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Good Guy Allen Belcher / Big Daddy's Wholesale

rubinwg said:
Well DM1975,

If you read everything in this thread that everyone else has read, you may come to the conclusion that people have not said bad things about Allen as a person. Like I said I have talked with him twice back in 2007 and 2008 and he came off as a nice courteous person. The only childish things I have read and would like to read are coming from the Allen has gotten his act together fan club. And everyone else is just reminding the others here on the BOI on how Allen got this reputation. Again, you wrote the thread and now you want to insult the people writing posts that are against what you believe. Again, enjoy your new snake, I am sure it is very pretty and you enjoy it for years to come.

Bill R.
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That is a very backward way of looking at this. I posted this just to let people know how MY experience with him was, not how your experience, or the others have been. It is a free country yes, and you can post what ever you want, but this has been nothing more than blood in the water for the sharks, which I find very childish. Their are plenty of bad posts about him on here, and most revolve around a few individuals and some pictures of a couple of dirty cages and accusations of IBD. Most all of this is anecdotal at best, but the people who have been to his facility and have said it is ran great are completely ignored or shunned. Cages get dirty, it happens. Anyone that has ever dealt with a lot of snakes should know that. I have cleaned cages one day and the next morning had them smeared with crap from top to bottom over night, it happens.

The worst thing about this is that the moderators seem to support the bashing and insult those who have anything good to say. To me this is childish and useless in a forum where people are supposed to be giving reports on how their transactions with others have been. The excuse that people are just wanting to give all the facts is a useless excuse. Their is a search feature on here where you can find out all the info you want, which none of it has to do with MY experience with him.
 
DM1975 said:
The worst thing about this is that the moderators seem to support the bashing and insult those who have anything good to say.
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Show me where a moderator has insulted those that have spoken well of Allen.
 
DM1975 said:
That is a very backward way of looking at this. I posted this just to let people know how MY experience with him was, not how your experience, or the others have been. It is a free country yes, and you can post what ever you want, but this has been nothing more than blood in the water for the sharks, which I find very childish. Their are plenty of bad posts about him on here
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Yes you did report your transaction and most wished you well with it.

You can expect good and bad here when you start a thread on anyone. thats the way it works. yes there are plenty of bad posts about allen...you got that right!

So Bunky....your not in Kansas anymore.

C'est la vie. :)
 
hhmoore said:
Show me where a moderator has insulted those that have spoken well of Allen.
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Posted by DAND
Sorry bub, but just because you had a good transaction and started this thread does not mean you can determine what others can or cannot post. Wish in one hand and crap in the other and Jason can determine which fills first.
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I see it says ROOM MONITOR under his name, maybe that is not a moderator, I am not sure. If not then I apologize for that statement, but if it is an affiliated position here then I stand by it.
 
DM1975 said:
Posted by DAND


I see it says ROOM MONITOR under his name, maybe that is not a moderator, I am not sure. If not then I apologize for that statement, but if it is an affiliated position here then I stand by it.
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That title was given to me by some idiot and I put it there because it was rather funny. It seems to have confused a few idiots since. Let me clarify for those who are confused, I am not a moderator.
 
DAND said:
That title was given to me by some idiot and I put it there because it was rather funny. It seems to have confused a few idiots since. Let me clarify for those who are confused, I am not a moderator.
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So, this place condones calling other members idiots?
 
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Ed Clark said:
No not upset at all, don't think its wrong him leaving this business or the way he words his ads, he is selling off all his breeders and you can smell the desperation in his advertising. he is finished in the reptile business for sure. anyone spending money with him on high end snakes will find him gone when they start having problems with what they have purchased.
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Ed, I am curious as to your statement listed above, You seem pretty certain that Allen is getting out of the reptile business. Did Allen tell you that himself the first time you actually met him, when he came over to your house?:ack2: You mention that he is selling off all his breeders- His breeder add has (3) breeder males listed: Cinny, Spider & Yellowbelly. I don't know about you, but I would consider those particular snakes as un-needed surplus. Sure they would have been great to have as breeders (3-4) years ago. I honestly think he has just a couple better replacements that are of size to actually produce some slightly better crosses by now. I just got off the phone with Allen. There are no plans for him to get out of the business, not now or anytime in the near future. This information does not effect me, but it may effect someones decision on purchasing an animal from him if they have "heard" he is getting out of the business. I only bring this up because of the pictures you have shared and stated to be true photos of how he keeps his animals. Now, I have just proved you have made a ridiculous false statement about Allen Belcher. People tend to loose credibility when they are caught in a Lie. :shootfoot
 
I believe that I read that he was getting out of the business (for the most part) in one of his own listings.

