

What would you do if your father passed leave his death bed to go send out some orders. I had to do what I had to do. Now I am giving them there money right back.

Dot judge someone when you know nothing about them.

What happened to your co-worker? Why couldn't he contact the customers in your absence and explain what the situation was?

What would I do in the event my father was terminally ill and near death?

I would have been preparing and had my business affairs in order - instructions left for my "co-workers" on how to proceed in my absence - just in case I needed to head out of town on a moments notice.

The stuff any responsible person would think about and prepare for....except maybe for a dumbass conman like you obviously.

 

[tandrreptiles]

How am I a conman I am sending or sent everyone there orders and there money back. My father passed unexpectedly so I had to fly out the next day. My co-worker Tony is my buddy who works on breeding projects with me. He doesnt do orders, he doesnt send out orders. I do it all personally. Tony looks after and watches all the breeding projects. Mainly the turtles. I am not going to sit here and argue I clearly know I made a mistake and now I am making up for it.

 

[critical bill]

My co-worker Tony is my buddy who works on breeding projects with me. He doesnt do orders, he doesnt send out orders. I do it all personally.

Really? So then you lied to this customer when you wrote the following:

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Re: cactus pads‏
From: Ryan Steward ([email protected])
Sent: Fri 1/09/09 9:35 PM
To: Michael Hance ([email protected])

Hi your cactus pads were shipped earlier this week, and was returned on account of my co-worker wrote your shipping information incorrectly. I am very sorry for the inconvenience, we have been up to our necks in work, and these accidents do happen from time to time.
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It would seem apparent by the post above that your co-worker does have something to with shipping orders -or- he doesn't and you just use him as the excuse for your own screw ups. Which is it? Does he just fill out shipping labels that you don't bother double checking for errors?

Look, don't get upset with me because you're getting caught in your own lies. This is your game, not mine. I just know how to play my side better than you. Just stop lying and coming up lame excuses. Be responsible and accountable and try the truth.

Now try to come up with another excuse to get of what I posted above. Go ahead, give it some time and come up with another good lie.

Whats up with the customer that you demanded he cancel his paypal complaint in order to unfreeze your account so he could get a refund?

There is a decent and honest way to accomplish that. Deposit the funds in your bank account and contact paypal to let them know its available to be disbursed for the refunds.

Dont tell me you are such a up that you need your account unfrozen to continue accepting payments so that guy can get paid back? You have no savings whatsoever to deposit to your bank account so the refunds can be processed? This is your livelihood? Living day to day selling and scamming customers for cactus pads?

You suck pal!!! I think your father died of depression over the son he wished he had.

If your co-worker was smart he'd separate himself from you mighty fast before his reputation starts taking a hit.

 

[tandrreptiles]

Now your going to talk about my father who just passed away! Your fucked up. Im not going to do your gay little smile face censor signs. Is that what you look like the cracked out sham wow guy who sells towls from germany. You go in everyones post and make your rude little comments that have nothing to do with you. Your a loser who sits at the computer and criticizes everyone. Get a life.

 

[tandrreptiles]

I am done arguing about it. I shouldnt have made a comment about you. But you are not even involved in this even in the slightest way. And your the only one on here talking about it. Im done, I apologize for being rude. I admit I was wrong for what I did. I had a lot going on. Everyone is paid back now. I am done with this.

 

[critical bill]

Your fucked up.

Yes, yes I am.

But the truth really hurts, don't it?

You didn't answer my question about your co-worker shipping out orders.

Did you run out of lies?

 

[tadpole]

Wow! This discussion has gone down hill fast.....

I just wanted to post to let everyone know Ryan *did* fully refund our money. We received it back in our Paypal acct. a few days ago. Sorry I didn't post sooner but my own business & customers have kept me very busy as this is one of our busiest seasons.

Ryan~ I'm truly sorry about your father & I appreciate you doing the right thing & refunding the money. I hope that this type of situation *never* happens again & hopefully all of your satisfied customers will post on here as well too.

I hope everyone else got their refunds and/or products as well.

 

[geckos70]

I received my cactus this week with some overage. My condolences about your father Ryan. I hope you take care of the other people who have sent you money and never end up in a mix up like this again.

Michael

 

[bossboas]

Stay away from TandR Reptiles

Ryan still owes me $700. I started to believe his story about his Dad with terminal cancer but it seems I've just been played again. Ryan is a very good salesman/storyteller so BEWARE! Whatever he tells you, he told me the same thing and I got screwed. Bottom line, there's lots of reputable reptile dealers out there. You don't need to donate your money to Ryan at TandR Reptiles.

 

[bossboas]

Yes, yes I am.

But the truth really hurts, don't it?

You didn't answer my question about your co-worker shipping out orders.

Did you run out of lies?

I thought you were a bit harsh at first but you are right. He is definitely a pathological liar. I can't believe he ran out of lies though, there has to be more to come.

 

[critical bill]

I thought you were a bit harsh at first but you are right. He is definitely a pathological liar. I can't believe he ran out of lies though, there has to be more to come.

I know what you're saying, its just that I've seen this all before.

Sorry to see this happen to you and I really wish I could do more. I've been told my presence on this thread isn't appreciated and should I persist along the same lines that my time here as a member will be cut short.

My hands are tied.

The bad guy wins this round.

Best of luck.

 

[Cat_72]

Everyone is paid back now. I am done with this.

Apparently NOT.

Ryan still owes me $700.

So...how 'bout that co-worker who doesn't deal with the shipping using the wrong shipping address?

 

[bossboas]

Ryan has sent me a bank check which hasn't arrived but I have reason to believe it will. This should clear his debt with me.

 

[azreptileshow]

tandrreptiles

I see tandrreptiles posting again. Does this mean everyone has paid paid off?
Brian Kimball