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Am I the only one who gets pissed off when people don't bother to use correct grammar/spelling/etc. when they're trying to sell their animals? I mean, for god's sake. Take some pride in them!

Just something that really bugs me, I guess.
 
This is something that has bugged me too. Mostly with the classified ads, but a lot of posts in the discussion forums are painful to read as well.

When what you write is not spelled properly or is not grammatically accurate, it suggests several problems including the following:

1) You're not very educated and thus have no business commenting on the topic.
2) You don't care enough about what you're talking about to even spell or phrase it right.
3) You don't care if or how what you are saying is received accurately.
4) You are under the illusion that errors in grammar and spelling are "charming." They're not.
5) If this is your attitude with basic communication, what is your attitude with everything else?

As for ESL speakers- That is different. I am accustomed to reading/talking with people who may be highly educated but struggle with English. I can differentiate between those posts and would never criticize those people. They still use capitals at the beginning of sentences. The errors are usually consistent, medical terms are usually spelled correctly, and the thoughts formulated are intelligent.
 
Many ESLs are not highly educated. Many people in general are not well educated. Poverty can make for some difficult choices in life.
This is not to say that poor people can't get an education, often they struggle and soar; but some poor do not get the privilege of attending school in some countries.

If people know but don't care, that is irritating. If they want to contribute, but don't have the background to contribute in the style we are accustomed to because of genuinely pressing needs, I myself would not put them down.

In many places in the world, and in some places in America, basic education is a privilege that some do not have.
 
lucille said:
Many ESLs are not highly educated. Many people in general are not well educated. Poverty can make for some difficult choices in life.
This is not to say that poor people can't get an education, often they struggle and soar; but some poor do not get the privilege of attending school in some countries.

If people know but don't care, that is irritating. If they want to contribute, but don't have the background to contribute in the style we are accustomed to because of genuinely pressing needs, I myself would not put them down.

In many places in the world, and in some places in America, basic education is a privilege that some do not have.
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I would think that, although it may not always be the case, most people who are able to post on a forum have the education to spell and use basic grammar.
 
mckyle said:
Am I the only one who gets pissed off when people don't bother to use correct grammar/spelling/etc. when they're trying to sell their animals? I mean, for god's sake. Take some pride in them!

Just something that really bugs me, I guess.
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How about the people who have animals for sell versus for sale?
 
This bothers me, too, and not just because I'm a Grammar Nazi.

I shudder at the pasted e-mails in the BOI. Do people (both buyers and sellers) write e-mails like that to each other? I mean, how is someone supposed to take you seriously if you can't even capitalize the beginnings of sentences, the personal "I," or use punctuation? Since when was a grade-school education so hard to get?

I know a lot of people whine about the people who point out grammatical errors, and while I agree that nitpicking can get annoying, most of the time it's about understanding what in the world someone is saying. Maybe other people who don't know proper grammar can understand your sentences, but if I have to read it several times to get the meaning, then forget it. If you can't spend the effort to write an understandable sentence, then I'm not going to spend the effort to try to figure it out. :p

That's just how I feel about it....
 
mckyle said:
Am I the only one who gets pissed off when people don't bother to use correct grammar/spelling/etc. when they're trying to sell their animals? I mean, for god's sake. Take some pride in them!

Just something that really bugs me, I guess.
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"Just something that really bugs me, I guess." is a sentence fragment. :D


Sorry, I'm a jerk. I'm a lovable jerk though, right?
 
DAND said:
I was unaware there were any of you humans who could see me in my true form. :rolleyes:
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I seen Men in Black. I know an interstellar cockroach when I see one. :)
 
I get tired of people complaining about the spelling and grammar in the posts. If I can't figure out what the person is attempting to say then that's a problem but I really don't care if they use; they're, their or there, as long as I get what they mean. Besides we all make mistakes.

When what you write is not spelled properly(, )or is not grammatically accurate, it suggests several problems including the following:

1) You're not very educated and thus have no business commenting on the topic.
2) You don't care enough about what you're talking about to even spell(,)or phrase(,)it right (correctly).
3) You don't care if, (or how ?) , what you are saying is received accurately. Actually I'm not really sure what this one meant.
4) You are under the illusion that errors in grammar and spelling are "charming." They're not.
5) If this is your attitude with basic communication, what is your attitude with everything else?

As for ESL speakers- That is different. I am accustomed to reading/talking with people who may be highly educated but struggle with English. I can differentiate between those posts and would never criticize those people. They still use capitals at the beginning of sentences. The errors are usually consistent, medical terms are usually spelled correctly, and the thoughts formulated are intelligent.
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Not trying to pick on anyone as I make more than my share of errors.
 
kmurphy said:
I get tired of people complaining about the spelling and grammar in the posts. If I can't figure out what the person is attempting to say then that's a problem but I really don't care if they use; they're, their or there, as long as I get what they mean. Besides we all make mistakes.



Not trying to pick on anyone as I make more than my share of errors.
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Yeah I had a "nice" reply for this person myself, Kevin. But decided they were too shallow and small minded to even bother with.
 
There's a big difference between typos/misused words and what (I think) people are referring to here. I'm not gonna get on someone's case for misusing homophones (though they should've learned that in 3rd grade). But chronic lack of punctuation, capital letters where needed, text speak, etc. is just lazy and makes trying to understand posts nearly impossible.
 
R. Eventide said:
There's a big difference between typos/misused words and what (I think) people are referring to here. I'm not gonna get on someone's case for misusing homophones (though they should've learned that in 3rd grade). But chronic lack of punctuation, capital letters where needed, text speak, etc. is just lazy and makes trying to understand posts nearly impossible.
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I wont argue that at all. I wont even bother reading a post if it is just one long run on sentence with no capitalization and little to no punctuation. Or if it is a bunch of incoherent text gibberish. I am trying to read, not interpret.

As far as a misspelled word or improper grammar here and there..... people really need to get over themselves. I know I misspell things and break every rule of written English there is, but I highly doubt anyone has any problems understanding what I am trying to convey.

So yes, I understand both sides here. I just feel some folks are entirely too anal retentive about it though.
 
Hi guys I misspell from time to time (too), haha.Now lets get real here lets not forget about mentally challenged people they cannot help that they misspell a word or two,I only say this because I have a mentally challenged 18 year old son and I would hate to think that he should not use a platform like this because he does not spell properly.I would like to stick up for the lower Income people who may not have had a proper Education or the social up bringing that some of us may have.Well its kind of like this are you smarter than this guy becuase he can not spell Mississippi but can fix your Damm car or plumbing in your house I dont think so do you really ,just give people a little slack sometimes and just listen to what they are saying and not spelling.That is just my opinion,Thank you the Tinman
 
tinmantribe5 said:
Hi guys I misspell from time to time (too), haha.Now lets get real here lets not forget about mentally challenged people they cannot help that they misspell a word or two,I only say this because I have a mentally challenged 18 year old son and I would hate to think that he should not use a platform like this because he does not spell properly.I would like to stick up for the lower Income people who may not have had a proper Education or the social up bringing that some of us may have.Well its kind of like this are you smarter than this guy becuase he can not spell Mississippi but can fix your Damm car or plumbing in your house I dont think so do you really ,just give people a little slack sometimes and just listen to what they are saying and not spelling.That is just my opinion,Thank you the Tinman
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Shawn, I don't think anyone has a problem with a few typos here and there - we're mainly talking about blatant disregard for using proper English at all.
 
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