I also believe that Mr. Daddy said that he was getting into a new venture with the money he raised from getting out of the snake business. He said he would still be involved with snakes but not at the level he currently is.

Wow--I sound like a Daddy groupie just like Get Sum, huh?
 
Get Sum said:
Ed, I am curious as to your statement listed above, You seem pretty certain that Allen is getting out of the reptile business.


I only bring this up because of the pictures you have shared and stated to be true photos of how he keeps his animals. Now, I have just proved you have made a ridiculous false statement about Allen Belcher. People tend to loose credibility when they are caught in a Lie. :shootfoot
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allen has posted it on his ads many times he is finished with the snake business.

The pictures were taken by Bryon Adzic when he worked for allen in his filthy breeding operation. I believe Bryon to be an honest and trust worthy person and I completely believe him or I would not use his pics. so no you have proven nothing other than you are a fool that has been duped by allen belcher.
 
DM1975 said:
So, this place condones calling other members idiots?
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He has received an infraction for it. Now moving on to you... I highly suggest you stop poking the bear with your insinuations about this site and the way it is operated. Just as I don't take kindly to someone coming into my house and spitting in my face, my patience for it here is thin as well.

That being said, if you guys want to keep up with your petty little off-topic back and forth, then this is not the place to do it. Either take it off site or drop it altogether.
 
Get Sum said:
Ed, I am curious as to your statement listed above, You seem pretty certain that Allen is getting out of the reptile business.....There are no plans for him to get out of the business, not now or anytime in the near future..... Now, I have just proved you have made a ridiculous false statement about Allen Belcher. People tend to loose credibility when they are caught in a Lie. :shootfoot
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FWIW, Allen has been posting going out of business type sales for some time, and I believe he even made posts to that effect here at some point; so, by your own terms, he should be losing credibility at an alarming rate if he's now telling you that isn't happening.
 
DM1975 said:
First off, I have read all of the negative posts on here about him and I knew what I might be getting into, but I decided to try anyways
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This is what I cannot understand. Why someone would even consider dealing with someone with questionable and or troubled past deals? Why would someone even consider putting his or her hard earned money into the hands of someone like that? Why would anyone support someone like that either? To save a few bucks is the only answer I can and have seen. Gambling is what I would call it but for someone who wants to save a buck gambling doesn't sound like an intelligent thing to do. It may pay off once in a while but the law of averages is against you. Of course when it all goes wrong and it bites you in the ass you'll be back here whining that you got screwed. See you soon.....
 
Ed Clark said:
You can expect good and bad here when you start a thread on anyone. thats the way it works. yes there are plenty of bad posts about allen...you got that right!

So Bunky....your not in Kansas anymore.
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I'm so glad you feel that way booby.

Are you aware that you actually have more bad guy threads about YOU on the BOI than Allen does?

Yep, you have 6 and he has 5.

Now if that isn't just the damnedest case of the pot calling kettle black I really don't know what you could call it.

Cripes, bad guy threads on the BOI is like a contest between you two. And you both should be genuinely concerned about the numerous inquiries that have resulted in the loss of sales because you both take the same crummy approach to dealing with your problems. If I were you I'd be working on repairing my own damned image before pointing my finger at Allen Belcher.

Hasn't anyone ever told you that when you point a finger there are three more pointing back at you?
 
Ken Harbart said:
That being said, if you guys want to keep up with your petty little off-topic back and forth, then this is not the place to do it. Either take it off site or drop it altogether.
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My apologies for my last post Ken, I didn't see your warning prior to hitting the submit button. Shall not happen again.
 
Slipmattic said:
http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89963

Enough said ^^^
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So, are you also willing to write off any number of other names - big and small - that have had IBD in their collection at some time in the past? Think hard about your answer, because some of the biggest and best known names in boas are on that list, as well as some well appreciated members here.
This isn't a defense of Allen, or an attack on anybody else...just pointing out that if the broad stroke is being used, it covers a lot.
 
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